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[Made Nightwing]

IsaacShep wrote...

Zakatak757 wrote...

What is "VS"?

Valuable Sentinel

Very Sexy

[Collider]

Voluptuous Seacow
(dire political implications)

Modifié par Collider, 09 septembre 2011 - 11:24 .

[ladyvader]

jreezy wrote...

KingNothing125 wrote...

Good for Tali.

Doesn't change anything. Ashley and Kaidan have their own personalities. Sorry they don't see the world through the same lens as Tali and you do.

If your Shep wants to be petty and crap all over the VS because of a brief, heated exchange on Horizon, that's your business. Some of the rest of us can understand their point of view and can let that crap slide.

Heated exchange? Not really. Oh and Ash and Kaidan have the same personality if you look at Horizon. I don't know why BioWare thought it was a good idea for Ash and Kaidan to have copy and paste dialog since they did have seperate personalities. Kaidan wouldn't react to a situation the same as Ash would but it happened. I hope BioWare really does differentiate Ashley and Kaidan in Mass Effect 3 but I have my doubts after Horizon.

Only part of their dialogue was the same.  Kaidan called Shepard a ghost while Ash said God.  Only after that first part when they are talking to Delan when it became the same.  Which was bad. 

I'm with you though jreezy, I don't think we will see much difference between Ash and Kaidan in ME3.  I hope we get their personalities like they were in ME1.  Not exactly the same, but not them being clones of each other like they sorta were in ME2.

[spirosz]

Isn't there a VS thread discussing both sides, or has it not been active as of late?

[AdmiralCheez]

IsaacShep wrote...

Valuable Sentinel

Okay, you have to explain Psyduck Kaidan in your signature.

[Funkcase]

Seriously if anyone I knew came back after being dead for two years and I find out they're working for the IRA or the Taliban I would have much more harsh words for them, I wouldn't want to see them again, I wouldn't ever trust them again. It's not like people just die and come back from the dead everyday and start working for people they considered an ememy when they were alive.

And I certainly wouldn't have called them a God or a legend! If calling you a God is considered hurting your feelings you seriously need your ego put in place.

Modifié par Funkcase, 09 septembre 2011 - 11:43 .

[syllogi]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Valuable Sentinel

Okay, you have to explain Psyduck Kaidan in your signature.

Kaiduck needs no explanation.



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[shepskisaac]

Made Nightwing wrote...

Very Sexy

I cannot say anything other than "Fully agree!"

AdmiralCheez wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Valuable Sentinel

Okay, you have to explain Psyduck Kaidan in your signature.

Psyduck is electric and has a migrane. Sounds familiar?

[Collider]

And his commander is a red head.

[Golden Owl]

Makes me glad my Shep is a single man...he doesn't have these lover's issues.

That said though...the Horizon meeting did bite, but for the fact that I felt Shep was being a real douche himself...He is more than aware himself of who Cerberus is and knows what he and his squad saw in ME1....I hate that line "Cerberus is the only one willing to do something about it"...Sheps defense of his being with Cerberus was flimsy at best, no real explanations, just a lot of stubid statements on his behalf....the VS did have a right to know the particulars of what was going on and a more detailed reason as to why Shep was with Cerberus....instead of just a lot of defensive prattle.

[AdmiralCheez]

TeenZombie wrote...

Kaiduck needs no explanation.

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OHGODAWHOLEGALLERYOFTHEM.

[Omega4RelayResident]

I am asking for the choice.... once again I have to state this.... I am not outwardly asking that BioWare F-Shafts the VS LI supporters..... Am i clear on this yet?

I want there to be a choice to defend Sheps actions and feelings... I want Shep to finally let some anger out for once and display a side of him/her that is human.

I can understand people and all the sides you are arguing for... but I also want to know if anyone has ever lost someone the same way Kaidan / Ashley did. Not the exact same way to Collector surprise attacks. I just mean in general. Would you honestly react the same way the VS LI did?

[Ryzaki]

I'm sorry AdmiralCheez I usually agree with you but saying Shepard's always cheating on the VS if he/she moves on is straight up bullsh*t. Now some Sheps maybe cheating. Mine certainly isn't. 

You kind of have to be in a relationship to be cheating. Whatever relationship the VS had with my Shepard ended when he/she died. (Horizon was just the final nail in the coffin). 

Now they're welcome to get back together. But my Shep's certainly not cheating on them. And as far as I'm concerned my Sheps have no desire to get back with them. 

Half a year and the only apology I get is some half assed letter? They can kick rocks. And I want the *option* to be able to tell them as much. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 10 septembre 2011 - 12:17 .

[Xilizhra]

I support the chance to support Shepard's position in this case, despite never romancing either VS.

[Funkcase]

Omega4RelayResident wrote...



I can understand people and all the sides you are arguing for... but I also want to know if anyone has ever lost someone the same way Kaidan / Ashley did. Not the exact same way to Collector surprise attacks. I just mean in general. Would you honestly react the same way the VS LI did?

A family member of mine was murdered by the IRA. If anyone I've ever known joined the IRA I would treat them worse, I would never forgive them, or trust them, and I would go out of my way to see them behind bars.

I just think the VS were shocked after just seeing a dead man, who is now working for the ememy. They called Shepard a God/Legend, I dont see how thats bad. They dont know what Cerberus could have done, I mean Miranda did speak of a control chip. Besides it can be implied Anderson doesn't trust Shepard, he wont tell Shepard anything about the VS, ''It's classified. I cant tell you anymore, not whilst you're working with Cerberus'' And he approved of the Horizon mission. And the VS confirmed to Anderson that Shepard was telling the truth, speak to him post Horizon about the VS.

[Omega4RelayResident]

@AdmiralCheez

IF the e-mail prompted Shep to have a private video conversation with the VS LI I would accept it and from there things might have gotten better. A simple e-mail doesnt cut it for me.

I usually agree with you Admiral Cheez.... but what you are saying is wrong.... you are basically telling me I cant have the choice to play my canon Shep the way I want to.... I do not wish the same for you though.

Modifié par Omega4RelayResident, 10 septembre 2011 - 01:03 .

[Xilizhra]

A family member of mine was murdered by the IRA. If anyone I've ever known joined the IRA I would treat them worse, I would never forgive them, or trust them, and I would go out of my way to see them behind bars.

I don't think that fits, unless the IRA is fighting Cthulhu.

[Omega4RelayResident]

Funkcase wrote...

Omega4RelayResident wrote...



I can understand people and all the sides you are arguing for... but I also want to know if anyone has ever lost someone the same way Kaidan / Ashley did. Not the exact same way to Collector surprise attacks. I just mean in general. Would you honestly react the same way the VS LI did?

A family member of mine was murdered by the IRA. If anyone I've ever known joined the IRA I would treat them worse, I would never forgive them, or trust them, and I would go out of my way to see them behind bars.

I just think the VS were shocked after just seeing a dead man, who is now working for the ememy. They called Shepard a God/Legend, I dont see how thats bad. They dont know what Cerberus could have done, I mean Miranda did speak of a control chip. Besides it can be implied Anderson doesn't trust Shepard, he wont tell Shepard anything about the VS, ''It's classified. I cant tell you anymore, not whilst you're working with Cerberus'' And he approved of the Horizon mission. And the VS confirmed to Anderson that Shepard was telling the truth, speak to him post Horizon about the VS.

Dude I said that the VS LI heard about the rumors that Shep was alive.... I never said anything about the "classified" conversation Anderson said to Shep.... you missread it.

Also I am sorry for your loss.

Modifié par Omega4RelayResident, 10 septembre 2011 - 12:31 .

[Funkcase]

Xilizhra wrote...

A family member of mine was murdered by the IRA. If anyone I've ever known joined the IRA I would treat them worse, I would never forgive them, or trust them, and I would go out of my way to see them behind bars.

I don't think that fits, unless the IRA is fighting Cthulhu.

That wasn't the point I was trying to make, I meant I wouldn't forgive anyone who would work for a terrorist group.

[Xilizhra]

Funkcase wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

A family member of mine was murdered by the IRA. If anyone I've ever known joined the IRA I would treat them worse, I would never forgive them, or trust them, and I would go out of my way to see them behind bars.

I don't think that fits, unless the IRA is fighting Cthulhu.

That wasn't the point I was trying to make, I meant I wouldn't forgive anyone who would work for a terrorist group.

Which is fine, except that this particular terrorist group in-game is spending most of its resources on fighting a much worse threat, something few IRL terrorist groups do.

[Funkcase]

Omega4RelayResident wrote...

Funkcase wrote...

Omega4RelayResident wrote...



I can understand people and all the sides you are arguing for... but I also want to know if anyone has ever lost someone the same way Kaidan / Ashley did. Not the exact same way to Collector surprise attacks. I just mean in general. Would you honestly react the same way the VS LI did?

A family member of mine was murdered by the IRA. If anyone I've ever known joined the IRA I would treat them worse, I would never forgive them, or trust them, and I would go out of my way to see them behind bars.

I just think the VS were shocked after just seeing a dead man, who is now working for the ememy. They called Shepard a God/Legend, I dont see how thats bad. They dont know what Cerberus could have done, I mean Miranda did speak of a control chip. Besides it can be implied Anderson doesn't trust Shepard, he wont tell Shepard anything about the VS, ''It's classified. I cant tell you anymore, not whilst you're working with Cerberus'' And he approved of the Horizon mission. And the VS confirmed to Anderson that Shepard was telling the truth, speak to him post Horizon about the VS.

Dude I said that the VS LI heard about the rumors that Shep was alive.... I never said anything about the "classified" conversation Anderson said to Shep.... you missread it

I know you didn't, I brought it up due to the fact everyone is so forgiving of Anderson, but point the finger at the VS. They were just doing what he told them to.

[Funkcase]

Xilizhra wrote...

Funkcase wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

A family member of mine was murdered by the IRA. If anyone I've ever known joined the IRA I would treat them worse, I would never forgive them, or trust them, and I would go out of my way to see them behind bars.

I don't think that fits, unless the IRA is fighting Cthulhu.

That wasn't the point I was trying to make, I meant I wouldn't forgive anyone who would work for a terrorist group.

Which is fine, except that this particular terrorist group in-game is spending most of its resources on fighting a much worse threat, something few IRL terrorist groups do.

I realise that, but the VS dont know how much Cerberus were helping, Shepard doesn't really explain anything to them.

[Omega4RelayResident]

Funkcase wrote...

Omega4RelayResident wrote...

Funkcase wrote...

Omega4RelayResident wrote...



I can understand people and all the sides you are arguing for... but I also want to know if anyone has ever lost someone the same way Kaidan / Ashley did. Not the exact same way to Collector surprise attacks. I just mean in general. Would you honestly react the same way the VS LI did?

A family member of mine was murdered by the IRA. If anyone I've ever known joined the IRA I would treat them worse, I would never forgive them, or trust them, and I would go out of my way to see them behind bars.

I just think the VS were shocked after just seeing a dead man, who is now working for the ememy. They called Shepard a God/Legend, I dont see how thats bad. They dont know what Cerberus could have done, I mean Miranda did speak of a control chip. Besides it can be implied Anderson doesn't trust Shepard, he wont tell Shepard anything about the VS, ''It's classified. I cant tell you anymore, not whilst you're working with Cerberus'' And he approved of the Horizon mission. And the VS confirmed to Anderson that Shepard was telling the truth, speak to him post Horizon about the VS.

Dude I said that the VS LI heard about the rumors that Shep was alive.... I never said anything about the "classified" conversation Anderson said to Shep.... you missread it

I know you didn't, I brought it up due to the fact everyone is so forgiving of Anderson, but point the finger at the VS. They were just doing what he told them to.

Oh okay... just making sure... I am trully sorry for your loss.

[Funkcase]

Omega4RelayResident wrote...

Funkcase wrote...

Omega4RelayResident wrote...

Funkcase wrote...

Omega4RelayResident wrote...



I can understand people and all the sides you are arguing for... but I also want to know if anyone has ever lost someone the same way Kaidan / Ashley did. Not the exact same way to Collector surprise attacks. I just mean in general. Would you honestly react the same way the VS LI did?

A family member of mine was murdered by the IRA. If anyone I've ever known joined the IRA I would treat them worse, I would never forgive them, or trust them, and I would go out of my way to see them behind bars.

I just think the VS were shocked after just seeing a dead man, who is now working for the ememy. They called Shepard a God/Legend, I dont see how thats bad. They dont know what Cerberus could have done, I mean Miranda did speak of a control chip. Besides it can be implied Anderson doesn't trust Shepard, he wont tell Shepard anything about the VS, ''It's classified. I cant tell you anymore, not whilst you're working with Cerberus'' And he approved of the Horizon mission. And the VS confirmed to Anderson that Shepard was telling the truth, speak to him post Horizon about the VS.

Dude I said that the VS LI heard about the rumors that Shep was alive.... I never said anything about the "classified" conversation Anderson said to Shep.... you missread it

I know you didn't, I brought it up due to the fact everyone is so forgiving of Anderson, but point the finger at the VS. They were just doing what he told them to.

Oh okay... just making sure... I am trully sorry for your loss.

Thank you, it was a long time ago though.

[AdmiralCheez]

Omega4RelayResident wrote...

@AdmiralCheez

IF the e-mail prompted Shep to have a private video conversation with the VS LI I would accept it and from there things might have gotten better. A simple e-mail doesnt cut it for me.

Well, blame TIM for not letting you reply to your emails.

I usually agree with you Admiral Cheez.... but what you are saying is wrong.... you are basically telling me I cant have the choice to play my canon Shep the way I want to.... I do not wish the same for you though.

Oh, you can play however you want.  I never said you can't.  Just saying that the VS obviously still cares about Shepard, and saying "it wasn't cheating" and "it's Kaidan/Ashley's fault for breaking my heart" is childish.