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[Xarathox]

Agamo45 wrote...

I think they need to be kicked off their throne. The asari and the other Council races were too blind, stubborn, and stupid to see the Reapers coming. They are obviously not fit to rule the galaxy.

Not to mention hypocritical.

The Salarians unleashed the Rachnai then the Krogan, dragging the galaxy as a whole into costly wars twice, in basically one sitting. Yet, they still have a council seat and were not punished.

The Quarians accidentally created AI which affected only them for 300 years and they were kicked out of galactic society from the start.

I've never cared for how the three main council races have treated and used those they consider beneath them. If the option is given in ME3, I will gladly sacrifice them to save humans, quarians and krogan.

[1136342t54_]

Its funny how people on here are so quick to commit genocide. They rather not actually think about the consequences. Very interesting.

[didymos1120]

InvaderErl wrote...

They were pretty much the Elven stereotype of Mass Effect, the long lived and wise race that was a bit "too perfect".

Yeah, well, except for say, the ones running slaving/drug-running/pirate gangs, the ones in those gangs, their murderous, lying siblings who get you to do their dirty work under false pretenses, the ones stripping in sleazy, low-rent bars, the ones doing highly unethical research into indoctrination, the ones asking you to abuse your Spectre status and hack a corporate competitor, and the ones who foolishly and idealistically joined up with Saren thinking to sway him with sweet reason and ended up as indoctrinated slaves.  Oh, and the ones who worked as mercs and took contracts for hit jobs and thought shooting up a space station for days on end was pretty good fun.

[Omega4RelayResident]

jamesp81 wrote...

Agamo45 wrote...

I think they need to be kicked off their throne. The asari and the other Council races were too blind, stubborn, and stupid to see the Reapers coming. They are obviously not fit to rule the galaxy.

I can't disagree with this.

The Asari coucilor has been the most understanding councilor of Shepard this entire time! What are you people smoking?

Asari Councilor: "We believe that you believe the Reaper theory commander."

In ME1 the Asari Councilor shuts up the Turian Councilor when he is about to object to Shep becoming a Spectre.

The Asari take their time to think about things... its in their nature just because of their long lifespans. The Salarian Councilor is understandably skeptical of Sheps claims because Salarians tend to think of all reasons and outcomes for all situations. There is just too much going on inside of his head for him to just believe Shep. The Turian Councilor is a tool. It is clear that he does not like humans... more than likely because of the "First Contact War" or "Relay 314 Incident" as they call it.

Just because they have a different culture does not mean they are all bad. I was involved in the "why hate Batarians" thread for a while until it turned into a flame war. I generally dont like the Batarians because they condone slavery. I dont think that means all Batarians are bad. The Batarian system of government needs to collapse but not their species. If I can convince a few Batarians that Humans are capable of good that is good enough for me.

Femenists claim to hate the Asari because of their promiscuity, the fact that it seems that Asari were created to satisfy the fantasies of space nerds. In fact the writers provided an all female culture is described as strong, wise, learned, and beautifull. This entire thread shows that Asari are not ignored or mocked by the community which is another thing femenists strive for. Its confuses me how some femenists despise the Asari so much yet they are the embodyment of everything they want for themselves.

As far as the whole Asari promiscuity thing. Women have urges too. Its just that since there are no males in the Asari race the sex drive had to evolve to be more aggresive in all Asari just so that their race and culture can exist.

Bottom line it is easy to point fingers and stereotype... it is harder to see that all racs have their negative memebers. So should I hate Turians because of the Turian Councilor treating Shep like mud, Saren trying to destroy life as we know it, or the fact that turians that dont fit in with their own militaristic society join the Blue Suns? No. Garrus is an amazing example of the nobility and honor the Turians embody. Just as Liara is an exceptional example that Asari are warm, considerate, patient, caring, and that not all of them are uber-permiscuous.

[Xarathox]

1136342t54 wrote...

Its funny how people on here are so quick to commit genocide. They rather not actually think about the consequences. Very interesting.

Funny thing is, I can't think of any real consequence for ditching the three original council races.

Turrians are just as trigger happy as krogans with no sense of diplomacy.

Asari are practially dead weight, and considering they've been a space faring species for only three generations have less insight than any of the shorter lived races in the galaxy.

Salarians have a unique opportunity to make technological leaps considering their species higher IQ averages over everyone else, not to mention the ability to truely improve the lives of everyone (not just themselves), but have done squat in the how many generations they've been around?

I'm not seeing the need to keep them around as any type of politcal power. I suppose if they can be removed from galactic government without the need to let the reapers kill them off, I'd be willing to go that route. But I honestly don't see a non violent option. Key political assassinations and all out war are the only two options to truely topple governments.

[Han Shot First]

Undertone wrote...

Asari are useless - stagnant and complacent. The only thing that is worth about them is their biotic potential, which I'm certain humanity will overcome eventually.

Doubtful.

Of course anything can be written into the story, but humans surpassing the Asari in biotic potential would be facepalm worthy. The reason the Asari are so adept with biotics is because their homeworld is extremely eezo rich and the native lifeforms of that planet evolved accordingly. The Asari have an evolutionary advantage over the humans in that area.

I for one hope that humanity is never made more powerful than the Asari with biotics. The more humanity is made 'special' in the lore of Mass Effect, the more ridiculous the story becomes. It is bad enough that humanity was already made the most genetically diverse species in the galaxy, when humanity is in fact not genetically diverse at all.

[Nizzemancer]

I still feel that they are blue space-elfs with a penchant for doing anyone regardless of gender or species.

[Homey C-Dawg]

Never cared much for asari myself.

[1136342t54_]

[quote]Xarathox wrote...

Turrians are just as trigger happy as krogans with no sense of diplomacy.
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Incorrect. Turians fight to eliminate potential threats Krogan fight because they like to fight. That First Contact war is more likely a mistake of the commander of the Turian vessels in the area not the entire Hierarchy government.

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Asari are practially dead weight, and considering they've been a space faring species for only three generations have less insight than any of the shorter lived races in the galaxy.
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You have a point. I mean a species that basically formed a Galactic government, have diplomatic capabilities good enough to actually get multiple races to join the Citadel and advanced technology to the point where they could possibly create their own Mass Relays are just so Dead weight.

Also explain the insight. Explain how their insight is sooo inferior since the Codex basically says different.

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Salarians have a unique opportunity to make technological leaps considering their species higher IQ averages over everyone else, not to mention the ability to truely improve the lives of everyone (not just themselves), but have done squat in the how many generations they've been around?
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Oh yeah your right. Its not like the Salarians biotechnology is so advanced they are able to render a race sterile or extinct if they wanted and their GARDIAN laser is tech superior to everyone elses. Also they aren't even the premier of information warfare to the point where in the novel Revelation one Salarian was able to grab classified SA military info.

Hint: All of that was sarcasm.

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I'm not seeing the need to keep them around as any type of politcal power. I suppose if they can be removed from galactic government without the need to let the reapers kill them off, I'd be willing to go that route. But I honestly don't see a non violent option. Key political assassinations and all out war are the only two options to truely topple governments.

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The Citadel Council for all their faults were the only people holding the Galaxy together. Without their power Citadel space will just turn into another Terminus Systems. The Alliance as of ME3 gets butt raped by the Reapers so humanity couldn't really do crap anyway.

[Drone223]

I don't hate Asari nor was I a big fan of them there are really only a few interesting individuals/groups Illium bartender, Shiala, Justicars and Ardat Yakshi and thats it they are a very dull species

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

The Asari, having lives about 1000 yrs or so, tend not to view things in such a rush, and are not testosterone fueled, so play the role as mediators. Matriarch Aethyta (Liara's "Dad") seems to view things in a less leisurely fashion, something Liara also seems to share.

The Salarians, being really short lived, are in a hurry about everything.

Humans are also in a hurry about stuff.

Nah, I like the Asari.

[eternalnightmare13]

They're just the galaxy's **** toys, nothing more.

[didymos1120]

eternalnightmare13 wrote...

They're just the galaxy's **** toys, nothing more.

Well, you know, except for all the ones who aren't. Which would be most of them.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

They are rather fun to kill.
So I'm all for keeping them around.

[shiftylookingspacecow]

Asari freak me out. Some from all species find them attractive, they can make a 100% Asari baby with any species, they're natural biotics, they can learn the memories of anyone they bond with, they're great diplomats, and they live for 1000 years.

They could make a species go extinct simply by mating with them.
Maybe the asari's 'dirty secret' is that they weren't the only ones on Thessia? Maybe the other species died off because the asari 'outgrew' them?

[Yakko77]

Agamo45 wrote...

I think they need to be kicked off their throne. The asari and the other Council races were too blind, stubborn, and stupid to see the Reapers coming. They are obviously not fit to rule the galaxy.

They seem to fall into that, "Ready to fight the last war" mentality at best.  With a few notable exceptions, humanity is little better even if they do introduce some new tactics and vessels like carriers and stealth frigates (essentially submarines in a way) to space combat (yes, I understand the Turians had a hand in the SR1 as well).  But overall, they strike me as the Admirals and Generals pre-WWII who thought the Maginot Line and big gun battleships were still primary.  Little to no forward thinking capability at all.

[Mr_Commander_Shepard]

ddv.rsa wrote...

Cyberstrike nTo wrote...

Even the best of humanity fails against the worst of asari.

*Compares Miranda and the slave broker from Illium*

Nah, disagree.

Shepard Vs Any/all asari, Humans<Asari

[azerSheppard]

1136342t54 wrote...

Its funny how people on here are so quick to commit genocide. They rather not actually think about the consequences. Very interesting.

Genocide at the push of a button does not carry the same weight as killing a thousand with your bare hands. So obviously people are quick to kill of races if it's offered in a "Rachni choice" style.

[General Hammer]

Everybody is irresponsible forever.... that said ME3 is going to be fixing the problems everyone else made IE salarians and krogan quarians and geth Im sure the asari have pissed off someone (probably the turians for some out of the blue reason.)

[JeffZero]

No, my opinion basically remains the same -- out of all the major races, they're my least favorite overall. That isn't to say there haven't been some fun exceptions though.

[PauseforEffect]

Actually, it's thanks to Samara and Aethyta that I find Asari as a whole more likeable. Before, they were kind of annoying to look at as they were a constant reminder of their role as the token space alien babe. Their design always strikes me as a lack of imagination as to what is beautiful and the long life span seemed a bit overdone for their species.
Maybe it's because they've been given more flaws that they seem easier to see as an actual culture instead of an idealized one.

[JeffZero]

I like the way you think, PrimalEden. I feel similarly.

[ThePwener]

Asari aren't that great. They never were. A race that starts off as strippers for over 100 years isn't on my respected races list.

[KotorEffect3]

*sigh* Shepard never would have found Ilos if it wasn't for the help of at least 3 asari.