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Once upon a time, all was quite on the sexuality battlefront.....

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Everytime guys go "OMG SOMEONE UNWANTED HIT ON ME!"

I just laugh. Now you know how it feels bucko.

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I've seen that statement far too many times to still try and make sense of it. It's like saying a man has an allergy to water because he's temporarily stranded in a desert.


Yeah, Datas_12 explained it quite well.

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darthnick427 wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

First off there is no Shepard canon. BioWare has said this already. Every Shepard is different. To think that is folly in the nth degree.

Secondly, if you want your Shepard to remain a hetrosexual, then play it that way. No one is forcing you to make your Shepard to be bi/gay.


Well technically if they make a Mass Effect Movie, there will be a canon Shepard...just sayin

Only if Shepard is in it and if they make it a male they will ****** off those like myself that play with femShep.  Which is the reason Shepard sex is never mentioned in any of the novels where Shepard is mentioned or the comics.

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ladyvader wrote...

darthnick427 wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

First off there is no Shepard canon. BioWare has said this already. Every Shepard is different. To think that is folly in the nth degree.

Secondly, if you want your Shepard to remain a hetrosexual, then play it that way. No one is forcing you to make your Shepard to be bi/gay.


Well technically if they make a Mass Effect Movie, there will be a canon Shepard...just sayin

Only if Shepard is in it and if they make it a male they will ****** off those like myself that play with femShep.  Which is the reason Shepard sex is never mentioned in any of the novels where Shepard is mentioned or the comics.

There isn't even an "only if". If Shepard is in a Mass Effect movie what happens in the game takes precedence over what happens in the movie. For example, what is explained in the Hitman movie about Agent 47 being an orphan is not considered canon because the games had already established how Agent 47 came to be an assassin.

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jreezy wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

darthnick427 wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

First off there is no Shepard canon. BioWare has said this already. Every Shepard is different. To think that is folly in the nth degree.

Secondly, if you want your Shepard to remain a hetrosexual, then play it that way. No one is forcing you to make your Shepard to be bi/gay.


Well technically if they make a Mass Effect Movie, there will be a canon Shepard...just sayin

Only if Shepard is in it and if they make it a male they will ****** off those like myself that play with femShep.  Which is the reason Shepard sex is never mentioned in any of the novels where Shepard is mentioned or the comics.

There isn't even an "only if". If Shepard is in a Mass Effect movie what happens in the game takes precedence over what happens in the movie. For example, what is explained in the Hitman movie about Agent 47 being an orphan is not considered canon because the games had already established how Agent 47 came to be an assassin.

That works for a game like Hitman because Agent 47 is male.  Shepard can be either sex and having a movie with Shepard in it won't work.  All it will do is alienate people that played Shepard as a female because I'd be willing to bet that Shepard would be male.  I know I wouldn't bother to see it nor rent it and I love Mass Effect, but I don't want to be forced after three games with my femShep to watch a movie that only has Shepard as male.

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Movies =! game canon people.

it's just a movie.

Now if BW does some bull like Lucas Art and "Revan was actually a man." then I'll get irritated.

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It is a good idea. I don't want to see garrus tries with my Shepard as Liara in ME. There is not problem if Shepard must begin.

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Movies =! game canon people.

it's just a movie.

Now if BW does some bull like Lucas Art and "Revan was actually a man." then I'll get irritated.


To be fair they stated the Jedi Exile was a woman, hehe.

Modifié par Montezuma IV, 09 septembre 2011 - 06:44 .


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Ryzaki wrote...

Movies =! game canon people.

it's just a movie.

Now if BW does some bull like Lucas Art and "Revan was actually a man." then I'll get irritated.


The cannon Exile in kotor 2 was female.

starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Exile

Edit ^^^^ beat me to it.

Modifié par mango smoothie, 09 septembre 2011 - 06:47 .


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ladyvader wrote...

jreezy wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

darthnick427 wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

First off there is no Shepard canon. BioWare has said this already. Every Shepard is different. To think that is folly in the nth degree.

Secondly, if you want your Shepard to remain a hetrosexual, then play it that way. No one is forcing you to make your Shepard to be bi/gay.


Well technically if they make a Mass Effect Movie, there will be a canon Shepard...just sayin

Only if Shepard is in it and if they make it a male they will ****** off those like myself that play with femShep.  Which is the reason Shepard sex is never mentioned in any of the novels where Shepard is mentioned or the comics.

There isn't even an "only if". If Shepard is in a Mass Effect movie what happens in the game takes precedence over what happens in the movie. For example, what is explained in the Hitman movie about Agent 47 being an orphan is not considered canon because the games had already established how Agent 47 came to be an assassin.

That works for a game like Hitman because Agent 47 is male.  Shepard can be either sex and having a movie with Shepard in it won't work.  All it will do is alienate people that played Shepard as a female because I'd be willing to bet that Shepard would be male.  I know I wouldn't bother to see it nor rent it and I love Mass Effect, but I don't want to be forced after three games with my femShep to watch a movie that only has Shepard as male.

Gender has nothing to do with it. What is established in the game takes precedence over what happens in the movie because the game came first. If the games have established that there is no canon Shepard then what happens in the movie only matters to the lore of the movie, not the lore of the entire media.

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For the record, I support same-sex romances in games. Now that's said, and playing devil's advocate for a second, I can see OP's point when all evidence points to the fact that Shepard was devised as straight in ME1 and ME2, simply because he had not opportunities to hook up with the male companions: Kaidan, Thane, Garrus, Jacob. After hundreds of hours playing those games, in my mind, Shepard is straight as well simply because he is associated with his romances, which were all female. But hey, I guess he can come out of the closet at any age or time. I'm happy there's a choice for everyone's sexuality, because I can fully comprehend how irritating it must be for gay players to be forced to play straight characters for lack of other possibilities. I just hope we won't get ninja romances à la DA2, be they from male or female characters. Being friendly does not equal flirting.

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Weyrloc Guld wrote...

It is a good idea. I don't want to see garrus tries with my Shepard as Liara in ME. There is not problem if Shepard must begin.

OP, you just created another account to respond yourself? lol :lol:

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NinaDA wrote...

For the record, I support same-sex romances in games. Now that's said, and playing devil's advocate for a second, I can see OP's point when all evidence points to the fact that Shepard was devised as straight in ME1 and ME2, simply because he had not opportunities to hook up with the male companions: Kaidan, Thane, Garrus, Jacob. After hundreds of hours playing those games, in my mind, Shepard is straight as well simply because he is associated with his romances, which were all female. But hey, I guess he can come out of the closet at any age or time. I'm happy there's a choice for everyone's sexuality, because I can fully comprehend how irritating it must be for gay players to be forced to play straight characters for lack of other possibilities. I just hope we won't get ninja romances à la DA2, be they from male or female characters. Being friendly does not equal flirting.


IIRC, S/S romances actually had all of, or most of the dialogue voiced for them in Mass Effect 1 if you mod it a little to "enable" them, so you could say Shepard could have been gay right from the start. It's kinda like how Tali was meant to be an LI in ME1 but Bioware thought not many people would be interested in a chicken-legged ... well ... Quarian (???) like that. Of course that turned out to be wrong since apparently a lot of people craved a Tali romance and it ended up happening for ME2.

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Ophiskc wrote...

Weyrloc Guld wrote...

It is a good idea. I don't want to see garrus tries with my Shepard as Liara in ME. There is not problem if Shepard must begin.

OP, you just created another account to respond yourself? lol :lol:


LOL! It isn't a good "welcome" for me: Weyrloc Guld, the chief of the Weyrloc.
I'm new of this forum as major, but i am not he.

That was my opinion.

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why do people keep saying that DA2 had ninjamances? I don't even think ME2 had ninjamances since you had very clear options of saying "no" (the fact that it pretty much ended all available dialog is a separate problem - friendship paths in general were.. lacking in ME2) but with DA2 - you had icons! heart/broken heart. and unlike ME2 - you still had plenty of dialogue left after it. maybe my definition of ninjamance is different from other people, but the only ninjamance I can see as actual ninjamances are those from ME1 - where you ended up in a relationship if you simply nice (and sending them away before Ilos didn't end the romance.. and only Liara had an option that outright said "I'm not interested in you that way" that didn't work half the time) as long as you have an option to break it off at any time? IMO its not ninjamance, its a misunderstanding of intentions.

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Major Badass wrote...

Why decide in-game when we could decide before the game even starts?

Well, you might change your mind.  You never know.

Besides, it'd be like turning on a feature that auto-selectd all the paragon/renegade options.  Even if you'll never choose a certain option, it's silly to take away that choice.

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Ophiskc wrote...
OP, you just created another account to respond yourself? lol :lol:

Exactly what I though Image IPB

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mango smoothie wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Movies =! game canon people.

it's just a movie.

Now if BW does some bull like Lucas Art and "Revan was actually a man." then I'll get irritated.


The cannon Exile in kotor 2 was female.

starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Exile

Edit ^^^^ beat me to it.


Yeah they also said she recruited Handmaiden (something femExile can't do in he game). So yeah...

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lazuli wrote...

Registered today? Check.

Bringing up controversial topics that have already been discussed to death? Check.


yeah, I suppose so.

Thread's dead, baby. Thread's dead.

Modifié par stysiaq, 09 septembre 2011 - 07:46 .


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IsaacShep wrote...

Ophiskc wrote...
OP, you just created another account to respond yourself? lol :lol:

Exactly what I thoughImage IPB 


In this forum all are nice! If you don't believe me, i don't care.

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Ryzaki wrote...

mango smoothie wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Movies =! game canon people.

it's just a movie.

Now if BW does some bull like Lucas Art and "Revan was actually a man." then I'll get irritated.


The cannon Exile in kotor 2 was female.

starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Exile

Edit ^^^^ beat me to it.


Yeah they also said she recruited Handmaiden (something femExile can't do in he game). So yeah...

The Handmaiden was sort of a compromise so they (meaning anyone writing for SW) wouldn't lose her story in the greater canoncity of Star Wars.Star Wars has a pretty screwy canon where the later works take precidence and "word of God" frequently cancels out other pieces of work. Since Star Wars started out as having one singular timeline, they (Leeland Chee) felt the need for a solid Revan and Exile (as well as Jaden Korr) thus we have canon Revan and canon Exile. 

Comic book movies and Mass Effect follow several hundred timelines so there still wouldn't be a singular canon Shepard.  

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Hey look, it's this dumb idea again. Grow up, boys. If another boy wants to have sex with you, you can say no. I know it sounds counterintuitive to say no to sex, but it can be done.

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Hey look, it's this dumb idea again. Grow up, boys. If another boy wants to have sex with you, you can say no. I know it sounds counterintuitive to say no to sex, but it can be done.

You're wrong. It's a proven fact that saying no to somebody who is attracted to you is impossible.^_^

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MACharlie1 wrote...
The Handmaiden was sort of a compromise so they (meaning anyone writing for SW) wouldn't lose her story in the greater canoncity of Star Wars.Star Wars has a pretty screwy canon where the later works take precidence and "word of God" frequently cancels out other pieces of work. Since Star Wars started out as having one singular timeline, they (Leeland Chee) felt the need for a solid Revan and Exile (as well as Jaden Korr) thus we have canon Revan and canon Exile. 

Comic book movies and Mass Effect follow several hundred timelines so there still wouldn't be a singular canon Shepard.  


I hope so. Canon Shepard makes me wanna cry.