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desertbird92 wrote...

Personally I don't believe that Hackett, is involved with any Cerberus matters or even indoctrinated. Like others though, I do believe that the events directly after the destruction of the mass relay are suspicious. Given that Hackett approached Shepard in a discrete manner ( i.e. asking for a favor), I don't understand how Shepard can be officially blamed for what s/he did. To clarify, there shouldn't be any records indicating that Shepard was even in that system around the time that it was whiped off of the galactic map (apart from the report that Hackett refuses to read). So why is it that Shepard must face trial?


Well the simple answer would be... to have a reason why Shepard is back on Earth for when the Reapers invade.

I still do not trust Hackett or the Alliance when concerning the Reapers, but if Hackett is the one commanding the galaxy at war part of ME3 then my theory has been shut down as to him being indoctrinated. Oh well it was just an interesting idea.

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Thompson family wrote...

The Spectres whole purpose is to
maintain galactic order. Blowing up a whole system and killing 300K
Batarians and their slaves, bringing a Council species to the point of
war, is not what Spectres are supposed to do.

The very fact that we know, beyond any doubt, that ME3 will begin with
Shep appearing for a trial — hearing, court-martial, inquest, whatever —
is the self-evident and irrefutable proof that he/she has submitted to
Alliance authority (willingly or unwillingly) and that the Council has
not intervened


Sethan_1 wrote...

Shepard's Spectre status will protect
him as long as he has it - the Council may well throw him under a bus,
but until they do Shepard isn't subject to Alliance legal jurisdiction.


^I agree  with the statements above and some others. Again The Allience has been dying to get their hands on Shepard and figure out what he/she has been doing. Once again I will post that link...
masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Shadow_Broker_Dossiers/Admiral_Steven_Hackett
I find it amusing saying they will release Shep 5 to 7 months later after being questioned:D Wow it takes that long to question someone?!
The Council probably will want to question Shep in private to explain his/her actions before they decide to throw him/her under a bus. Except during the investigation that The Allience has been waiting impatiently to do the Repears show up. The Council gives you the option of keeping your Spectre status or you can still deny it. Plus you get the satisfaction of I told you so. I can't wait for the Turian Councilor:devil: The Allience are douches in my opinion but I firmly believe Hackett is on your side. The Allience is up to something for sure and they want to keep it hidden. Except most Allience will be dead by the end of the war.

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DTA: Don't Trust Anyone. It's not paranoia if they're really after you.

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To Silverpearl... that is an awesome link. Thank you for posting it, but I disagree with Hackett being on your side still. I feel like the SA wanted to learn about Cerberus just as much as Shepard's actions.

It would take a few months to ask all of the questions the loyal SA needed to ask about Cereberus! I really feel like Hackett denied bringing in Shepard because Hackett indeed does work for Cerberus

edit... I just read it again and maybe it's SA Cerberus supporters trying to bring him in. This makes a little more sense

Modifié par JimiShep, 02 novembre 2011 - 06:26 .


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JimiShep wrote...

To Silverpearl... that is an awesome link. Thank you for posting it, but I disagree with Hackett being on your side still. I feel like the SA wanted to learn about Cerberus just as much as Shepard's actions.

It would take a few months to ask all of the questions the loyal SA needed to ask about Cereberus! I really feel like Hackett denied bringing in Shepard because Hackett indeed does work for Cerberus

edit... I just read it again and maybe it's SA Cerberus supporters trying to bring him in. This makes a little more sense


Ok I'm playing Arrival right now and we are heading to the main base on Arcturus Station
where Object Rho is and again here is the letter to David Anderson from Arcturus Station

masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Shadow_Broker_Dossiers/Captain_David_Anderson

You totally could be right about Hackett. We know the VS has been investigating Cerberus right? I want to believe Hackett is on our side but we will see. All I know is the Allience is up to something. Also under Hackett Shadow Broker files it says this.......Commanding Officer of the Alliance Navy's Fifth Fleet. Worked with Commander Shepard before destruction of the Normandy SR-1. A deep-cover operative is scheduled to replace his current aide in two months. So did the Shadow Broker plant an agent? Was it a Cerberus/Shadow Broker dbl agent like Feron was? Does Hackett know about this?? Just food for thought!

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We will know when we get our hands on either Demo version or the Game it self, but till then we can only speculate.
And I wouldn't be surprised if some of those speculations turned out to be true or in the worse case scenario, nothing speculated here will be true and we may be surprised how the game it self begins.

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Major Antella: Request Denied.
I bet this someone was proper pissed when he or she received this from Hackett.

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Silverpearl1977 wrote...
Ok I'm playing Arrival right now and we are heading to the main base on Arcturus Station

Object Rho was not on Arcturus Station. That's the Alliance's main space station guarding the Arcturus relay. Object Rho was on an asteroid.

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chumble182 wrote...

Silverpearl1977 wrote...
Ok I'm playing Arrival right now and we are heading to the main base on Arcturus Station

Object Rho was not on Arcturus Station. That's the Alliance's main space station guarding the Arcturus relay. Object Rho was on an asteroid.


Go to 4:27 on the vid she says when we get to Arcturus Station where I assume they are heading even though it is on an Asteroid. Unless she meant go to Asteroid first and then to Arcturus Station afterwards?? Ugh confusing!!
www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par Silverpearl1977, 02 novembre 2011 - 11:30 .


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How about she is going to a big chunk of rock with reaper lust device on it, what about this?

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Admiral Hackett is leading the ME3 MP teams against the Reapers. Casey Hudson said so in his interview with Official Xbox Magazine. Hackett is on Shepard's side.

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Hackett is on Shepard's side, and if so that maybe rules him out as a traitor, so who can it be?

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JimiShep wrote...

    Admiral Hackett- Actions Surrounding the Arrival DLC and Future Story

    I'd like to offer you my theory concerning Adm. Hackett enjoy…

    In Arrival we are contacted by Adm. Hackett, who was/(is?) in command of the Fifth Fleet. He and his fleet had first hand contact in dealing with a Reaper. It was not TIM that sends you on this mission instead you are contacted by Adm. Hackett. He explains that Dr. Kenson, who is under his command, has been captured by Batarians. In the Process of saving her Shepard learns about Project Rho… now hold on lets discuss project Rho

    It looks like they have had a lot of time setting this thing up… It's a base built into an asteroid. Who knows how many months or maybe even years it took. Artifact Rho was not the first artifact found by the Alliance…  in ME Revelations Dr. Shu Quin found an artifact and along with the Alliance conducted illegal research. Could the Alliance have gotten inside info to where another reaper artifact was located by the original Artifact found? I don't think so. They were using that Artifact to advance AI research. (Maybe Early EDI stuff) Could they have gotten a vision from the remains of Sovereign implicating where another Artifact was located? Hmmmm…  Who else had the most access to the debris after the battle of the citadel was over…. of coarse the fifth fleet, under Adm. Hackett. Could Adm. Hackett have started a military research project to aid Shepard in the up coming war? I believe so, and I would argue that the Alliance would keep all of this a secret. It would make sense why the Shadow Broker was so interesting in Adm. Hackett. (He was researching the remains of a reaper) It would also not be the first time Alliance command was withholding major information from the council races.

                        I don't fully believe that they could have gotten all the info from Sovereign remains but they must have gotten the information from somewhere.

    After learning about Artifact Rho they set up the base and in the process get indoctrinated! Sounds interesting, now on a side note- Top Alliance command were involved in a plan to run an asteroid into a Mass Relay! They were already planning on Massive Batarian casualties. (This will be brought up later)   

    Back to Arrival! Shepard frees Dr. Kenson and learns that they have a Reaper Artifact, cool "Why was this not mentioned to Shepard by Hackett?" He is the leader of the covert Alliance project! Whatever minor point. Shepard now learns that everyone at Project Rho has been indoctrinated. After being introduced to the artifact, either the guards or the Reaper Artifact overpower Shepard and he is sent to the med bay. Isn't this the exact position Harbinger wants Shepard to be in? "Preserve Shepard's body, if possible"
    
    The Reapers are in complete control right now! Why would the Indoctrinated Alliance Team disassemble the project now? In the eyes of the Reaper's they have complete control over the situation. They know that the Alliance is no longer a threat to their Arrival and it's icing on the cake that they have Shepard in Med Bay. (I know I will get a lot of crap for this, but I don't care) It makes sense that the Reapers would act like this…. they have doing this for at least 37 million years! What they do not expect is Shepard… he wakes up and again foils their Arrival plan. This could be one of the reasons why the Reapers are so focused on Shepard. I got the feeling that in the beginning of ME2 the main Reaper interest was in Humanity as a whole and now after Arrival it feels more centered around Shepard…. How could this Human stand in the way of inevitability and constantly succeed?
    
    In the process of delaying the Reaper invasion Shepard destroys a Mass Relay and a system. This event killed 300,000 Batarians! This happens no matter what… it is assumed that every player played the Arrival DLC in ME3. This is how we get Shepard to come back to the Earth for the Invasion of the Reaper Fleet. Most people think that this is terrible writing, but I offer you a different point of view on this matter all together.

    When Shepard gets back to the Normandy he is confronted by Adm. Hackett, the same man in charge of Project Rho. When offered evidence from Shepard, surrounding the events of Project Rho, Adm. Hackett does not take it and assures that Shepard's word is enough evidence for him?!?!?!?! Isn't this really important evidence?? This could be used in a trial… that maybe Shepard has to report to?!? Adm. Hackett could be doing one of a few things here-      1. Covering his own ass by blaming Shepard for the events of Arrival.
    2. Maybe he is being honest and really takes Shepard for his/her word.
    3. Luring Shepard back to Earth for the Reaper invasion!!! I'd like to talk about this one…

    We know that Reaper Tech causes Indoctrination… We also know that even dead Reapers can indoctrinate people…. If an Alliance covert ops team was testing parts of Sovereign, could they become indoctrinated in the process??? I say possibly…  Would the leader of such an organization and a person who knows the Reapers are real be there in person to over see the operations??? Sensible.. right? What if Adm. Hackett is indeed indoctrinated!! He is the one that sent you after Dr. Kenson to begin with right? The Reapers used Shepard's friendship (sort of) with Hackett to get him on that asteroid. Why go searching for an individual that might be anywhere in the galaxy when he could be delivered on a silver plater to Reapers door steps? When that plan failed, Hackett (Harbinger) told Shepard there will be a trial for his actions…. Getting him in the next best place for the Reaper Arrival. EARTH! Make no mistakes the Reapers want Shepard!

    The trial is happening no matter what, but really why? If you think that the Alliance is going to go easy on Shepard you might be in for a treat! The last thing the Alliance wants is a war with the Batarians… They are probably going to deny everything that Shepard says to save their own asses. No matter how the trial goes, an Alliance covert ops team set up a base on an asteroid to destroy a Mass Relay. They do not want this information to get out at all! This would totally be a reason for the Batarians to go to war. What most likely will happen is that the Alliance will blame Shepard and Cerberus for the destruction of a whole system. Now that would set up an interesting plot where now along with Cerberus you don't trust the Systems Alliance…

    Another theory that I have is based on the GreyBox… what if the GreyBox contained information regarding the testing of the Reaper remains by the SA. If the rest of the galaxy got wind of this the Alliance would be in for some major trouble. They are withholding vital information on the Reapers that can confirm Shepard's story to the rest of the Council races. In a way they are only adding to Shepard's troubles by sitting on this information. It might also contain details surrounding Project Rho and the SA don't want that information in the hands of the Batarians.


tl;dr

Basically, even if there was some super conspiracy, I highly HIGHLY doubt ME3 will even barely touch on it. Can't detract from the shooting and action and explosions!

From ME1 to ME2, the series became more about shooting and straight-forward encounters, and begun ditching the slightly more complicated scenarios. Kids these days want to shoot things, they don't want to think, so, using this logic, expect there to be no *Major* revelations with regards to any secondary characters like Hackett.

There will be no "OMG Hackett and TIM are actually working together because of X" - it's gonna be "Oh **** Hackett just died in that big explosion! Now, how can i gather allys to fight the Reapers, fail, then find the Big Super-Badass Reaper destroying Weapon and travel through the Citadel into Dark Space, kill the main Reaper boss, which i turn shuts down ALL the other Reapers hence saving the day... and maybe I can sacrfice myself in some daring attempt to save my crew.

There will be little to no illusive character arcs, no real suspence or drama, no back-alley encounters. Drew was the only writer really capable of pulling that stuff off. No, expect ME3 to be like one of the novels. Mind-numbingly straight-forward with no real afterthought. :bandit:

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CptBomBom00 wrote...

Hackett is on Shepard's side, and if so that maybe rules him out as a traitor, so who can it be?


I say TIM.

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I've got to go back to Admiral Kahotu in ME1. Why was he having such a problem getting anyone to investigate Edolus? Basically WHO was blocking the investigation? TIM? Personally no, but through someone else? Hackett? Maybe. Why don't I trust him? Shepard has to stop being such a chump. (S)he was set up with this blowing up the relay thing.

So I'm guessing Anderson gets a field promotion to Admiral, and since all the flimsy evidence against Shepard will be destroyed in the Reaper attack, Shepard will essentially be recalled to duty, and if still a Spectre? Without any convincing evidence against Shepard the Council will have no way of making any charges stick -- it will be like the first hearing with Saren. Going in alone to the asteroid meant no witnesses. Shepard can put anything (s)he wants in the report.

So my bet is on Hackett as the mole.

Modifié par sH0tgUn jUliA, 02 novembre 2011 - 07:47 .


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My theory is that Admiral Hackett didn't have too much involvement in the project for fears of Batarian political blowback.

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It's hard to say whether Admiral Hackett is indoctrinated or not.  I have a sneaking suspicion that he might be.  Even Anderson was saying when the Reapers arrived "Why haven't we heard from Admiral Hackett."  The game also makes it very clear that Liara was told by Admiral Hackett to find a way to stop the Reapers.  Shepard then seems to think that the weapon may be too good to be true.  Despite the ending, I think that the writers might reveal that the Crucible is just another set up by the Reapers.  A perfect deep cover agent might even do things that oppose the Reapers, after all that is what "a perfect deep cover agent" is - someone that you would never suspect to betray you.  Hackett also seems like a likely target for indoctrination.

Modifié par liggy002, 30 mars 2012 - 01:21 .