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[Draguling]

Seeing that there are books and such, which origin is canon? If I remember correctly, in Kotor, canon stated that it was a light sided male. Which is it in this game? 

[Mystranna Kelteel]

There is no canon.

[ReubenLiew]

I hope there isn't. Lucas seems to have a hard-on for making everything of his 'canon'. I don't see why this game cannot simply be whatever you played for yourself. This game should be personal to each and every person, not dictated by some higher power.

[Draguling]

Well seeing that there are novels being made, they have to pick one origin.

[Mystranna Kelteel]

No.

[ReubenLiew]

The novels are outside of the scope of the game itself. It's (so far) all taken place before the game itself.

[Draguling]

Thank you for that rather intelligent and elaborate answer.

ReubenLiew wrote...

The novels are outside of the scope of the game itself. It's (so far) all taken place before the game itself.

So is it with the expanded universe in Star Wars also, but I'm unsure to whether or not it really applies here. But KoTOR did have a canon.

Modifié par Draguling, 22 novembre 2009 - 12:44 .

[Mystranna Kelteel]

You're welcome.



Thank you for the amount of research you did into this topic before you came here.

[Draguling]

I looked through the wiki and I browsed through the forums, short of buying the novels there was not much else I could look into.

[Kalfear]

There is no cannon but having said that I feel secure in saying, If there was cannon it would be



Human, male Noble Warrior

Romance with Lelianna

Cheats on her to give Morrigan the god child

Puts Allistar on throne

Cures the Werewolves

Destroys the Anvil

Saves the mages

Doesnt Kill Flemeth (but does get Grimoire for Morrigan)

Harrowman (dwarf) as King

Saves Arl of Redcliff and child



Of all the games I played, thats the one that flows the most smoothly and "feels" like it would be cannon (if there was a cannon).

[sylkwyrm1]

it depends on how sequels are handled. if you can use old saves in order to set the stage there would be no reason for cannon, unless books set afterward are written i guess. if you can't then the writers are gonna have to say what happened and that would give birth to canon,



an example kinda would be kotor 2 it's set some years after 1 but you do get to set the stage basically yourself when you first meet atton, though it is limited to whether revan was male or female and whether s/he saved the republic or deposed malek as the dark lord of the sith (despite what lucas says).



an example of the other kind, pretty weak though considering it's an expansion pack would be nwn2 where, on beginning MotB, no matter whether you killed the king of shadows or replaced him it assumes you killed him, and this is with the same reloaded character mind you

[Mystranna Kelteel]

Funny, if I was to come up with a canon it would easily be a lesbian Dalish elf with Leliana who puts Anora on the throne. Now that's smooth.

[Draguling]

About KoTOR 1 and 2:

http://starwars.wiki...he_Old_Republic

"This is based on the canonical male light side version of the game." Due to the novels and whatnot that was made afterwards, even though you have the possibility to choose a dark sided revan in the beginning of the 2, conversation with Atton and such.

Who did the KoTOR canon anyway? Bioware? Lucas Arts? Obsidian?

Modifié par Draguling, 22 novembre 2009 - 12:50 .

[Kinaori]

sylkwyrm1 wrote...

it depends on how sequels are handled. if you can use old saves in order to set the stage there would be no reason for cannon, unless books set afterward are written i guess. if you can't then the writers are gonna have to say what happened and that would give birth to canon,

Yeah that was my thought too.  Since Morrigan seems to me to be the big "hook" and unanswered question at the end, my guess is that the ritual is at least 1 piece of what will be canon.

[frokenscheim]

As of this moment there simply is no canon, and, if they don't do a Mass Effect style continuation, I for one would love to see Bioware be clever and subtle and craft a sequel where any of the possibilities in the first game are viable.

[Reiella]

Draguling wrote...

Seeing that there are books and such, which origin is canon? If I remember correctly, in Kotor, canon stated that it was a light sided male. Which is it in this game? 

Human commoner.

[sylkwyrm1]

heh set far enough in the future and i'm sure there will be contradictive codex entries pointing to the pc being.

a mage

a dwarf

a male

a female

some sort of root vegetable, possibly a turnip



just like there are in game now about ancient history.

[Draguling]

Reiella wrote...
Human commoner.

Damn, my money was on human barbarian.

[Suaine]

Kinaori wrote...

sylkwyrm1 wrote...

it depends on how sequels are handled. if you can use old saves in order to set the stage there would be no reason for cannon, unless books set afterward are written i guess. if you can't then the writers are gonna have to say what happened and that would give birth to canon,

Yeah that was my thought too.  Since Morrigan seems to me to be the big "hook" and unanswered question at the end, my guess is that the ritual is at least 1 piece of what will be canon.

But Morrigan is only a big hook/unanswered question when you do the ritual, isn't she? (I haven't yet played it any other way because the thought of my character or Alistair sacrificing themselves or of letting Loghain live only to make him do it upsets me more than it should)

[Red Viking]

Well, the trailers have already set a precedent that the PC was a male human noble warrior if you ask me.

[Varenus Luckmann]

All of them.

[Draguling]

Baldurs Gate had a canon.

[Beechwell]

Kalfear wrote...
Human, male Noble Warrior

Rather mage. Look at the tower of Ishal, where in all non-mage games some mage companion appears out of nowhere, rather than the two regular guards you would expect.
Also female. Look at the "conception scene" with Morrigan shies away from here. That fits much more to Alister than the PC, does it not?

Romance with Lelianna

Possibly - or with Alister. Both are about equally engaing I would think.

Puts Allistar on throne

I say: Puts Alister+Anora on the throne. makes the most sense, succession wise.




Of course this isn't really serious. More to show how subjective these things are.

[0utlier]

My guess is any sequels will be in Antiva/Orlais/anywhere else in the world and anything Ferelden related will only be mentioned in passing

[Kinaori]

Suaine wrote...
But Morrigan is only a big hook/unanswered question when you do the ritual, isn't she? (I haven't yet played it any other way because the thought of my character or Alistair sacrificing themselves or of letting Loghain live only to make him do it upsets me more than it should)

True, but the story fodder of what becomes of that child is just too awesome and huge.  It's also a yummy opportunity to besmirch our heroes and make it even more "all shades of grey".  Dark fantasy and all that

I read somewhere too that even if you don't do the ritual she vanishes anyway, and something about a kid?  Not sure on that one as I haven't played that ending yet.

In any case, ritual or no, *we never find out what she learned from Flemeth's journal*.  That is also a big hanging thing out there.  (Or *blush* do we?  Maybe I just didn't question her enough.)

Modifié par Kinaori, 22 novembre 2009 - 01:29 .