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[Eurypterid]

CrazyKindBud wrote...

yea ofcourse i didnt mean HAVE to download. but like you said, they dangle it infront of you, INGAME, on the main story line. im sorry if there is a character in the game telling you about a quest and then half way thru the convo he drops the download this content option on you, thats NOT a full game in my opinion.

That has nothing to so with whether you have a 'full game' or not. You do have a full game, just like everyone else that picks up a copy. Your beef is with the implementation of the DLC advertising. That, I can sympathize with.

[Inarai]

Oops, double post.

Modifié par Inarai, 21 novembre 2009 - 11:56 .

[Toranilor]

pokemaughan wrote...

Toranilor wrote...

If this is an angry rant at why Bioware released DLC at game launch, I hypothesise that it was due to the fact that the dev team had finished bioware, and started making micro, overpriced DLC designed for quick profit immediatley (Being the super awesome and commited dev tem that they are) and by the time the producers/publishers or whomever got around to releasing DA:O two intsances of DLC were allready finished.

Fixed your error, there. 

Why thank you, error magician!

[CrazyKindBud]

all im saying is the fact that there is a char in the main game promoting an expansion makes it pretty freakin obviously that its a scam. its not like they patched that char in after they already shipped out thousands of copies. dont be nieve... anyway im done, figured others would be a little upset about this but i guess you all like having to pay more for what we should have gotten free.

[Eurypterid]

Haasth wrote...

So instead they should not promote something they made at all. And instead have it hidden somewhere on the internet where just a few people will find out and they in turn have to have knowledge of how to include it into the final game?

That's a bit of a straw man argument. The OP didn't indicate any such thing.

Whereas it will be beneficial for BioWare to promote it ingame, and beneficial for those that buy it because the addons are already placed in the game? 

For the record I was a staunch defender of the 'Wait and see hos this works before bashing it' postion when the outcry about in-game DLC vendors started on the DA:O boards. After seeing it for myself though, I don't really like it as an in-game option. I can see what people are complaining about with regards to that. This isn't to say they'd have to hide it on the internet. It would be pretty easy, I believe, to just have it show up on your Downloadable Content tab at hte start menu, with a full description attached. Easy to find, and not in your face like it feels in the game.

[mrBadim]

just wait till you will able to buy small add-ons for another 60$ in total - and consider it a full add-on.

dont cry - developers did a great job, and they definitely not going to work for free for another crying person.

[pokemaughan]

Toranilor wrote...

pokemaughan wrote...

Toranilor wrote...

If this is an angry rant at why Bioware released DLC at game launch, I hypothesise that it was due to the fact that the dev team had finished bioware, and started making micro, overpriced DLC designed for quick profit immediatley (Being the super awesome and commited dev tem that they are) and by the time the producers/publishers or whomever got around to releasing DA:O two intsances of DLC were allready finished.

Fixed your error, there. 

Why thank you, error magician!

Enchanting! 

[Eurypterid]

CrazyKindBud wrote...

all im saying is the fact that there is a char in the main game promoting an expansion makes it pretty freakin obviously that its a scam. its not like they patched that char in after they already shipped out thousands of copies. dont be nieve... anyway im done, figured others would be a little upset about this but i guess you all like having to pay more for what we should have gotten free.

What makes you say we should have gotten it free? Did you miss my post noting the Warden's Keep was intended from the outset to be for purchase?

[Mythgaard]

I don't mind DLC, just wish they were a bit more reasonably priced for the content, Shale and the Keep were both extremely short, and mostly pointless. Some new gears and a new companion. The storyline in the Keep at least was pretty interesting, but of course it didn't go anywhere, and after completion the Keep is not at any kind of base of operations. I just flat out don't really like Shale, or the "quest" to get him.



The next is 5 bucks for what will probably end up being less than an hour worth of play, and all combat (which isn't necessarily bad), but again, just seems like a "Buy Moar Gears" kind of thing.



3 bucks, tops. It isn't about not wanting to spend, it's about getting good value for what I do spend, and for 7 bucks, Warden's Keep left me with some serious buyer's remorse. That's the kind of memory that stays with a paying customer.

[Haasth]

CrazyKindBud wrote...

all im saying is the fact that there is a char in the main game promoting an expansion makes it pretty freakin obviously that its a scam. its not like they patched that char in after they already shipped out thousands of copies. dont be nieve... anyway im done, figured others would be a little upset about this but i guess you all like having to pay more for what we should have gotten free.

I find it very ironic you call us "nieve". (It is Naïve by the way). You obviously have no knowledge of game production. The game was FINISHED, DONE. Meaning everything they made after is wouldn't be part of the original game. Thus DLC.

Eurypterid wrote...

For the record I was a staunch defender
of the 'Wait and see hos this works before bashing it' postion when the
outcry about in-game DLC vendors started on the DA:O boards. After
seeing it for myself though, I don't really like it as an in-game
option. I can see what people are complaining about with regards to
that. This isn't to say they'd have to hide it on the internet. It
would be pretty easy, I believe, to just have it show up on your
Downloadable Content tab at hte start menu, with a full description
attached. Easy to find, and not in your face like it feels in the game.

Alright. Fair enough, they could have hidden it from in-game. Regardless it is not something people should make such a fuss about, if you ask me.

Modifié par Haasth, 22 novembre 2009 - 12:02 .

[Shannara13]

CrazyKindBud wrote...

bought this game thinking it would be the full game but no. the second i log it offers me downloadable content? there are missions in the main story line you cant do without paying another $10. I knew EA was a lame ass company but i didnt think Bioware would be as well. Im extremely diapointed in these shiesty policies...

[Edit] Careful with the language. You still have to follow the Terms of Service.

Because clearly Bioware should make us DLC for free, after all they don't really need to be payed for thier work.

[CrazyKindBud]

im not trying to bash the developers... god knows i love the game in all its glory. im just bashing their marketing tactics and corparate shananigans.

[DJoker35]

CrazyKindBud wrote...

bought this game thinking it would be the full game but no. the second i log it offers me downloadable content? there are missions in the main story line you cant do without paying another $10. I knew EA was a lame ass company but i didnt think Bioware would be as well. Im extremely diapointed in these shiesty policies...

[Edit] Careful with the language. You still have to follow the Terms of Service.

Here's the thing. You don't HAVE to download anything. You don't HAVE to pay for anything. DLC is nothing but optional content for a game that is complete in the first place If you'd like to add more an already full game experience, then great. If you don't, and just wish to play the game as is, in it's full, nothing-else-needed form, then don't dowload. It's really just that simple. DLC isn't a game patch, it's simply optional unrequired add-ons to the full game that you have a choice to use or not. If you don't want it, then don't buy it.

As far as the in camp "seller", I agree that's a bit of a commercial in the middle of my game, and I wish they hadn't done that.

Modifié par DJoker35, 22 novembre 2009 - 12:09 .

[Torias]

CrazyKindBud wrote...

im not trying to bash the developers... god knows i love the game in all its glory. im just bashing their marketing tactics and corparate shananigans.

it's actually a tactic for them to create more gameplay.

they have to justify every hour they spend doing something.

they built dragon age.

they wanted to build more dragon age, but needed additional revenue to justify the additional investment of personpower.

so they came up with a business plan of post-release content creation, where they can spend additional time and money coming up with new content, and then sell that content to people.

this content could not exist without the business plan of selling it.

if they can't sell it, they can't create it.

[Troispoint]

The fact and the matter is: They could had putted that DLC in the game to begin with, but they didn't because they wanted to make a quick buck out of this. So yes this revolting and insulting.

[Torias]

Troispoint wrote...

The fact and the matter is: They could had putted that DLC in the game to begin with, but they didn't because they wanted to make a quick buck out of this. So yes this revolting and insulting.

nope, that is factually incorrect.

[Mithrildream]

Welcome to EA games =D

[DJoker35]

Troispoint wrote...

The fact and the matter is: They could had putted that DLC in the game to begin with, but they didn't because they wanted to make a quick buck out of this. So yes this revolting and insulting.

Then don't buy it. And if you think that the game as is without it isn't worth what you already paid for it, well then, that's something different.

[marlowwe]

Torias wrote...

Troispoint wrote...

The fact and the matter is: They could had putted that DLC in the game to begin with, but they didn't because they wanted to make a quick buck out of this. So yes this revolting and insulting.

nope, that is factually incorrect.

Proof?

[pokemaughan]

Mithrildream wrote...

Welcome to EA games =D

TRUTH

Modifié par pokemaughan, 22 novembre 2009 - 12:14 .

[Arsaidh]

CrazyKindBud wrote...

bought this game thinking it would be the full game but no. the second i log it offers me downloadable content? there are missions in the main story line you cant do without paying another $10. I knew EA was a lame ass company but i didnt think Bioware would be as well. Im extremely diapointed in these shiesty policies...

You don't think 80+ hours is a "full game"?

Warden's Keep is fun, but I dispute your assertion that it's "in the main story line."

[marlowwe]

eisberg77 wrote...

Troispoint wrote...

The fact and the matter is: They could had putted that DLC in the game to begin with, but they didn't because they wanted to make a quick buck out of this. So yes this revolting and insulting.

And another person who knows nothing about the development of this game.  Your "Fact of the matter" is in fact false.

You fanboys keep saying that but neither you nor Bioware has stated exactly WHY they brought the DLC model in.