Bi_Winning wrote...
Has any straight male or female ever done a playthrough with a gay Hawke? Do you get anything special for having a gay relationship? All of my Hawkes are males so I might consider playing as a female to get the lesbo sexy scene with Isabela or Merril.
There are differences, though:naledgeborn wrote...
Yep, I'm going to complain about gender blindness again. I only played as Male Hawke who went for Isabela, but I get the feeling that this doesn't apply to just this set up. If you're going to make "everyone bi" at least make it believable BioWare. 98% of the conversations between MHawke and Isabela is probably interchangeable with FHawke. It was another "tough decision" like recycled maps.
@ Rifneno's comment regarding FHawke and Isabela. That almost makes me jealous MHawke doesn't get any special dialogue with Izzy. LOL
Modifié par ipgd, 11 septembre 2011 - 05:23 .
naledgeborn wrote...
^ real mature dude. gay people exist. did you not get the memo?
Modifié par leggywillow, 11 septembre 2011 - 06:03 .
Modifié par The Xand, 11 septembre 2011 - 06:12 .
Hmm. I must have missed the scene where Aveline hits on Hawke. A pity.The Xand wrote...
Tbh I wish all the companions would stop hitting on me since the romances seem immature and entirely unnecessary. The lesbian scenes in particular don't exactly do much to make gamers seem mature. The gays and bisexuals in the game also seem fairly unrealistic since I live in one of the gay centrals of Scotland and all the gays I've met have been fairly forward and not half so subtle in their approaches as the Dragon Age characters. Stupid companions. Come on people, get your heads in the game and out of your crotches! We've a world to save.
whykikyouwhy wrote...
Hmm. I must have missed the scene where Aveline hits on Hawke. A pity.
Modifié par The Xand, 11 septembre 2011 - 06:20 .
The Xand wrote...
whykikyouwhy wrote...
Hmm. I must have missed the scene where Aveline hits on Hawke. A pity.
She did all the time! But she had a face like a skelped airse so it doesn't count.
Carmen_Willow wrote...
I[m sorry, it's nice to be able to imagine my LI as straight when I play a straight character. Forcing me to hear that Anders and Karl were loves is kinda breaks the role for me. When I play straight, my LI is straight. When I play gay, my LI is gay. I like that Bioware gives me the choice to imagine my LI as I desire; i.e., straight/gay/bisexual. I'm glad they didn't take that away.
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The Xand wrote...
Tbh I wish all the companions would stop hitting on me since the romances seem immature and entirely unnecessary. The lesbian scenes in particular don't exactly do much to make gamers seem mature. The gays and bisexuals in the game also seem fairly unrealistic since I live in one of the gay centrals of Scotland and all the gays I've met have been fairly forward and not half so subtle in their approaches as the Dragon Age characters. Stupid companions. Come on people, get your heads in the game and out of your crotches! We've a world to save.
PuppyFlavour wrote...
The Xand wrote...
Tbh I wish all the companions would stop hitting on me since the romances seem immature and entirely unnecessary. The lesbian scenes in particular don't exactly do much to make gamers seem mature. The gays and bisexuals in the game also seem fairly unrealistic since I live in one of the gay centrals of Scotland and all the gays I've met have been fairly forward and not half so subtle in their approaches as the Dragon Age characters. Stupid companions. Come on people, get your heads in the game and out of your crotches! We've a world to save.
Why do you single out the lesbian scenes? Is the underlying assumption here that the only people playing them are men who want to see some girl-on-girl action? That is far from the truth, you know.
Also, being familiar with a small number of gay people doesn't mean that you can tell what a "realistic" take on homosexual/bisexual characters should be. We are not part of some hivemind. People differ from each other.
And sure, the romance part of the game isn't strictly necessary, but neither is party interaction and banter. They are there because they make the game more enjoyable for a lot of players.
PuppyFlavour wrote...
Why do you single out the lesbian scenes? Is the underlying assumption here that the only people playing them are men who want to see some girl-on-girl action? That is far from the truth, you know.
Also, being familiar with a small number of gay people doesn't mean that you can tell what a "realistic" take on homosexual/bisexual characters should be. We are not part of some hivemind. People differ from each other.
And sure, the romance part of the game isn't strictly necessary, but neither is party interaction and banter. They are there because they make the game more enjoyable for a lot of players.
Modifié par The Xand, 11 septembre 2011 - 06:38 .
Lots of generalizations there...how nice.The Xand wrote...
PuppyFlavour wrote...
Why do you single out the lesbian scenes? Is the underlying assumption here that the only people playing them are men who want to see some girl-on-girl action? That is far from the truth, you know.
Also, being familiar with a small number of gay people doesn't mean that you can tell what a "realistic" take on homosexual/bisexual characters should be. We are not part of some hivemind. People differ from each other.
And sure, the romance part of the game isn't strictly necessary, but neither is party interaction and banter. They are there because they make the game more enjoyable for a lot of players.
I singled out the lesbian scenes because since most gamers are male it's easier to tag us with the "horny nerd" stereotype when the media trots out cringeworthy lesbian scenes from Bioware games.
Besides I'd rather the teams spent less time on cringeworthy
romances and channelled those energies elsewhere. If I wanted to make
two digital girls make out I'd play the Sims.
As to gays, well since the pool is smaller they tend to be more direct in general. Speaking from experience here, spent a lot of time in gay clubs with a lot of gay friends so it's not like it's some mysterious clique to me.
whykikyouwhy wrote...
Lots of generalizations there...how nice.
If you consider the romances "cringeworthy" then don't choose any romance options. Play the game without them. They are optional. Nothing is forced upon you, and not all of the companions flirt with you. They have other (better) things to do, you know.
Glad that you visited some gay clubs. But that does not make you an expert as to what anyone in the LGBT community may be seeking in their personal lives or in their games.
Modifié par The Xand, 11 septembre 2011 - 06:51 .
The Xand wrote...
whykikyouwhy wrote...
Lots of generalizations there...how nice.
If you consider the romances "cringeworthy" then don't choose any romance options. Play the game without them. They are optional. Nothing is forced upon you, and not all of the companions flirt with you. They have other (better) things to do, you know.
Glad that you visited some gay clubs. But that does not make you an expert as to what anyone in the LGBT community may be seeking in their personal lives or in their games.
I must have missed out on there being more female gamers than male, and stats to back that up. Fact of the matter there *is* more male gamers than female and there *is* still the "horny undersexed nerd" stereotype to deal with, and cringeworthy lesbian scenes as found in Bioware games do nothing to deter that stereotype. People see those vids on Youtube and think "wow that's lame, do those nerds jack off to that" and other toss.
And no, my point was that the gays as represented in Dragon Age are unrealistic and not at all like the vast majority of those you meet in real life, many of whom choose to affect an irritating air of campness.
It's interesting that only the "lesbian" sex scenes are cringeworthy. Having seen some of the m/f scenes on YouTube, I could honestly say that I cringed a little.The Xand wrote...
whykikyouwhy wrote...
Lots of generalizations there...how nice.
If you consider the romances "cringeworthy" then don't choose any romance options. Play the game without them. They are optional. Nothing is forced upon you, and not all of the companions flirt with you. They have other (better) things to do, you know.
Glad that you visited some gay clubs. But that does not make you an expert as to what anyone in the LGBT community may be seeking in their personal lives or in their games.
I must have missed out on there being more female gamers than male, and stats to back that up. Fact of the matter there *is* more male gamers than female and there *is* still the "horny undersexed nerd" stereotype to deal with, and cringeworthy lesbian scenes as found in Bioware games do nothing to deter that stereotype. People see those vids on Youtube and think "wow that's lame, do those nerds jack off to that" and other toss.
And no, my point was that the gays as represented in Dragon Age are unrealistic and not at all like the vast majority of those you meet in real life, many of whom choose to affect an irritating air of campness.
Lol, there is that actually, but I've been hit on by a fair few guys outside of clubs too. I suppose it's because I'm more "cute" and "pretty" than "rugged" and "handsome" and appeal to gay guys and bi girls moreesper wrote...
If you meet gays at clubs that might just
be the reason that they are not so subtle. I have gays friends as well
and none of them obviously hits on people outside of the clubs, they are
far too shy. But when they go to gay clubs they go to score... hence
the reason for not being sublte.
whykikyouwhy wrote...
It's interesting that only the "lesbian" sex scenes are cringeworthy. Having seen some of the m/f scenes on YouTube, I could honestly say that I cringed a little.
"An irritating air of campness?" I don't recall any characters in the DA-verse that could possibly be gay that also were campy. *mulls* Nope. Not a one.
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The Xand wrote...
I must have missed out on there being more female gamers than male, and stats to back that up. Fact of the matter there *is* more male gamers than female and there *is* still the "horny undersexed nerd" stereotype to deal with, and cringeworthy lesbian scenes as found in Bioware games do nothing to deter that stereotype. People see those vids on Youtube and think "wow that's lame, do those nerds jack off to that" and other toss.
And no, my point was that the gays as represented in Dragon Age are unrealistic and not at all like the vast majority of those you meet in real life, many of whom choose to affect an irritating air of campness.
The Xand wrote...
Lol, there is that actually, but I've been hit on by a fair few guys outside of clubs too. I suppose it's because I'm more "cute" and "pretty" than "rugged" and "handsome" and appeal to gay guys and bi girls moreesper wrote...
If you meet gays at clubs that might just
be the reason that they are not so subtle. I have gays friends as well
and none of them obviously hits on people outside of the clubs, they are
far too shy. But when they go to gay clubs they go to score... hence
the reason for not being sublte.whykikyouwhy wrote...
It's interesting that only the "lesbian" sex scenes are cringeworthy. Having seen some of the m/f scenes on YouTube, I could honestly say that I cringed a little.
"An irritating air of campness?" I don't recall any characters in the DA-verse that could possibly be gay that also were campy. *mulls* Nope. Not a one.
Tbh all of the sex scenes are massively cringeworthy but it's the lesbian ones that would seemingly appeal more to the "horny nerd" than the hetro ones.
And yeah, that's what I mean. Where the hell are the really camp gays you often get? 'Tis unrealistic to not include them. (Though I'm glad they didn't, I like how the bi dude characters are subtle about it).
Bisexual men tend not to act so campy though because they still want girls and acting like Big Gay Al isn't going to get them far in that respect.PuppyFlavour wrote...
I don't act like this. None of my gay/bisexual friends act like this. The gay people in Dragon Age are not unrealistic, they are simply not the sort you're used to.
esper wrote...
I am not sure what you mean by 'camp' gay, but Warren and Herren in da:o?
The Xand wrote...
Bisexual men tend not to act so campy though because they still want girls and acting like Big Gay Al isn't going to get them far in that respect.PuppyFlavour wrote...
I don't act like this. None of my gay/bisexual friends act like this. The gay people in Dragon Age are not unrealistic, they are simply not the sort you're used to.esper wrote...
I am not sure what you mean by 'camp' gay, but Warren and Herren in da:o?
Ah, actually yeah they were what I was thinking of actually. Maybe a little more obvious though. Lol, didn't one of them turn out to be a Desire demon in the end though?
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