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[mulder1199]

i was going to take jenkins under my wing, but he went and tried to prove himself and got dead...

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

I would probably go with Thane, Garrus would be a bit too...shooty.....Thane has no problems killing anyone,but wouldn't just go around murdering without cause.

Jacob would end up cowering behind a wall because some volus are throwing rocks at him.

[Dunmer of Redoran]

Skullheart wrote...

Grunt: Too young, and lacks mental capaity to be a spectre. He is good at killing things, but you need someone near hm to tell him what to kill..

Give him some time and he'll think like the older krogan. He's not dumb, he's just aggressive. As he gets older and cools down, he'd be a great weapon of intimidation for the Council to send out on targets whenever a shakedown is needed.

[AcidRelic]

Garrus or Wrex. To me both have experience leading people and to a point diplomatic qualities. They both are badass in combat and have intellect.

[Made Nightwing]

LadyofRivendell wrote...

I'd say Garrus. He's got the leadership, independence, and quick thinking that would make him a good candidate. And if i remember correctly, he said he had already been considered for it but opted out on taking the special training because of his father.

Liara wouldn't be half bad, but she's got her Shadow Broker gig keeping her busy.

Kasumi, too, I could see being a decent Spectre. But if you tell her to save the Grey Box in her Loyalty Mission, she says that she pretty much wants to fall off the radar. I don't think being a Spectre would help with that (or would it?).

I don't really think either VS would make a good Spectre. Kaidan's too soft spoken and doesn't seem like much of a leader. Ashley needs to work on her politics. So I'm curious to see how this gets fleshed out in ME3.

Have to disagree with you on that one. Not sure if you've ever served, but Kaidan's personality type is exactly what the military looks for when selecting officer candidates. Calm, level-headed, always thinks things through, but has the guts to react on instinct when he needs to (killing Vyrnnus in self-defence). Additionally, he doesn't have a very big ego. And when you're fighting through a war zone, trying to complete your objective without getting killed, you want someone leading you who's not out for personal glory, but is just looking to get the job done and go home.

Just because you're soft-spoken doesn't mean that you're a pansy. Audie Murphy was very soft spoken...and he killed two hundred Germans in a single battle.

[Caihn]

Garrus, Miranda and Kaidan are the only squad members I can imagine as Spectre.

[100k]

Skullheart wrote...

Tali: Worst leader ever, got almost all of her squad killed in Freedom Progress.

Liara: She's good being the SB. Her personality don't have to change again to be a Spectre.

Wrex: He wated at first to use Saren's cure. Maybe he could be a good candidate in something
like a few hundred years (when he gains recpect by uniting the krogans).

Jack: Wanted criminal, She don't care about the galaxy at all.

Samara: She already have her own code, and I don't think she is interested on being a Spectre.

Thane: He has enough skills to be one,but according to him he is just something like a weapon, a don't think by himself.

Legion: No comments....

Zaeed: Too selfish, he put a refinery on fire, ignoring his original objective by his selfish desire of revenge.

Kasumi: She has stealth an tech skills, but I don't see her as a combatient one, andI don't think that she could ever want to be a spectre.

Mordin: He is a scientist,and besides that, he is too old to be a Spectre now.

Grunt: Too young, and lacks mental capaity to be a spectre. He is good at killing things, but you need someone near hm to tell him what to kill.

Jacob: He has enough merit to be a Spectre (saved the council once). His combat skills are good enough, and he can think like a Spectre. But the thing that is pulling him down is to no believe in himself, he need more confidence in himself.

Miranda: She could be the perfect candidate as Spectre. Good biotics, good tech skills, good leadership, smart and clever. She also is ruthless and lives in a "grey zone" of morality. But, she would neve be interested on being a Spectre, because she doesn't need to be one to achieve her missions and goals.

Garrus: The perfect candidate to be a Spectre. He caused problems to the three mayor mercenary groups on Omega, he is in the grey zone. His combat skills are more than enough.

So that is, for me Garrus is the ideal spectre. And about the VS being Spectre, I'm ok with Kaidan, but not for Ash being one.

Pretty much this. Jacob, Miranda, and Garrus are the only real Spectre material people. I would've originally put down Zaeed, but he is already considering retirement, and just prefers to take checks than assist the galaxy.

[Arkitekt]

Both Ashley and Kaidan seem a good choice to me, given enough background material that I'm sure we will be filled up by the time of ME3. They will have had the time to grow up from the kids they started to be in ME1, and after beating Saren as the bad ass human heroes that they surely are.

Sometimes people grow up massively, and sometimes you only need two years to do so.

All the other candidates people are speaking are not that good alternatives, obviously except for Garrus (which is the prime candidate for Spectre status, except he is under Shepard's command and thus hasn't that much of political coverage towards the council...).

[Victia]

Yannkee wrote...

Garrus, Miranda and Kaidan are the only squad members I can imagine as Spectre.

Seconded

[Zakatak757]

I'll do ME1 characters later.

Garrus: Was ready to become a Spectre at some point, but wasn't a fan of the politics. Best pick, most likely.
Grunt: 1000 years left in him, he would be good at "destroy everything" mission, but not much else. No compassion.
Zaeed: Terribly selfish, would sell his wife for 1000 credits. Blew up a refinery for revenge at the cost of 40 lives.
Kasumi: Surprisingly good choice actually, being able to kill without being seen. But she wouldn't want to be, no doubt about it.
Tali: List of members surviving under her command: Kal, Veetor. That is quite pathetic. No leadership skills.
Jacob: Council would find him boring, but they don't see the priiiiiiiiize. Actually, nah, just a well-trained guard.
Legion: Despite everyone hating his race, I don't see why not. Brilliant sniper, friendly to all but his enemy.
Samara: Already a Spectre in Asari space, no point.
Jack: No. No no. No no no no no no no.
Miranda: Doubt she would like being ordered around by aliens, I see a human-centricity problem here.
Mordin: Was in STG, whom are the Salarian Spetsnaz/SEALS. Both brutal and caring. Though, 20 years left of life.
Thane: He has 10 months left in him. Ruthless killer, soft heart, but he is dying inside.

Modifié par Zakatak757, 12 septembre 2011 - 10:21 .

[Unionhack]

I think a lot of the squadmates could make good spectres.

Garrus would be perfect. Holding off 3 huge merc groups simultaneously? Sometimes I wish I could play as him instead of Shepard, no matter how awesome my Shep is.
I'm not sure about Grunt, since he's still rather Krogan-y. Wrex would be a great Spectre if the council would get over themselves.
Thane would also be a perfect spectre in my opinion.
Samara would if it weren't for her code, I'm sure it'd interfere with her ethics.

[Someone With Mass]

Considering that the candidate should probably have a rather healthy and spotless past and be of the Citadel races, the list is getting pretty short.

Pretty much just VS (though I don't like it at all, since they're really not Spectre material in my eyes), Garrus and perhaps Liara.

[ADLegend21]

Zakatak757 wrote...

I'll do ME1 characters later.

Garrus: Was ready to become a Spectre at some point, but wasn't a fan of the politics. Best pick, most likely.
Grunt: 1000 years left in him, he would be good at "destroy everything" mission, but not much else. No compassion.
Zaeed: Terribly selfish, would sell his wife for 1000 credits. Blew up a refinery for revenge at the cost of 40 lives.
Kasumi: Surprisingly good choice actually, being able to kill without being seen. But she wouldn't want to be, no doubt about it.
Tali: List of members surviving under her command: Kal, Veetor. That is quite pathetic. No leadership skills.
Jacob: Council would find him boring, but they don't see the priiiiiiiiize. Actually, nah, just a well-trained guard.
Legion: Despite everyone hating his race, I don't see why not. Brilliant sniper, friendly to all but his enemy.
Samara: Already a Spectre in Asari space, no point.
Jack: No. No no. No no no no no no no.
Miranda: Doubt she would like being ordered around by aliens, I see a human-centricity problem here.
Mordin: Was in STG, whom are the Salarian Spetsnaz/SEALS. Both brutal and caring. Though, 20 years left of life.
Thane: He has 10 months left in him. Ruthless killer, soft heart, but he is dying inside.

someione being "interesting" doens't count on the battlefield. He's already SAVED the council so Jacob would make a great Spectre, same with Miranda. She's not "human centric" she has several lines that express admiration, the most prominent on Illium "Humanity oculd learn from the asari" doens't sound human centric to me. Aslo Garrus was 1 of 1000 that entered into spectre training and he didn't even complete it.

[RyuGuitarFreak]

Liara, Legion and Mordin (retired STG, but could be a really damn good in his best years). Those 3 would get my sincere vote. More than capable regarding skills and I think they can make a good judgement on most situations.
Of course I'm picking my choices as who of them would make a GOOD Spectre in my point of view, not what the Council would like or would get the job done easier.

Slidell505 wrote...

Garrus. He's already batman, think what he could do with better funding.

He would make Garrus Inc. /comic nerd
Though he is more like Punisher than Batman.

[Haventh]

Slidell505 wrote...

Garrus. He's already batman, think what he could do with better funding.

Heretic! There is ONLY ONE TRUE BATMAN!

I think that Jacob would make a good Spectre.

[Wulfram]

Mordin would make an excellent Spectre.
Liara might benefit from Spectre status if it was kept quiet. It could aid her in her Shadowbroker work.
Garrus would do OK for a while. Then he'd probably flip out over bureaucracy and quit.
Miranda would be good if she was loyal to the Council.

(Warning, tangent

Regarding Tali - some of the Quarian's under her command at Freedom's Progress did survive, she's treating wounded after you destroy the Mech. And on Haestrom she seems to have been more the technical specialist than the leader, though if she was supposed to be in command that's in itself a problem.

Also, it's not like she's alone in suffering heavy casualties under her command. There aren't many squadmates with leadership experience who haven't.  edit: Far as I can see, Wrex is the only successful military leader squadmate)

Modifié par Wulfram, 12 septembre 2011 - 10:52 .

[eternalnightmare13]

Slidell505 wrote...

Garrus. He's already batman, robin think what he could do with better funding.

[Arkitekt]

eternalnightmare13 wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

Garrus. He's already batman, robin think what he could do with better funding.

Spot on.

[The Elder King]

Considering every species, I'd say Wrex. Between the Council race, the only one I say is Garrus, though I'm not so sure after ME2. A good character development for him in ME2 and ME3 could have been making him a Spectre.
Other than him, the other Council specie squadmate lack the skill or the motivation to work directly for the Council.

Modifié par hhh89, 12 septembre 2011 - 10:58 .

[The Twilight God]

Wrex

Garrus

Kasumi (teamed up with Garrus, but not solo)

Zaeed

Thane

Samara (she sorta already is)

[Dunmer of Redoran]

Zakatak757 wrote...

Tali: List of members surviving under her command: Kal, Veetor. That is quite pathetic. No leadership skills.

Tali wasn't the commander on Freedom's Progress or Haestrom. Prazza and Kal were in charge of the troops; she was just a technician along for the ride.

[Taritu]

Zaeed, Thane and Samara. They'd all be mostly solo operators, but they are all really really good at that. All of them have made a career of doing the impossible or damn near. Of course, I wouldn't want to be a squadmate with Zaeed, but the council wouldn't care about that if he got the job done, and he does.

[Golden Owl]

Garrus: A great choice if he wasn't quite so hot headed, he would need to reign that in.

Grunt: Too aggressive...even with age, he may be the ultimate Krogan but he doesn't strike me as the sharpest tool in the shed.

Zaeed: I couldn't see Zaeed even interested in the concept and is way too self absorbed.

Kasumi: May have what it takes with her skill set, but her compassion could get in the way and I really don't think she would want to anyway.

Tali: Her skill sets are not broad enough...too specialized....She also lacks the sense of presense Spectre's would need.

Jacob: I don't think he would ever be anything more than a talented soldier and he like Tali also lacks the sense of presense Spectre's would need.

Legion: A possibility, but very controversal as a Geth and I couldn't see him wanting to.

Samara: Her code would be a problem, the Council's hands aren't exactly clean.

Jack: Straight up not Spectre material.

Miranda: And we thought Saren was bad, Miranda is too ruthless and morally questionable...too much unquestioned power for her ambiguousness.

Mordin: Too old.

Thane: Maybe...he does have the skills and would be a brilliant infiltration Spectre, but his health maybe an issue.

Wrex: I can see him having what it takes...though I doubt he would...too much answering to the Council and he is busy with much more important matters with his people.

Liara: I just don't see it, I can't be sure why, but just can't see it...so pretty much...no comments on Liara.

Ash: Unless she learns to control her reactionary attitude and starts learning a little something about diplomacy...I can't see her getting far as a Spectre.

Kaidan: I had to think about him...was originally 'No'...I thought he might be too Paragon to make the hard calls...but am thinking I was wrong....He in fact may make a brilliant Spectre.

[longlun]

sephiroth199127 wrote...

teenparty wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

Garrus. He's already batman, think what he could do with better funding.

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To answer the comic's question:  Punisher.

And yes I pick Garrus. I agree he's a bit hot-headed, but he's got the determination to do what is necessary. He won't hesitate to kill, but won't enjoy the act of killing either.  Also, even though he's Shepard's sidekick, he's proven that he's got some manner of leadership skills.  With that said however, remember that Garrus does not trust the Council at all.  If he's ever to join only Shepard could convince him.

Jack and Grunt may be more ruthless killers, but they only kill for fun, and couldn't care less about a cause.  They wish they were Spectres just for a free killing-spree pass.

Kasumi and Tali aren't hard enough to be killers.  They would kill anyone killing them and that's it.

Thane's got the skillset to kill without being seen.  But a Spectre also has to be thinking in terms of galactic stability.  I can't decide if killing Nassana Dantius is enough to prove that he does.  I'm thinking maybe.

Zaeed is motivated by money.  Sure he could get the job done, but pay him enough money he'd betray the council just as easily.

Samara should not have a high opinion of Spectres and their dirty work due to their code.  She is motivated by seeking Justice wherever she goes.  If she holds her code above her missions, she could very well jeopardize the big picture.

Mordin's got everything it takes to be a Spectre.  Not sure if he'd care to though, since according to him STG had it so much better.

Legion is Geth and is also loyal to Geth.  The Council would sooner execute him rather than trust him.

Jacob is an effective and loyal soldier.  However, he seems to be a soldier who cannot truly act on his own.  Spectres are demanded to make tough, galactic, decisions.  It's not just a matter of doing what feels right.  He could follow, but not decide.

I actually think Miranda's a good choice.  She's cold enough to kill when necessary, but not crazy enough to kill needlessly.  She's a proven leader, highly intelligent, and above-average biotic.  If she could be convinced that it is in humanity's interest to help the Council (especially since she already quit Cerberus after ME2), and if the Council could accept a former Cerberus operative, she would make an excellent Spectre.

With the exception of Shepard, Wrex doesn't care about anyone who isn't a Krogan.

As the Shadow Broker, Liara already has more power than the Council.  She could force every species in Citadel Space to kill each other in a matter of minutes, then take over the Council and make her own Spectres.

Ash/Kaidan are already Spectres.  Would they make good Spectres? We don't know what changes they went through (or lack of), so I'm going to based my opinions solely on ME1.

Like Jacob, Ashley is just an effective soldier.  Only difference is Cerberus or Alliance.  Her biggest problem however, is like Garrus, she's too hot-headed (and quite a bit more so than Garrus).  And I'm all for Team-Ashley, so let's hope her character went through some major development to make her a Spectre.

This is my opinion, so please don't hate on me....Kaidan whines.  A lot.  Nothing about him comes across as a badass protector of the galaxy.  I can at least picture Ashley (and Jacob) intimidate someone to get what they need.  Kaidan might have to cry on people for hours.

Modifié par longlun, 13 septembre 2011 - 01:53 .