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Liara's transition from videogame character to statue has left her a little more curvaceous than before.
BioWare is once again looking for fan feedback on one of the women of Mass Effect.
It's not FemShep this time though, it's the Asari scientist Liara
T'Soni. BioWare has teamed up with the Japanese company Kotobukiya to
create a "bishoujo"-style Liara statue, and wants to know what fans
think of the prototype.





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"Bishoujo" is a type of character design seen in anime and manga and
refers to "young and pretty" girls. As you can see from the images,
the bishoujo Liara is quite different from the Liara that appears in the
game. The comments on the Mass Effect Facebook
page are overwhelmingly negative, with most saying that it strays too
far from Liara's established character. Nearly three and a half thousand
people have clicked "like" on the album though, so the the overall
opinion would seem to be mixed.
I'm hoping that BioWare and Kotobukiya go back to the drawing board
with this one. There's nothing wrong with the design itself per se.
Sure it's cheesecake and there's almost no way we're going to see
some sexed up version of Garrus or Thane or whoever to balance the
scales out, but it's certainly not the first large-chested, "sexy" Asari
we've seen. The problem is that this is supposed to be a specific Asari, and while it's a well made statue, it doesn't look like Liara, and more importantly, it doesn't feel like Liara.

http://www.escapistm...s-Effect-Statue


They want my take? No offence intended but it's nasty and doesn't even mildly resemble T'Soni, an Asari perhaps, but T'soni? It just looks like some Asari stole her outfit and decided to bunch her breasts up as much as possible, sorry Bioware... no dice from me.

Modifié par gogman25, 08 septembre 2011 - 05:18 .


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I've said the same on facebook. It doesn't even remotely resemble Liara. To me it looks like some random asari from the mass effect universe. Frankly it's a horrible statue and not worth the money buying it. Also the bust size is wrong for Liara too.

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There is an existing topic dood

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Sajuro wrote...

There is an existing topic dood


Ah, sorry, didn't find it! Ignore my thread then.

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This guy makes "anime'd" renditions of characters. Anime females are usually oversexualized (oversized breasts, skimpy/revealing clothing, etc. etc.)

This isn't anything out of the ordinary.

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Her boobs are bigger than her head.

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I like how people explain what the word Bishoujo means as if it were an answer to the criticisms. I've seen that on Kotaku and here as well.

I do a type of art called "cagar en una lata". That refers to "crap in a tin can". If someone does not like my art, I ignore their arguments and immediately accuse them of not understanding the culture this art comes from and of being racist against people who caga en una lata.

Modifié par Nyoka, 08 septembre 2011 - 03:48 .


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really in the end it doesn't matter that's the type of the Artist that Bioware hired to make the figure. All his figures and art work follow that style from his Marvel collections to the Star Wars(and he does damn good work) It his rendition - will they go back the drawing board most likely but the most we are going to get is a different pose at best.

Modifié par nitefyre410, 08 septembre 2011 - 03:50 .


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Nyoka wrote...

I like how people explain what the word Bishoujo means as if it were an answer to the criticisms.

It actually does partially. Anime style IS different than ME realistic style, this is just a fact.

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I am not a big fan of anime/manga personally. As such, I won't be buying this statue. I suggest other people who don't like it also not buy it. This also works for foods you don't like to eat or clothes you don't like to wear. This may sound like madness, but you are not forced to buy things you don't like.

For those who do like the anime/manga style, I think thsi is a very cool statue. As I said, it isn't for me, but I know there will be people out there who'll snap this up when it is available. I like that the ME team is thinking "outside the box" and looking at merchandise that is different. Hopefully there'll be other statues, toys, trinkets, etc that come out which fans are not expecting. :)




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IsaacShep wrote...

It actually does partially. Anime style IS different than ME realistic style, this is just a fact.

No, it doesn't.

- That statue is too sexualized.
- But that's what this style is about. They always sexualize everything.
- That's very fine. And the statue (as a statue, not as an example of some style) is still too sexualized. Besides she's got a baby face.
- Yeah that style is about sexualizing children actually. That's pretty much what they do.
- Okay. Thanks for saying I'm right.
- No I didn't--
- Didn't you just say that style sexualizes the body and makes baby faces?
- Well yes, but--
- Alright then.

The fact that it's supposed to be overly sexualized and that she's supposed to have the face of a child is actually an acknowledgment of the criticism, not an answer.

Modifié par Nyoka, 08 septembre 2011 - 04:16 .


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I'd have no real objection to the thing (beyond the creepy child's face attached to woman's body thing.. but whatever) if it was just labeled "Asari" as opposed to "Liara"... but other than the uniform, it has no resemblance to Liara whatsoever.... that's what bothers me.

It's like taking a G.I. action figure, writing "N7" on its chest and saying: "This is Commander Shepard".

Modifié par Hathur, 08 septembre 2011 - 04:02 .


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Far as I am concerned its a piece of garbage and I wouldn't give you 2 cents for it. I for one will not buy it.

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I certainly won't be buying it, but my main problem is that because of this, we're less likely to get a decent representation of Liara in model form. When it comes to do more merch, they'll say "oh well we've already got a Liara one, let's do someone else."

It'd be sad if the only model/toy/figure/whatever with her is this abomination.

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Chris Priestly wrote...

I am not a big fan of anime/manga personally. As such, I won't be buying this statue. I suggest other people who don't like it also not buy it. This also works for foods you don't like to eat or clothes you don't like to wear. This may sound like madness, but you are not forced to buy things you don't like.

For those who do like the anime/manga style, I think thsi is a very cool statue. As I said, it isn't for me, but I know there will be people out there who'll snap this up when it is available. I like that the ME team is thinking "outside the box" and looking at merchandise that is different. Hopefully there'll be other statues, toys, trinkets, etc that come out which fans are not expecting. :)




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Ye anime is so exotic i'd of never seen this coming. I mean it's not like there's a whole anime style mass effect feature movie coming out either. Really came out of left field that one. It's nice to see bioware has innovative gameplay design as well as marketing stratergies. I mean who else would of come up with grenades and on rail-shooter sections and even ladders? You guys are really crazy. 

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Isn't Liara equivalent to a human in her late teens to early 20's so were looking about an age range between 18- 22. She is not going look like a 40 year older women or look like Samara who is on the other side of the spectrum. If you look at the face in context with the rest of his other figurine work especially from Marvel and DC where most of the character are eternally in the mid to late 20's some early thirties, its consent.  


Oh  and here  comes the BSN   "Outrage" well this thread is done  

Modifié par nitefyre410, 08 septembre 2011 - 04:11 .


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Edit: Post removed. :devil:

Edit: NO U!

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As an Otaku, i don't care. As a Mass Effect fan, i still don't care.
The figure just doesn't look that good.

It's by Kotobukiya that's the style they use. It's look and the reaction to an anime statue should've been obvious.

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Chris Priestly wrote...

...I know there will be people out there who'll snap this up when it is available. I like that the ME team is thinking "outside the box" and looking at merchandise that is different. Hopefully there'll be other statues, toys, trinkets, etc that come out which fans are not expecting. :)


I really do like the fact Bioware and marketing are thinking outside the box as you say Chris. I know people have been vocal in the dislike for the figure, but I personally will be snapping it up as soon as pre-orders are announced.  I hope similar products are just as inventive and unique.   I know not all of it will be to my taste but it certainly will be for others.  Much like this figure is showing now.


Anyway as a active customer in the Bioware Store all I can say is I am pleased you guys are diversifying more and im looking forward to what else you come up with.

B)

Modifié par Captain Crash, 08 septembre 2011 - 04:22 .


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Chris Priestly wrote...

I am not a big fan of anime/manga personally. As such, I won't be buying this statue. I suggest other people who don't like it also not buy it. This also works for foods you don't like to eat or clothes you don't like to wear. This may sound like madness, but you are not forced to buy things you don't like.

For those who do like the anime/manga style, I think thsi is a very cool statue. As I said, it isn't for me, but I know there will be people out there who'll snap this up when it is available. I like that the ME team is thinking "outside the box" and looking at merchandise that is different. Hopefully there'll be other statues, toys, trinkets, etc that come out which fans are not expecting. :)


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You best be gettin' outta here wit that logic n' fancy talk.

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Chris Priestly wrote...

I am not a big fan of anime/manga personally. As such, I won't be buying this statue. I suggest other people who don't like it also not buy it. This also works for foods you don't like to eat or clothes you don't like to wear. This may sound like madness, but you are not forced to buy things you don't like.

For those who do like the anime/manga style, I think thsi is a very cool statue. As I said, it isn't for me, but I know there will be people out there who'll snap this up when it is available. I like that the ME team is thinking "outside the box" and looking at merchandise that is different. Hopefully there'll be other statues, toys, trinkets, etc that come out which fans are not expecting. :)




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The problem people have with this Chris is it looks nothing like Liara. No freckles,diffrent face, oversexulised body with the only thing Liara is the lab suit. If you guys just said it was an asari the reaction would be alot diffrent.

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nitefyre410 wrote...

Isn't Liara equivalent to a human in her late teens to early 20's so were looking about an age range between 18- 22. She is not going look like a 40 year older women or look like Samara who is on the other side of the spectrum. If you look at the face in context with the rest of his other figurine work especially from Marvel and DC where most of the character are eternally in the mid to late 20's some early thirties, its consent.  


Oh  and here  comes the BSN   "Outrage" well this thread is done  

The reason why there is an outrage is because it looks nothing like Liara minus the armour. It just looks lke some random young asari with hgue boobies.

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I'm sure the reaction would be the same regardless of what the statue was labelled as.. this is the BSN after all and people are always looking for new excuses to complain and blame somebody for their personal unhappiness.

Isn't there already a thread on this topic anyway?

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Chris Priestly wrote...

I am not a big fan of anime/manga personally. As such, I won't be buying this statue. I suggest other people who don't like it also not buy it. This also works for foods you don't like to eat or clothes you don't like to wear. This may sound like madness, but you are not forced to buy things you don't like.

For those who do like the anime/manga style, I think thsi is a very cool statue. As I said, it isn't for me, but I know there will be people out there who'll snap this up when it is available. I like that the ME team is thinking "outside the box" and looking at merchandise that is different. Hopefully there'll be other statues, toys, trinkets, etc that come out which fans are not expecting. :)




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Very true, we don't like we don't buy it after the sales account is done we will see if this "outside the box" thinking was a success or not.

Since is a thing out of the ME universe because it doesn't afect the story the only people afcted by it are the ones that decide to buy the figure I don't see the point in rebel against it.

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Mr.House wrote...
The problem people have with this Chris is it looks nothing like Liara. No freckles,diffrent face, oversexulised body with the only thing Liara is the lab suit. If you guys just said it was an asari the reaction would be alot diffrent.


This, pretty much. I have no problem with anime-style merch, and mixing it up a bit is always good, but this thing just doesn't look like the character it's supposed to be.

Why would I want to buy a model of my favourite character when it doesn't actually look like my favourite character?