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[AnAccountWithNoName]

In 2186 CE a bad ass soldier was sent to earth by a
military court for a charge he did not commit. This man promptly
escaped from a maximum-security stockade to the Los Angeles underground.
Today, still wanted by the Alliance and Batarians, he survives the soldiers of
fortune. If you have a problem...if no one else can help...and if you
can find him...maybe you can hire...The SHEPARD TEAM

*cue that music*

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Ok im sure my Shepard will not try to escape from being charged, but you get the point im trying to say.  My shepard is being charged for something he never did.

Perhaps a shepard from another reality did it, or maybe someone impersonated my shepard did it, but im SURE my Shepard didn't do the act.

I don't like the idea of optional DLC being forced upon my canon walkthrough, even though i didn't buy it.

At least with the other DLC, there events are not forced upon me, and are therefore not canon (i.e if i don't buy LOTSB, in my canon, my shepard never helped Liara take down the shadow broker).

What do you people think about what im trying to say? 

Should there be a different option at the beginning of ME3 for those who didn't buy arrival?  Perhaps in the canon of those who didn't have their shepard play Arrival, someone else played a role in "Arrival" and caused the death of 300,000 batarians, but not you (im sure if bioware tried hard enough they could create a story that stoped the Reapers from arriving in "Arrival" but without Shepard).

What do you think?



Compare to what im trying to say here to this:

Bioware decides to make a new love interst for Shepard off screen, who Shepard fell in love with and ditches
his/her previous ME2 love interest.  So when ME3 comes around, your Shepard has a new love, which all happened off screen, and which you had no choice over.

So if that is not acceptable to ME fans, why is killing 300,000 civilians off screen, without a choice (if you didn't play arrrival) OK then?

Modifié par AnAccountWithNoName, 08 septembre 2011 - 07:03 .

[Omega4RelayResident]

ME3 assumes all Shepards did the DLC's otherwise there would be a huge disparity in game consequences.... too much info to program into one game.... also how else would you be able to call Shep back from his space crusade to stop the Reapers

A trilal is the only answer

[lazuli]

I survived the Thresher Maw attack on Akuze? I don't remember that.

or

I repelled a batarian assault on Elysium?  I don't remember that.

or

I sent 75% of my troops to certain death on Torfan?  I don't remember that.

Modifié par lazuli, 08 septembre 2011 - 05:30 .

[AdmiralCheez]

Skyllian Blitz? What Blitz? I didn't play that bit...

[ADLegend21]

MY Character was born?! I wasn't there to see that.....

[Alpha-Centuri]

aww I wanted to be witty and be a jerk too. Ya'll beat me to it!

[Zakatak757]

Getting a feral Varren pregnant? I don't remember that...

[mybudgee]

C'mon folks think about it. Its the perfect way to make sure there's a ubiquitous enemy no matter which alliances you choose. The story requires a new "geth" type character, who will REALLY hate shep no matter what.(Not like the Batarians were chums with him anyway)

[AnAccountWithNoName]

lazuli wrote...

I survived the Thresher Maw attack on Akuze? I don't remember that.

or

I repelled a batarian assault on Elysium?  I don't remember that.

or

I sent 75% of my troops to certain death on Torfan?  I don't remember that.

Actually my character does remember that.  Because i chose certain things for my Shepard's backstory.

When i say "I don't remember that", i don't mean from my perspective, but from the in-universe perspective of my shepard.

[AdmiralCheez]

AnAccountWithNoName wrote...

Actually my character does remember that.  Because i chose certain things for my Shepard's backstory.

When i say "I don't remember that", i don't mean from my perspective, but from the in-universe perspective of my shepard.

#roleplayingtoohard

[AnAccountWithNoName]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

AnAccountWithNoName wrote...

Actually my character does remember that.  Because i chose certain things for my Shepard's backstory.

When i say "I don't remember that", i don't mean from my perspective, but from the in-universe perspective of my shepard.

#roleplayingtoohard

Actually, compared to many others, im not that big of a role player.  Im just saying, i don't think something so drastic like killing 300,000 batarians, should be forced upon our Shepards.

[ThePwener]

DLC is mandatory for all ex-N7 marines who have undergone spectre status and subsequently died and brought back by a human supremacist organization named after a mythological beast.

[CANON DLC IS CANON]

[AdmiralCheez]

AnAccountWithNoName wrote...

Actually, compared to many others, im not that big of a role player.  Im just saying, i don't think something so drastic like killing 300,000 batarians, should be forced upon our Shepards.

What, like being made a Spectre and stopping Saren?  That was kind of forced on people who didn't play ME1.

[ThePwener]

Zakatak757 wrote...

Getting a feral Varren pregnant? I don't remember that...

So the scale itch wasn't Kelly.....

[Alpha-Centuri]

Do you remember what happened in the month between ME1 or Me2? The narrative tells you: you were searching for Geth. You didn't play it, but you were told it. This is similar, but a *little* more important. If you don't want to play Arrival, no biggie. You won't play what happens between Me2 and ME3, but you will be told it.

To clarify, Bioware is allowing you to play the bridge with Arrival. You don't have to. It would be like if Bioware allowed you to play the Geth search missions before ME2.

edit: I see your comment about forced play

You have to realize that everything can't be a choice. You have to confront Saren, you have to DIE to start ME2, you have to go on the SM. You have to kill thousands of mooks to complete the two games. When you put it in that context, killing 300k people by pressing a button is par for the course.

Modifié par Alpha-Centuri, 08 septembre 2011 - 05:47 .

[Morroian]

Do we really need to go through this AGAIN.

[ThePwener]

Alpha-Centuri wrote...

It would be like if Bioware allowed you to play the Geth search missions before ME2.

Oh goodie, being stuck on a dim lighted ship for 3 weeks with a bunch of people who just complain how "we haven't found any Geth".

Thanks BW!

[Alpha-Centuri]

ThePwener wrote...

Alpha-Centuri wrote...

It would be like if Bioware allowed you to play the Geth search missions before ME2.

Oh goodie, being stuck on a dim lighted ship for 3 weeks with a bunch of people who just complain how "we haven't found any Geth".

Thanks BW!

I admit, I'd rather hear chalk squeeks on the blackboard. But the analogy holds

[ThePwener]

Morroian wrote...

Do we really need to go through this AGAIN.

What is there to do around here? we can only talk/complain about lack of RPG elements until we hit the keyboard with our faces.

[Omega4RelayResident]

Just go and download Arrival... why not have the fun of commiting the crime if you are going to get charged with the consequences anyway...

Besides... I did try to warn the Batarians... try being the key word there

[Corwyn]

It seems you can pretty much assume that the DLCs are cannon. The shadow broker is now Liara, Shep killed those batarians and Thane is now rocking some sweet shades.

They aren't forcing any of the choices in the DLC on you because the DLC had no choice the paragon option was to try warn the batarians the renegade one was to shrug but either way you had to destroy the relay to give everybody time.

[didymos1120]

Future Guy wrote...

I contracted some sort of space herpes. I don't recall how I got that.

Space herpes?

[AtreiyaN7]

Too bad? Sometimes we get stuck with decisions we haven't personally had a hand in in games. That being said, I remember those Batarians going kaboom, and I don't feel bad about it at all (my Shepard tried to warn them...oh well).

[Omega4RelayResident]

Macgarnickle wrote...

It seems you can pretty much assume that the DLCs are cannon. The shadow broker is now Liara, Shep killed those batarians and Thane is now rocking some sweet shades.

They aren't forcing any of the choices in the DLC on you because the DLC had no choice the paragon option was to try warn the batarians the renegade one was to shrug but either way you had to destroy the relay to give everybody time.

Basically if you dont do this... your ME3 game purchase will be an empty box with a note from BioWare that states "Thanks for the $$.... but the Reapers won."

Get the picture yet?