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T764 wrote...
Go read the whole thread then come back and comment.


You know, I was trying to be kind.  But honestly, if you want me to actually UNDERSTAND your post, you'll have to try a bit harder regarding grammar and puctuation.  I was only commenting on what I thought you were saying, since your post barely made sense to begin with.

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XFemShepX wrote...

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Those people who are pissed about this figurine are little to soft skinned. Seriously I can understand why you would dislike it but get pissed over it is pointless since you don't have to buy it and it isn't how Liara is going to look like in the game.


That's a solid point, and I'll give you that.  However, the DEVS were the one that posted this figure online (I believe facebook, actually) and asked everyone what they thought of it.  The conversation just happened to spill over here, since these are their boards.  I don't think you should take such personal offense to such an overwhelming opinion.  I am a HUGE Kaidan fan, and I've read a ton about how people hate him, nuked him, etc.  It's people's opinions, and the developers specifically asked for them.  So here they are.  Some are maybe not in the most constructive manner, but it is what it is--that's the internet, unfortunately.

My opinion is still that it looks like a creepy, oversexualized child with a gun and huge ****** that don't belong.


I'm not taking offense. I'm wondering why would take offense because of the figure. I don't like the figure either but I won't buy it.


People might take offense because anything with "Mass Effect" on it reflects on the rest of Mass Effect.

I mean, can't you just see the sensational titles?

"Mass Effect series aims to attract pedophiles with baby-face, overdeveloped figurine."
It wouldn't be true, but tell me, if that was the first thing someone saw about Mass Effect, would it not affect any and all thought about Mass Effect?

"Mass Effect 3 is coming out? What's that? Oh, I remember that figure. Huge boobs and a child's face. Kinda weird. If that's what the figure's like, I wouldn't be surprised if the game is the same. I'll pass."

That's a conceivable thought pattern.

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What's hard to understand about "Go read the whole thread then come back and comment"?
You failed to understand/comprehend my post, i elaborated with quotes.
You seemed to be arguing from a position of ignorance, i suggested a way to fix that.

Oh and i'd like to add that i'm dyslexic and have always struggled with grammer and punctuation, but thanks for your understanding. Also compared to many native English speakers on the BSN i'm not doing to bad.

So "go cry me a freaking river" as you so eloquently put it.

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People might take offense because anything with "Mass Effect" on it reflects on the rest of Mass Effect.

I mean, can't you just see the sensational titles?

"Mass Effect series aims to attract pedophiles with baby-face, overdeveloped figurine."
It wouldn't be true, but tell me, if that was the first thing someone saw about Mass Effect, would it not affect any and all thought about Mass Effect?

"Mass Effect 3 is coming out? What's that? Oh, I remember that figure. Huge boobs and a child's face. Kinda weird. If that's what the figure's like, I wouldn't be surprised if the game is the same. I'll pass."

That's a conceivable thought pattern.


Considering what Fox news attempted to do failed I'm not too worried.

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It's creepy looking.

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I still don't see how it would make anyone feel like a pedo. The statue isn't the highest quality, but she doesn't look like a child to me.

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1136342t54 wrote...


Considering what Fox news attempted to do failed I'm not too worried.


Failed?

Despite claims to the contrary Bioware toned down the sex scenes in ME2 out of fear of generating more controversy. They were tamed by Fox News.

The irony is that Samara's cleavage and the multiple close up shots of Miranda's backside in ME2 were far more gratuitous than the brief nudity in ME1.

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Han Shot First wrote...

Failed?

Despite claims to the contrary Bioware toned down the sex scenes in ME2 out of fear of generating more controversy. They were tamed by Fox News.

The irony is that Samara's cleavage and the multiple close up shots of Miranda's backside in ME2 were far more gratuitous than the brief nudity in ME1.


You are assuming that was Fox news intention. They wanted to basically brand ME as a game mostly about sex and in reality it wasn't. People were intelligent enough to figure that out and Fox news was basically shown as idiotic (again). They failed.

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Gotta love America - Blow a mans brains out, murder, maim, step on the back of you fellow man... No problem.... So some breast or cleavage and its a crime against humanity... its Stupid beyond words.

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Gotta love America - Blow a mans brains out, murder, maim, step on the back of you fellow man... No problem.... So some breast or cleavage and its a crime against humanity... its Stupid beyond words.


Gotta love people who randomly hate on countries/cultures, because they disagree.

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T764 wrote...

What's hard to understand about "Go read the whole thread then come back and comment"?
You failed to understand/comprehend my post, i elaborated with quotes.
You seemed to be arguing from a position of ignorance, i suggested a way to fix that.

Oh and i'd like to add that i'm dyslexic and have always struggled with grammer and punctuation, but thanks for your understanding. Also compared to many native English speakers on the BSN i'm not doing to bad.

So "go cry me a freaking river" as you so eloquently put it.


..... <_<

How am I supposed to have understanding about your dyslexia if I didn't even know about it?  You are *seriously* a soft and sensitive person, buddy.  Either that, or very young.  Both of which lead me to the conclusion that I'm no longer going to talk to you, because you're having trouble maintaining this conversation in a mature manner.  As such, I'm going to ignore all your insults.

And ironically, my older brother (he's 37) is dyslexic, and spent a lot of his younger years at school in the mobile unit working it out.  He has no issues with grammar and punctuation.  I hope you share his good fortune someday.

Let's try to keep this Mass Effect related, instead of turning it into some personal crap I don't even care to read.  And I'm sure everyone else doesn't, either.
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Back to the conversation--I don't even remember anyone on Fox News apologizing for the interview or the way they tried to portray Mass Effect.  I know the one author they had on made a public apology later, but did Fox ever apologize or admit the obvious error in judgement?

It's a shame really, because I'd like to see MORE romance scenes like the sex scene out of ME1.  It was artistic, mature and well done.  I think the shots of Miranda's rear were more gratuitous than the ME1 sex scene.  

The statue does not represent the game's character, which will be oblivious to those that don't play the ME.  The real problem is it's childlike appearance.  This is the same character Fox made a stink about before with the "lesbian" scenes, and now it looks like a child?  Do we really want to make those equations...?  Because they're dirty and ugly assumptions.

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That's not Liara...that's an Asari porn star.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Gotta love America - Blow a mans brains out, murder, maim, step on the back of you fellow man... No problem.... So some breast or cleavage and its a crime against humanity... its Stupid beyond words.


Gotta love people who randomly hate on countries/cultures, because they disagree.

 

Considering  the fact I am USA citizen... Yeah... my point being that  its Backwards... that Amount of  voilence one sees on TV but  there is more outrage of a womans naked body...  makes  no sense...  the two are not equal. Its not hating - its common  sense. 

And it ties in the this because I was commenting On Coversation about Fox news report - about the sex scene in ME 1 ... 

Modifié par nitefyre410, 10 septembre 2011 - 12:21 .


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nitefyre410 wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Gotta love America - Blow a mans brains out, murder, maim, step on the back of you fellow man... No problem.... So some breast or cleavage and its a crime against humanity... its Stupid beyond words.


Gotta love people who randomly hate on countries/cultures, because they disagree.

 

Considering  the fact I am USA citizen... Yeah... my point being that  its Backwards... that Amount of  voilence one sees on TV but  there is more outrage of a womans naked body...  makes  no sense...  the two are not equal. Its not hating - its common  sense. 




I see. Hard to tell that from your initial post.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Gotta love America - Blow a mans brains out, murder, maim, step on the back of you fellow man... No problem.... So some breast or cleavage and its a crime against humanity... its Stupid beyond words.


Gotta love people who randomly hate on countries/cultures, because they disagree.

 

Considering  the fact I am USA citizen... Yeah... my point being that  its Backwards... that Amount of  voilence one sees on TV but  there is more outrage of a womans naked body...  makes  no sense...  the two are not equal. Its not hating - its common  sense. 




I see. Hard to tell that from your initial post.

 


No body - No foul 

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Everything is okay but the face doesn't look like her face looks odd

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starwarschewy wrote...

Everything is okay but the face doesn't look like her face looks odd

 

Liara has always looked odd  imo, some thing about her face  always seemed off 


Yeah I said it -  any flames will be used to make a delicous and savory BBQ  

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I am not a big fan of anime/manga personally. As such, I won't be buying this statue. I suggest other people who don't like it also not buy it. <snip>

 

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Since is a thing out of the ME universe because it doesn't afect the story the only people afcted by it are the ones that decide to buy the figure I don't see the point in rebel against it.


That's usually a good argument, but we were specifically asked to give feedback on this statue.
They shouldn't ask for feedback if their response to negative feedback will be "Well it's not like you have to buy it if you don't like it GEEZ."

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nitefyre410 wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Gotta love America - Blow a mans brains out, murder, maim, step on the back of you fellow man... No problem.... So some breast or cleavage and its a crime against humanity... its Stupid beyond words.


Gotta love people who randomly hate on countries/cultures, because they disagree.

 

Considering  the fact I am USA citizen... Yeah... my point being that  its Backwards... that Amount of  voilence one sees on TV but  there is more outrage of a womans naked body...  makes  no sense...  the two are not equal. Its not hating - its common  sense. 

And it ties in the this because I was commenting On Coversation about Fox news report - about the sex scene in ME 1 ... 




It is not common sense, it is your personal sense.  Morality valuations have nothing to do with common sense.  

Anyways.  While I like manga/anime I rarely like it when a western image is mangaized.  They look too different and I find the images odd.  I would not want to see a western catroon style of some of my favorite animes for similar reasons.  A western style One Piece would look freaking lame. 

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Bioware likely needs to approve the prototype before production begins. I say, redo the face to look more like Liara, and call it a day. This is the whole point of a prototype. Any changes need to be mentioned now or forever hold your peace.

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SandSanta wrote...

LGTX wrote...

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Why complain about something endlessly that you dislike? Why not just state that you dislike this style and move on?
I have noticed a large number of people on this forum dislike anime, yet you simply can't just say "not my thing" and move on? You have to try and make this to be some great evil? I do believe on page one Chris said all that has to be said.

Personally I would concider buying it, besides I collect a number of high-end PVC anime statues and they rarely come out identical to the concept design.


Maybe they want to buy a statue but they don't want feel like indulging in a 16 year-old's fantasy.


If you want another statue, this thread is not the right place to ask for it. If you don't want this one, don't buy it.


Since its a thread complaining about the current figurine, I think its a legitimate place to demand a new one that isn't geared for people who haven't interacted with real women.


Just to bring this up again. Bioware released the pcitures asking for feedback. People like LGTX should keep in mind that these complaints are just that Feedback, Not all feedback is positive and the simple answer if you don't like it don't buy it is not an appropriate way to respond to feedback that you, or the company asked for. You deal with the feedback use it to improve the product and hopefully pull in a bigger market.

Releasing the pics as a tease is one thing that's saying "Oh look at this product we're releasing anyone want it?" But releasing this with "Hey we have this statue can we get some feedback before it's painted" Is Asking for this thread and others.

I don't understand what is so hard to get about this fact. Can we drop the childish "If you don't like it don't buy it" line in a thread that's giving legitimate Feedback made by the community the statue is supposed to sell too? pleasefor the sake of all feedback everywhere can people like LGTX drop the "Don't Like Don't Buy" Crusade as that is totally disregarding all negative feedback about the product and only condoning the positive responses.

Negative responses are Feedback too.

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I'm not opposed to anime-style Liara, but I am opposed to her having boobs so big you could use them as sandbags in a firefight. Wait, on second thought, that sounds useful...

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I don't like the concept, makes it look like Liara has a huge vagina, yuck :( !

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Dexi wrote...

I don't like the concept, makes it look like Liara has a huge vagina, yuck :( !


Well, that was a rather unexpected and baffling objection.

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Ahglock wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Gotta love America - Blow a mans brains out, murder, maim, step on the back of you fellow man... No problem.... So some breast or cleavage and its a crime against humanity... its Stupid beyond words.


Gotta love people who randomly hate on countries/cultures, because they disagree.

 

Considering  the fact I am USA citizen... Yeah... my point being that  its Backwards... that Amount of  voilence one sees on TV but  there is more outrage of a womans naked body...  makes  no sense...  the two are not equal. Its not hating - its common  sense. 

And it ties in the this because I was commenting On Coversation about Fox news report - about the sex scene in ME 1 ... 




It is not common sense, it is your personal sense.  Morality valuations have nothing to do with common sense.  


just a side note here this is something in the American culture. We've always ALWAYS condoned/portrayed violence in media while hiding the keepign the sex away to some extent. There is no tradition nor has there been on maintaining a control on violent media. It's more a cultural taboo to flaunt sex around than to stab a man here that's it deal with it. This is what we are as a culture that's all there is sex here is personal shoudln't be out everywhere while killing is just something we have become used to and always were used to. if we want to talk backwards there are plenty of other cultures to evaluate. Even if you think it's stupid it doesn't change that that is part of our culture. (we also tend to be more buisy and tense than other western nations also to some degree more private yet open at the same time in a weird paradoxical way)