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What is it you people don't get? If you don't like it, don't buy it. Simple as that.

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Looks like Liara got herself a little nip and tuck. 'Bout damned time.

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I really do like the fact Bioware and marketing are thinking outside the box as you say Chris. I know people have been vocal in the dislike for the figure, but I personally will be snapping it up as soon as pre-orders are announced.  I hope similar products are just as inventive and unique.   I know not all of it will be to my taste but it certainly will be for others.  Much like this figure is showing now.


Anyway as a active customer in the Bioware Store all I can say is I am pleased you guys are diversifying more and im looking forward to what else you come up with.

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You have written the same basic post several times on the forums now and I'm curious. All your messages on this are about how it is different and unique and diverse and outside the box and all that. You never address the fact that Liara is supposed to be the Shadow Broker and a freaking powerful biotic but it is portrayed as a spine-curving, underaged yet-another-hawt-babe in a doctor costume. The fact that Liara never makes that pose and never has that expression (not to mention that's simply not her face at all). Is the childlike face attractive enough to override the disappointing fact that this statue shows a completely different person? (a less interesting person in my opinion, because there are a million hawt babes already, but only one Shadow Broker). Is it that you recognize Liara in that statue because what you mostly see in Liara when you play LotSB is her boobs?

What's your opinion about the criticisms made on blogs and other places about this? Do you consider them unfounded or you like the statue despite them?

Modifié par Nyoka, 08 septembre 2011 - 04:44 .


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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

What is it you people don't get? If you don't like it, don't buy it. Simple as that.

If you don't like the contents of this thread, then don't enter it.

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I'm familiar with Kotobukiya's stuff, a friend of mine has a whole collection of these Bishoujo statuettes...and I can't say this is their best work. Forget the fact that the face is a baby-like face vs. just a young woman type face, we can throw that issue out the window. Her forehead looks much too large, and I can't even notice her face is there with that chest. Not opposed to the general look and pose of the figure, or the fact that the proportions are supposed to be extra curvy, but the fact that the proportions of her body and head/face detract from the overall look of the figure as it stands.

I support the idea they've got here, I was even excited to see the prototype, but I was rather disappointed with the result. Just my 0.02.

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Mr.House wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

What is it you people don't get? If you don't like it, don't buy it. Simple as that.

If you don't like the contents of this thread, then don't enter it.


Nice comeback.


You mad?:devil:

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For what it's worth, we haven't seen the finished product yet. They did want to take in some feedback, right?

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The only thing "wrong" with it is the Gerber Baby face.

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That figure is as much Liara as this figure is Commander Shepard.

Sticking something that looks like an Asari in a uniform that looks like Liara's does not make it a "Liara" figurine.... just as me typing "N7" on this GI Joe doll doesn't make it a Shepard doll.

Modifié par Hathur, 08 septembre 2011 - 04:46 .


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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

What is it you people don't get? If you don't like it, don't buy it. Simple as that.


Sorry but could you quote the bit where people said "i really hate this statue that's why i'm going to go out and buy 5 of them" because i must of missed it. Rest assured those of us who don't like it wont be buying it. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be giving an opinion on it. Bioware/ea/whoever is welcome to ignore our critical feedback and i'm sure they will if these figurines sell well. 

I don't know why people like you and chris keep perpetuating this arguement against people giving critical feedback. If you want us to part with our cash if you're not offering something we want. Critical feedback is certainly one way to find out what people want. 

Modifié par DCarter, 08 septembre 2011 - 04:53 .


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DCarter wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

What is it you people don't get? If you don't like it, don't buy it. Simple as that.


Sorry but could you quote the bit where people said "i really hate this statue that's why i'm going to go out and buy 5 of them" because i must of missed it. Rest assured those of us who don't like it wont be buying it. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be giving an opinion on it. Bioware/ea/whoever is welcome to ignore our critical feedback and i'm sure they will if these figurines sell well. 



Chris Priestly said the same thing I said, with more words. Why don't you respond to him with this statement?

And I find some of the people in this thread to be hypocrites....

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That figure is as much Liara as this figure is Commander Shepard.

Sticking something that looks like an Asari in a uniform that looks like Liara's does not make it a "Liara" figurine.... just as me typing "N7" on this GI Joe doll doesn't make it a Shepard doll.


Sgt. Commander Slaughter G.I. Joe Shepard.

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The Twilight God wrote...

The only thing "wrong" with it is the Gerber Baby face.

 

I'm not a big  fan of the pose  and Liara has always had a Gerber face  no matter who renders her -  thats just her face. IMO 

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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

DCarter wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

What is it you people don't get? If you don't like it, don't buy it. Simple as that.


Sorry but could you quote the bit where people said "i really hate this statue that's why i'm going to go out and buy 5 of them" because i must of missed it. Rest assured those of us who don't like it wont be buying it. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be giving an opinion on it. Bioware/ea/whoever is welcome to ignore our critical feedback and i'm sure they will if these figurines sell well. 



Chris Priestly said the same thing I said, with more words. Why don't you respond to him with this statement?

And I find some of the people in this thread to be hypocrites....


You're a hypocrite.

Modifié par Montezuma IV, 08 septembre 2011 - 04:55 .


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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

What is it you people don't get? If you don't like it, don't buy it. Simple as that.


The problem is that people are seeing a trusted friend (and possibly lover) trivialized and sexualized by an exploitative anime sculptor.  It's bad enough that Liara felt the need to wear push-up space armor in LotSB, but now she may feel pressured to get eezo breast implants to keep pace with the unrealistic body image being foisted upon her by predatory entertainment media.

Aside from the emotional trauma this will cause the Bioware fanbase, there's also the matter of retconning our internal role-playing stories.  There could be thousands of pages of fanfic that will need adjustment to accommodate Liara's body image (and bigger boobs, in some of the more...exotic...writing).

The scope of this outrage is much wider than a simple decision not to by some sort of manga/anime statue.

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Montezuma IV wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

DCarter wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

What is it you people don't get? If you don't like it, don't buy it. Simple as that.


Sorry but could you quote the bit where people said "i really hate this statue that's why i'm going to go out and buy 5 of them" because i must of missed it. Rest assured those of us who don't like it wont be buying it. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be giving an opinion on it. Bioware/ea/whoever is welcome to ignore our critical feedback and i'm sure they will if these figurines sell well. 



Chris Priestly said the same thing I said, with more words. Why don't you respond to him with this statement?

And I find some of the people in this thread to be hypocrites....


You're a hypocrite.


I'd like an explanation, please. I do not believe I have done anything to be deemed a hypocrite.

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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Montezuma IV wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

DCarter wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

What is it you people don't get? If you don't like it, don't buy it. Simple as that.


Sorry but could you quote the bit where people said "i really hate this statue that's why i'm going to go out and buy 5 of them" because i must of missed it. Rest assured those of us who don't like it wont be buying it. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be giving an opinion on it. Bioware/ea/whoever is welcome to ignore our critical feedback and i'm sure they will if these figurines sell well. 



Chris Priestly said the same thing I said, with more words. Why don't you respond to him with this statement?

And I find some of the people in this thread to be hypocrites....


You're a hypocrite.


I'd like an explanation, please. I do not believe I have done anything to be deemed a hypocrite.


You have a signature that cleary means ill towards BioWare yet you are posting in their foums complaining about people who complain about something another company made.

Sound hypocritical? Don't worry about answering that, it was rhetorical.

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Why would I want to buy a model of my favourite character when it doesn't actually look like my favourite character?


It's a stylized version of her.  It resembles her enough so anyone who has played the game (LotSB or watched ME3 vids to see the armor) would recognize her.

If you don't think it looks enough like her then that is the fault of the style and/or sculptor.  IMO the original artwork was generally fine and recognizable, but that translated poorly into the actual model's creation.  I think the face is ugly regardless of the intended style, but this isn't the place for a general bashing or critique of the bishoujo style as a whole, which some people seem to think is relevant to BioWare boards.

Long story short, it's no real difference from the Shepard statue from way back or those little action figures that didn't seem to get off the ground very far.  There's enough likeness for it to be an official branded product and you don't have to buy it.  There's no use in getting offended over a statue designed by third parties.  It's basically fan art given the license from BioWare to sell.

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That figure is as much Liara as this figure is Commander Shepard.

Sticking something that looks like an Asari in a uniform that looks like Liara's does not make it a "Liara" figurine.... just as me typing "N7" on this GI Joe doll doesn't make it a Shepard doll.


I would pay good money for an outfit like this to be included in ME3.

Commander Policeman Ranger Lumberjack Wrestler Shepard.

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You people could have complained about it on the old thread.

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Tantum Dic Verbo wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

What is it you people don't get? If you don't like it, don't buy it. Simple as that.


The problem is that people are seeing a trusted friend (and possibly lover) trivialized and sexualized by an exploitative anime sculptor.  It's bad enough that Liara felt the need to wear push-up space armor in LotSB, but now she may feel pressured to get eezo breast implants to keep pace with the unrealistic body image being foisted upon her by predatory entertainment media.

Aside from the emotional trauma this will cause the Bioware fanbase, there's also the matter of retconning our internal role-playing stories.  There could be thousands of pages of fanfic that will need adjustment to accommodate Liara's body image (and bigger boobs, in some of the more...exotic...writing).

The scope of this outrage is much wider than a simple decision not to by some sort of manga/anime statue.


Those people need to realize that Liara is not real. Also, It only messes with their internal stories if they let it.

Also, Liara is a fanservice character, what did they expect? Mind you, I like the anime statue.

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It's stylized, come on people... it's obviously aimed at a LITTLE DIFFERENT demographic than hardcore fans of the game nitpicking at the lore even when it comes to toys, so can we at least let THIS slide?

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Aside from the stupid face I do not have a problem with it.

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gogman25 wrote...


Liara's transition from videogame character to statue has left her a little more curvaceous than before.
BioWare is once again looking for fan feedback on one of the women of Mass Effect.
It's not FemShep this time though, it's the Asari scientist Liara
T'Soni. BioWare has teamed up with the Japanese company Kotobukiya to
create a "bishoujo"-style Liara statue, and wants to know what fans
think of the prototype.





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"Bishoujo" is a type of character design seen in anime and manga and
refers to "young and pretty" girls. As you can see from the images,
the bishoujo Liara is quite different from the Liara that appears in the
game. The comments on the Mass Effect Facebook
page are overwhelmingly negative, with most saying that it strays too
far from Liara's established character. Nearly three and a half thousand
people have clicked "like" on the album though, so the the overall
opinion would seem to be mixed.
I'm hoping that BioWare and Kotobukiya go back to the drawing board
with this one. There's nothing wrong with the design itself per se.
Sure it's cheesecake and there's almost no way we're going to see
some sexed up version of Garrus or Thane or whoever to balance the
scales out, but it's certainly not the first large-chested, "sexy" Asari
we've seen. The problem is that this is supposed to be a specific Asari, and while it's a well made statue, it doesn't look like Liara, and more importantly, it doesn't feel like Liara.

http://www.escapistm...s-Effect-Statue


They want my take? No offence intended but it's nasty and doesn't even mildly resemble T'Soni, an Asari perhaps, but T'soni? It just looks like some Asari stole her outfit and decided to bunch her breasts up as much as possible, sorry Bioware... no dice from me.


I concur.  Too Sexy.  Doesn't fit Liara at all...  If this were Miranda however, it would fit perfectly.   Cuz let's be honest here, Miranda's a skank.

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