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[JimiShep]

    Admiral Hackett- Actions Surrounding the Arrival DLC and Future Story

    I'd like to offer you my theory concerning Adm. Hackett enjoy…

    In Arrival we are contacted by Adm. Hackett, who was/(is?) in command of the Fifth Fleet. He and his fleet had first hand contact in dealing with a Reaper. It was not TIM that sends you on this mission instead you are contacted by Adm. Hackett. He explains that Dr. Kenson, who is under his command, has been captured by Batarians. In the Process of saving her Shepard learns about Project Rho… now hold on lets discuss project Rho

    It looks like they have had a lot of time setting this thing up… It's a base built into an asteroid. Who knows how many months or maybe even years it took. Artifact Rho was not the first artifact found by the Alliance…  in ME Revelations Dr. Shu Quin found an artifact and along with the Alliance conducted illegal research. Could the Alliance have gotten inside info to where another reaper artifact was located by the original Artifact found? I don't think so. They were using that Artifact to advance AI research. (Maybe Early EDI stuff) Could they have gotten a vision from the remains of Sovereign implicating where another Artifact was located? Hmmmm…  Who else had the most access to the debris after the battle of the citadel was over…. of coarse the fifth fleet, under Adm. Hackett. Could Adm. Hackett have started a military research project to aid Shepard in the up coming war? I believe so, and I would argue that the Alliance would keep all of this a secret. It would make sense why the Shadow Broker was so interesting in Adm. Hackett. (He was researching the remains of a reaper) It would also not be the first time Alliance command was withholding major information from the council races.

                        I don't fully believe that they could have gotten all the info from Sovereign remains but they must have gotten the information from somewhere.

    After learning about Artifact Rho they set up the base and in the process get indoctrinated! Sounds interesting, now on a side note- Top Alliance command were involved in a plan to run an asteroid into a Mass Relay! They were already planning on Massive Batarian casualties. (This will be brought up later)   

    Back to Arrival! Shepard frees Dr. Kenson and learns that they have a Reaper Artifact, cool "Why was this not mentioned to Shepard by Hackett?" He is the leader of the covert Alliance project! Whatever minor point. Shepard now learns that everyone at Project Rho has been indoctrinated. After being introduced to the artifact, either the guards or the Reaper Artifact overpower Shepard and he is sent to the med bay. Isn't this the exact position Harbinger wants Shepard to be in? "Preserve Shepard's body, if possible"
    
    The Reapers are in complete control right now! Why would the Indoctrinated Alliance Team disassemble the project now? In the eyes of the Reaper's they have complete control over the situation. They know that the Alliance is no longer a threat to their Arrival and it's icing on the cake that they have Shepard in Med Bay. (I know I will get a lot of crap for this, but I don't care) It makes sense that the Reapers would act like this…. they have doing this for at least 37 million years! What they do not expect is Shepard… he wakes up and again foils their Arrival plan. This could be one of the reasons why the Reapers are so focused on Shepard. I got the feeling that in the beginning of ME2 the main Reaper interest was in Humanity as a whole and now after Arrival it feels more centered around Shepard…. How could this Human stand in the way of inevitability and constantly succeed?
    
    In the process of delaying the Reaper invasion Shepard destroys a Mass Relay and a system. This event killed 300,000 Batarians! This happens no matter what… it is assumed that every player played the Arrival DLC in ME3. This is how we get Shepard to come back to the Earth for the Invasion of the Reaper Fleet. Most people think that this is terrible writing, but I offer you a different point of view on this matter all together.

    When Shepard gets back to the Normandy he is confronted by Adm. Hackett, the same man in charge of Project Rho. When offered evidence from Shepard, surrounding the events of Project Rho, Adm. Hackett does not take it and assures that Shepard's word is enough evidence for him?!?!?!?! Isn't this really important evidence?? This could be used in a trial… that maybe Shepard has to report to?!? Adm. Hackett could be doing one of a few things here-      1. Covering his own ass by blaming Shepard for the events of Arrival.
    2. Maybe he is being honest and really takes Shepard for his/her word.
    3. Luring Shepard back to Earth for the Reaper invasion!!! I'd like to talk about this one…

    We know that Reaper Tech causes Indoctrination… We also know that even dead Reapers can indoctrinate people…. If an Alliance covert ops team was testing parts of Sovereign, could they become indoctrinated in the process??? I say possibly…  Would the leader of such an organization and a person who knows the Reapers are real be there in person to over see the operations??? Sensible.. right? What if Adm. Hackett is indeed indoctrinated!! He is the one that sent you after Dr. Kenson to begin with right? The Reapers used Shepard's friendship (sort of) with Hackett to get him on that asteroid. Why go searching for an individual that might be anywhere in the galaxy when he could be delivered on a silver plater to Reapers door steps? When that plan failed, Hackett (Harbinger) told Shepard there will be a trial for his actions…. Getting him in the next best place for the Reaper Arrival. EARTH! Make no mistakes the Reapers want Shepard!

    The trial is happening no matter what, but really why? If you think that the Alliance is going to go easy on Shepard you might be in for a treat! The last thing the Alliance wants is a war with the Batarians… They are probably going to deny everything that Shepard says to save their own asses. No matter how the trial goes, an Alliance covert ops team set up a base on an asteroid to destroy a Mass Relay. They do not want this information to get out at all! This would totally be a reason for the Batarians to go to war. What most likely will happen is that the Alliance will blame Shepard and Cerberus for the destruction of a whole system. Now that would set up an interesting plot where now along with Cerberus you don't trust the Systems Alliance…

    Another theory that I have is based on the GreyBox… what if the GreyBox contained information regarding the testing of the Reaper remains by the SA. If the rest of the galaxy got wind of this the Alliance would be in for some major trouble. They are withholding vital information on the Reapers that can confirm Shepard's story to the rest of the Council races. In a way they are only adding to Shepard's troubles by sitting on this information. It might also contain details surrounding Project Rho and the SA don't want that information in the hands of the Batarians.

[Soccer FeverMan]

im not reading that

[Knight of Dane]

Soccer FeverMan wrote...

im not reading that

[JimiShep]

Why?

[JimiShep]

Thank you for taking the time to read it!

[Kyria Nyriese]

Well I don't know about Hacket being indoctrinated, however, I do think Shepard was most definitely set up in Arrival. Felt that way from the time I first got the mission. Why else did Shepard have to go by himself?

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

. Artifact Rho was not the first artifact found by the Alliance… in ME Revelations Dr. Shu Quin found an artifact and along with the Alliance conducted illegal research.

Just a note, that 'artifact' was in fact, Sovereign.


Interesting theory. I was under the impression that Hackett didn't know what Kenson was doing as it was a covert operation. What was strange to be is that Kenson could have disabled shepard on the shuttle once they got away from the prison.

[DarthSliver]

Interesting Theory here

[Izhalezan]

Shinian2 wrote...



Interesting theory. I was under the impression that Hackett didn't know what Kenson was doing as it was a covert operation. What was strange to be is that Kenson could have disabled shepard on the shuttle once they got away from the prison.

With what? the batarians took everything she had and you gave her a mere pistol, if she decided to assume direct control right there she wouldve met mr shotgun.

[el master pr]

I disagree with the indoctrinated Hackett theory. Something tells me Hackett really had no idea what Kenson was up to. He knew that she had found irrefutable evidence against the Reapers, which is why he contacted Shepard specifically. I may be wrong, however.

As for the graybox, its contents have been discussed in other threats. Visual evidence has been shown that it contained pictures of a Reaper, apparently Sovereign. This leads me to believe that it contains details about Dr. Shu Qian's research into said Reaper. Should this be true, you are right!

[Xenonofied]

I felt like I was getting set up in this mission as well. I mean as soon as I heard "no squad" I thought something weirds going on. Not sure about the Heckett indoctrination, he seemed fairly genuine to me personally.

[Sebby]

Hackett knew full well what was going on with the "Project". There's an audio log in the prison that talks about the Batarians intercepting transmissions between them and the Alliance.

This is the same guy who manipulated Shepard to do his dirty work through-out the ME1 side missions.

[didymos1120]

JimiShep wrote...

  in ME Revelations Dr. Shu Quin found an artifact and along with the Alliance conducted illegal research.

No, he didn't find a thing.  Sovereign was found by some unknown batarians who worked for Edan Haddah, another batarian.  He eventually hired Qian on the sly for his AI expertise, and only with great reluctance.  The Alliance had nothing to do with either the discovery or study of it. 

[Nashiktal]

Izhalezan wrote...

Shinian2 wrote...



Interesting theory. I was under the impression that Hackett didn't know what Kenson was doing as it was a covert operation. What was strange to be is that Kenson could have disabled shepard on the shuttle once they got away from the prison.

With what? the batarians took everything she had and you gave her a mere pistol, if she decided to assume direct control right there she wouldve met mr shotgun.

She could have easily took shep by surprise. Put the gun under the kinetic barriers, and blam shep is out for the count, at least temporarily.

Then again, we wouldn't have gotten that nice waved combat near the artifact.

[didymos1120]

JimiShep wrote...

Shepard frees Dr. Kenson and learns that they have a Reaper Artifact, cool "Why was this not mentioned to Shepard by Hackett?"

Um, it was?

Not just once:

I'd heard she was investigating a rumor of a Reaper artifact in the system. Her last report said she'd found it.

But twice:

Kenson's team found an artifact out in batarian space. She believes it's a Reaper device, proof that the Reapers are indeed planning to invade.

Modifié par didymos1120, 11 septembre 2011 - 05:41 .

[ThePwener]

An indoctrinated Hackett theory? Really?

The record goes....

1. Indoc. Shepard
2. Indoc. Council
3. Indoc. Squadmates
4. indoc. TIM
5. Indoc. VS
6. Indoc. Liara
7. Indoc. SR-2 crew
8. Indoc. Cerberus
9. Indoc. Alliance
10. Indoc. Batarians (all of them apperantly)
11. Indoc. Everything!

EDIT: The only thing left is for the Reapers to have Indoctrinated each other. Wouldn't that be a twist......

Modifié par ThePwener, 11 septembre 2011 - 05:45 .

[Guywhoiam]

I like your idea and all, but I think it would be better if the Reapers had indoctrinated each other. I don't know how it would work, though. I saw someone else posted that somewhere, and I think it would be a great twist.

Modifié par weirdopo, 11 septembre 2011 - 05:57 .

[ThePwener]

weirdopo wrote...

I like your idea and all, but I think it would be better if the Reapers had indoctrinated each other. I don't know how it would work, but I think I someone else posted that somewhere, and I think it would be a twist.

Someone seriously made a theory on that? I just wrote that as a joke. Gotta love this place.

[Guywhoiam]

ThePwener wrote...

weirdopo wrote...

I like your idea and all, but I think it would be better if the Reapers had indoctrinated each other. I don't know how it would work, but I think I someone else posted that somewhere, and I think it would be a twist.

Someone seriously made a theory on that? I just wrote that as a joke. Gotta love this place.

I was actually just making a joke on your joke.

I don't know if someone really said that or not.

Modifié par weirdopo, 11 septembre 2011 - 05:59 .

[ThePwener]

weirdopo wrote...

ThePwener wrote...

weirdopo wrote...

I like your idea and all, but I think it would be better if the Reapers had indoctrinated each other. I don't know how it would work, but I think I someone else posted that somewhere, and I think it would be a twist.

Someone seriously made a theory on that? I just wrote that as a joke. Gotta love this place.

I was actually just making a joke on your joke.

I don't know if someone really said that or not.

Oh.... that makes sense.

[Major Tao]

 JImiShep wrote:  "The trial is happening no matter what, but really why? If you think that the Alliance is going to go easy on Shepard you might be in for a treat! The last thing the Alliance wants is a war with the Batarians… They are probably going to deny everything that Shepard says to save their own asses. No matter how the trial goes, an Alliance covert ops team set up a base on an asteroid to destroy a Mass Relay. They do not want this information to get out at all! This would totally be a reason for the Batarians to go to war. What most likely will happen is that the Alliance will blame Shepard and Cerberus for the destruction of a whole system. Now that would set up an interesting plot where now along with Cerberus you don't trust the Systems Alliance…

    Another theory that I have is based on the GreyBox… what if the GreyBox contained information regarding the testing of the Reaper remains by the SA. If the rest of the galaxy got wind of this the Alliance would be in for some major trouble. They are withholding vital information on the Reapers that can confirm Shepard's story to the rest of the Council races. In a way they are only adding to Shepard's troubles by sitting on this information. It might also contain details surrounding Project Rho and the SA don't want that information in the hands of the Batarians. "

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Admiral Hackett, - how I wonder about you.  

Admiral Hackett commands the 5th Fleet, and clearly has ties to intelligence and special forces. 
He's called upon Commander Shepard (  as a Spectre ! ) numerous times to to "take care of"  risky covert operations; from hostage rescue, terrorist elimination, search and destroy missions,  and finding wayward nukes. 

The Admiral is a great character, and though he appears to be Alliance through and through, I've suspected that he may be a covert sponsor of Cerberus.  * I base this upon the unknown Admiral who apparently sponsored the Rachni cloning experiments - and who was sent a "final report" from a derelict freighter-base found adrift in Mass Effect 1. 

Alliance NPC's don't have to be indoctrinated to support Cerberus - we've met many characters who feel that humanity is overtly threatened, and out numbered in galaxy full of alien races - even without the Reaper threat. 
Navigator Pressly,  Chief Williams, and Rear Admiral Mikhailovich all express distrust and suspicion over alien species motivations. 

I really like Admiral Hackett and Mr. Henriksen does a fine job of bringing him to life - with gravitas ! 

The Admiralty Board hearing ( or trial ) is where the s#it hits the fan - fo' sure !  

Will Admiral Hackett have to disavow Commander Shepard ? 
If this is an Admiralty Board Hearing  - who will be the one stating the charges ? 
Will Captain Anderson -be acting as JAG officer for defense ? 

Will there be a backroom deal offered ? 

Scenario:  In the Back Room - early morning - before the Admiralty Board Hearing.

Admiral Mikhailovich: "Commander, if you keep your mouth SHUT and accept a public conviction ( crucifixion ) - as a war criminial - you'll only lose your Alliance rank, pension, citizenship, and face the firing squad at dawn.

However - IF  you start spouting off about Alliance secrets - we're going to do something EVEN WORSE to you - and then we'll go after your friends, family,  lovers and allies too !"

Commander Shepard:  "That's a choice ?"

Admiral Mikhailovich:  "Shepard - you've left the Alliance in a HELL of a position - what else can we do ? 
We're likely to end up in a war with the Batarians anyway over this.... this INCREDIBLE ATROCITY you've committed....and I don't want to hear any B.S. about the Reapers... !  

Commander Shepard:   "You know DAMN WELL they're real Admiral ! 
                                       Admiral Hackett - you've been awfully quiet..- don't you have anything to say in my defense ?"

Admiral Hackett:  "Of course we know the Reapers are real Commander.  But - officially our hands are tied.  
My colleague Admiral Mikhailovich and I have been ordered - from the TOP - to officially deny that the Reapers are coming.  

Admiral Mikhailovich:  "Steven - did you HAVE to tell him ?"

Admiral Hackett:     " Piotr - The Commander deserves to know how things are going down.  
The fix is in Commander - you're the official scapegoat. If we can make it look convincing that you were a rogue agent - the Alliance might still be able to avoid war with the Batarians."

Commander Shepard:  "But.. - the Reapers are COMING !!!"

Admiral Hackett:   "If we announce that an unstoppable force of ancient alien Berserkers is on it's way to wipe out all life in the Milky Way - Galactic civilization will collapse OVERNIGHT !    Chaos, rioting, looting, and madness will disrupt attempts to mount coordinated defenses. Millions who might be able to fight - will die needlessly !
  It is NECESSARY - to leave the civilian population in the dark.  After all Commander - where will civilians be able to hide ?

Commander Shepard:   "When the Reapers emerge from Darkspace they will attack EVERYONE !   BATARIANS AND HUMANS !   - So this trial is a FARCE !" 

Admiral Hackett:   "Agreed.  This process is a farce and I deeply regret that I've been ordered to play a part in it." 

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Footnote:   ( I made up a first name for Admiral Mikhailovich - since no first name has yet been disclosed ). 

[ThePwener]

^Im definetly not reading that.....

[didymos1120]

Major_Tao_Tau wrote...

* I base this upon the unknown Admiral who apparently sponsored the Rachni cloning experiments - and who was sent a "final report" from a derelict freighter-base found adrift in Mass Effect 1.

The term of rank used was "General", not "Admiral".

[ThePwener]

didymos1120 wrote...

Major_Tao_Tau wrote...

* I base this upon the unknown Admiral who apparently sponsored the Rachni cloning experiments - and who was sent a "final report" from a derelict freighter-base found adrift in Mass Effect 1.

The term of rank used was "General", not "Admiral".

Correct. We never did found out who that was. I think that was to be the original TIM before BW decided to make them the centerfold of ME2 and give them a proper role outside sidequests. That's how I picked it up anyway.