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[ThePwener]

leonia42 wrote...

Does the consistency between novel/comic characters and their in-game versions fail to register with your brain or are you just being a deliberate troll?

Unwarranted hostility. 

Im out.

Bye.

[JeffZero]

Death is a pretty substantial roadblock.

[UnadoptedTrack]

Gabey5 wrote...



i don't want shepard to be some unstoppable force, shep needs some roadblocks

Death is NOT a roadblock, it's an end!

[Leonia]

Death is only the beginning..

My bet is on Shepard winning, btw.

[UnadoptedTrack]

leonia42 wrote...

Death is only the beginning..

My bet is on Shepard winning, btw.

Hm, philosophical.

[Gabey5]

UnadoptedTrack wrote...

Gabey5 wrote...



i don't want shepard to be some unstoppable force, shep needs some roadblocks

Death is NOT a roadblock, it's an end!

cerberus is bound to have a few creds left

www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par Gabey5, 13 septembre 2011 - 07:22 .

[UnadoptedTrack]

Gabey5 wrote...

cerberus is bound to have a few creds left

www.youtube.com/watch

Cerberus is trying to kill him in Mass Effect 3 (reasons still unknown)! Besides, why would they have a Cerberus operative kill him, only to spend tons of credits bringing him back...again?!

[Gabey5]

The illusive man is a complex guy

leng may just want to retrieve shepard not kill him

Modifié par Gabey5, 13 septembre 2011 - 07:30 .

[didymos1120]

ThePwener wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Does the consistency between novel/comic characters and their in-game versions fail to register with your brain or are you just being a deliberate troll?

Unwarranted hostility. 

Im out.

Bye.

Flounce-out!  Odds are good that he'll be back presently though.

[UnadoptedTrack]

Gabey5 wrote...

The illusive man is a complex guy

leng may just want to retrieve shepard not kill him

Do you know how little sense that makes?!

[didymos1120]

BlueDemonX wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Whether you personally enjoyed that content or not is not up for debate, it's already been confirmed that Kai Leng will be in ME3.

In fact, they came up with Kai Leng as a character for ME3 first, and then afterwards realized that they could fit him in to Retribution pretty easily, so decided to have him make his debut there. 

Source?

Here:

Nrama: We found it pretty interesting that Kai Leng, who was a standout character in the third novel, came out of the game development; how did that play out?

Karpyshyn: You know, it was kind of a simultaneous thing. We were looking for interesting characters; concept artists love doing concept stuff, and Mass Effect has a strong visual style. Leng was a character that fit in with both stories, he fit as someone that could start out very simple, just the muscle, the hit man, the "cleaner," but then becomes something else. He embodies Cerberus's beliefs, he's very pro-human, and he's doing horrible things to other species.

So it fit into the game that was coming, the overall story, and it fit well with the story we wanted in the book.

So, actually, I was a bit off: it was more a collaborative thing where Leng got adapted some for the novel, rather than Drew just importing a fully pre-conceived character whole.

[UnadoptedTrack]

Nrama: We found it pretty interesting that Kai Leng, who was a standout character in the third novel, came out of the game development; how did that play out?

Karpyshyn: You know, it was kind of a simultaneous thing. We were looking for interesting characters; concept artists love doing concept stuff, and Mass Effect has a strong visual style. Leng was a character that fit in with both stories, he fit as someone that could start out very simple, just the muscle, the hit man, the "cleaner," but then becomes something else. He embodies Cerberus's beliefs, he's very pro-human, and he's doing horrible things to other species.

So it fit into the game that was coming, the overall story, and it fit well with the story we wanted in the book.

I did not know this.

Modifié par UnadoptedTrack, 13 septembre 2011 - 07:42 .

[azerSheppard]

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cant believe noone has done this before, pay no heed to the filename, it's KL

[Dave of Canada]

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't interested in finding out what those "horrible things" he's doing are, he seems more like a psycopath than the Cerberus Operative who does what he must. Could provide a very interesting dynamic.

"THIS COULD'VE BEEN YOU."

[SkittlesKat96]

That would be a cool fight. Especially if it was a melee fight (but I doubt that will happen let alone work unless in a cutscene or with quick time events.)

I think Shepard could just barely beat Kai Leng, I also think that Shepard could possibly take down a Krogan in an unarmed hand to hand duel (in his armor, and after ME 2.)

I know it hasn't really been established as canon yet and chances are it probably isn't true but I always thought of Shepard as being augmented a bit after the Lazarus project, also I think if it was your average Krogan (and not a Krogan Warlord or Wrex for example) then Shepard could probably beat them. It would be a tough fight though.

[matt-bassist]

jreezy wrote...

matt-bassist wrote...

Beleez wrote...

So we know that Kai Leng will be after Shepard in ME3, i hope for epic one on one battle, because I feel like im cheating when i need two squadmates to fight some of the bosses (like Saren, or Tela Vasir) what are your thoughts?

I really hope there is an option to challenge him to a duel, and while his guard is down, just pull out my pistol and shoot him in the face. Kind of like Indiana Jones.

Then Shepard can say "Who the hell are you anyway? Why am I supposed to fear you, you aren't in the last two games so I have no idea who you are. Don't tell me you're from those dreadful *novels*... those things aren't even canon." Then maybe he can whip out his dick and take a ****** on Kai Leng's dead face, there-by echoing what I really wish I could do to those stupid, bad-written books.

The books aren't canon, since when?

Of course not. The books get a great number of events wrong. Udina is not the Human Councillor... When did THAT happen? In a universe where your decisions matter, something as set-in-stone as a bad-written bunch of books simply cannot be canon.

[Leonia]

matt-bassist wrote...
Of course not. The books get a great number of events wrong. Udina is not the Human Councillor... When did THAT happen? In a universe where your decisions matter, something as set-in-stone as a bad-written bunch of books simply cannot be canon.

Since Anderson resigned at the end of ME2 and the novel takes place between ME2 and ME3, where are your other examples? It's canon, whether you like it or not.

Modifié par leonia42, 13 septembre 2011 - 02:47 .

[snowfox522]

The books are definitely Cannon, the thing with Udina in the human canceler is only the stock choice if you didn't play mass effect one. only when dealing with mass effect the books have to make some assumptions however whether Anderson's counselor or Udina's assistant He will still quit like in the books and the events of the book will play out the same.

[marshalleck]

The books are canon unless specifically contradicted by the game. There's not a simple black-and-white here:

Games > dev comments > books/comics > whatever else may be floating around

[Dean_the_Young]

Frankly, I'd be happiest if Kai Leng couldn't be killed at all. You could beat him, and even ruin Cerberus, but I'd like there to be a few characters that Shepard can't take down to fulfill whatever ego/revenge fantasies the player has. (I'd like that to apply to TIM as well, but-)

ME2 pandered too much as it was to the player's ego, what with all the praise about how 'best' and 'great' and otherwise special Shepard was, even when Shepard had less to do about the plot. ME1's Shepard was respected, but ME2 nearly deified Shepard into a super-messiah. ME3 doesn't need Kai Leng to serve as the personal devil of evil for Shepard to prove himself awesome by overcoming.

[111987]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Frankly, I'd be happiest if Kai Leng couldn't be killed at all. You could beat him, and even ruin Cerberus, but I'd like there to be a few characters that Shepard can't take down to fulfill whatever ego/revenge fantasies the player has. (I'd like that to apply to TIM as well, but-)

ME2 pandered too much as it was to the player's ego, what with all the praise about how 'best' and 'great' and otherwise special Shepard was, even when Shepard had less to do about the plot. ME1's Shepard was respected, but ME2 nearly deified Shepard into a super-messiah. ME3 doesn't need Kai Leng to serve as the personal devil of evil for Shepard to prove himself awesome by overcoming.

So...Kai Leng just escapes? That's rather anti-climatic. But if that's what you like...

[Fiery Phoenix]

I sincerely doubt that, Dean. At best, you will be given an option to spare him. But for all intents and purposes, he is to be killed.

[Dean_the_Young]

111987 wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Frankly, I'd be happiest if Kai Leng couldn't be killed at all. You could beat him, and even ruin Cerberus, but I'd like there to be a few characters that Shepard can't take down to fulfill whatever ego/revenge fantasies the player has. (I'd like that to apply to TIM as well, but-)

ME2 pandered too much as it was to the player's ego, what with all the praise about how 'best' and 'great' and otherwise special Shepard was, even when Shepard had less to do about the plot. ME1's Shepard was respected, but ME2 nearly deified Shepard into a super-messiah. ME3 doesn't need Kai Leng to serve as the personal devil of evil for Shepard to prove himself awesome by overcoming.

So...Kai Leng just escapes? That's rather anti-climatic. But if that's what you like...

It's only anti-climatic if your personal climax depends on you killing him.

Since Kai Leng is an antagonist, but not the villain of the game...

[Dean_the_Young]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

I sincerely doubt that, Dean. At best, you will be given an option to spare him. But for all intents and purposes, he is to be killed.

Why? Because he's opposed the glorious, unbeatable player character?

[Xilizhra]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

I sincerely doubt that, Dean. At best, you will be given an option to spare him. But for all intents and purposes, he is to be killed.

Why? Because he's opposed the glorious, unbeatable player character?

That does tend to be what happens to those who take up arms against Shepard, especially for the Elnora/random mook/various others-killing sort.

In any case, I don't see Kai Leng as being that important.

Modifié par Xilizhra, 13 septembre 2011 - 05:43 .