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[Vikali]

 I just finished reading Karpyshyn's second ME novel again, and when I came across the storage of several days worth of excretement in the suits, all I could think of "It's must be stanky in there".

Also, how do they wipe?

Maybe at the end of Tali's scene, she jumps on Shepard because he fainted due to poop smell. And she was just checking up on him.

[ADLegend21]

hahaha

What Ryn said.

[Chala]

Old joke...
But it still being funny as hell

[kglaser]

Troll thread is trollish.

[Vikali]

I'm genuinely curious. Don't give me that scrubber excuse. Have a bag scat in your room for days and no amount of fabreeze and lysol will make your room smell better.

[Skullheart]

well, quarians can eat and drink without removing their helmet, so they should be able to eliminate their faeces in a higienic way. Just think that they have been living in those suits since 300 or more years ago, so they have already solved that problem.

edit:

I have this to see the evolution of this topic.

Modifié par Skullheart, 09 septembre 2011 - 03:27 .

[Blitzkrieg0811]

I lol'd at the this topic title, so I thought I'd drop in.

http://t0.gstatic.co...1gz1KDww_37OvZQ

I see it's just a troll thread though, so I reported and moved on.

Modifié par Blitzkrieg0811, 09 septembre 2011 - 03:25 .

[pfhorlorn]

Possibly one of the most hilarious serious questions I've come across in my nearly eighteen years of existence. Props to you, OP, props to you.

I imagine that they have some kind of futuristic sanitizing stuff in their suit -- maybe not a scrubber. Maybe a tube or something that interfaces with their suit and uses the excrement as biomass energy. Who knows?

Quarians have terrible immune systems, so they probably don't just waddle in their filth. That'd be counterproductive.

[Grey Starr]

Dammit, you.

[Vikali]

Do they also eject the many containers fully, or just the contents? I can't imagine containers flush well.

And if I'm a troll, then so is Gillian. She asked it first. And I was pleasantly happy that she did because I was curious too. But that quarian didn't give a good enough answer.

[SPACE_GREASER]

yes she smells worse than a krogan & batarian gettin it on

[AdmiralCheez]

Heh heh. Poop.

[ErichHartmann]

The truth is out there.

[ohbobsagetpiss]

 lmao

[Badpie]

I mean I suppose it's a valid question, what with the suits and all. I hadn't really thought of it.... Okay I had. Here's hoping the quarians have a way of staying fresh and clean in their suits.

[Zakatak757]

neo7732 wrote...

yes she smells worse than a krogan & batarian gettin it on

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Well, looks like I'm pulling an all-nighter!
(I will never sleep again, fkin Bosh'tet)

[Siansonea]

Ponies.

[Merlin 47]

Oh jeez....Kite, I don't think you're a troll and I happen to be a fan of Tali.

To be honest, I lol'ed a little when I read the response (it was funny!) Now, to be serious, I don't see why not. I mean, they're in those suits 24/7 as far as we've been told so it must be warm in them, which would cause body odor to build.

It an interesting question if you're being serious, I think you are.

[Zakatak757]

Wouldn't they have some kind of waste-processing system, like the Nanosuit? Basically turns your ****** 'n poo into energy?

Maybe it has a air-tight assflap on the back?

[Sundance31us]

It would depend on what their excretions are like; bird droppings usually don't have the same potency of other creatures.

[lobi]

Open the side panel of your computer and take a whiff, then you will know. I will now go and make myself a chicken sandwich, with mustard.

[Kaiser Shepard]

This appears to have become the consensus amongst Talimancers, so yeah:

Thundertactics wrote...

A while ago, I created thesis on Clan Zorah regarding quarian sweat, etc. I'll post it here with some post-scriptum edits and abridging, it was created over the course of approximately 40 minutes. In several posts.

It started off as an analysis of Tali's sweat, trying to figure out what it'd smell and taste like. I quickly realised that most scents originate from bacteria, which would be minimal to non-existant for quarians.
The next best thing, would be urea. Urea is essential for the metabolism of mammals, and also a bonding agent (For say, p-cresol and o-cresol, two odor chemicals found in sweat. Though these likely aren't available to quarians), and it, and residues of the amino acids and chemicals used in its production are excreted through many different ways. Urine, sweat, etc.
This thesis assumes quarians are anything like mammals back on earth and have a digestive system at least remotely similar to theirs.

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One of the main components of sweat, urea, is not affected by chirality, it cannot have a mirrored/dextro version:

The scent it is associated with is derrived from residues of ammonia excreted along with it, which is a by-product of the production of urea.

Now, here's the deal, urea requires a ton of amino acids in order to be produced (levo amino acids, obviously), a short summary from Wikipedia:

Wikipedia wrote...

Urea is synthesized in the body of many organisms as part of the urea cycle, either from the oxidation of amino acids or from ammonia. In this cycle, amino groups donated by ammonia and L-aspartate are converted to urea, while L-ornithine, citrulline, L-argininosuccinate, and L-arginine act as intermediates

Hence, this could result in a significantly different smell and composure of both her sweat, and other urea based excretions.

The urea cycle:


You see that "Arg" thing right below Urea on the urea cycle? Yeah, it stands for L-Arginine, you can get the dextro version through a largely similar cycle. It's an extremely mild neuro-toxic, pretty much a relaxing drug, a depressant, though excessive usage would actually result in additional stimulations, a stimulant.

A member of Clan Zorah, Troodon80, claims to have had personal experience with the substance as a depressant, and states that it is, in fact, addictive.

Additionally, the dextro version of "Asp" (stands for L-Aspartate), in order for it to be soluble like it's levo counterpart,  it would likely bond with sodium, resulting in Sodium D-Aspartate, which is a natural performance enhancer [2], it massively increases the human body's production of testostorone, also resulting in an increased libido.

Finally, Orn, stands for L-ornithine. This amino acid allows for the disposal of excess nitrogen.
Dextro version of this is largely similar in role, except for the fact that it is far more prone to create a hydrogen bond. (Including with molecules like ammonia, NH3)
Hence, it would demobilize the ammonia and eliminate the odor eminated from the production of urea to quite an extent.

So, so far, we can tell that Tali would not smell nearly as bad as those filthy humans, her sweat's a drug and a natural performance enhancer.

As for additional odors , that would be determined by MHC's and pheromones, which are too large and complex to even consider estimating with the limited knowledge we have at this time. Though the production of MHC's is also a key component of our immunesystem, so they might be considerably less common for quarians. (They might even have something completely different altogether)is time. Though the production of MHC's is also a key component of our immunesystem, so they might be considerably less common for quarians. (They might even have something completely different altogether)
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Remember, this is largely speculation, and I am by no means an expert, merely an enthusiastic amateur, so if you think there's anything you can change or debunk of my theory, be my guest. I'd be eager to learn.

But if you do agree, here's a question for ya': Licking Tali or licking Thane? >_>

Personally I'm not so sure what to think of it, but I suppose it's better than no answer at all.

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 09 septembre 2011 - 04:26 .