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[100k]

I'm guessing it'll be a situation where you shoot down his kinetic barriers, perform a heavy melee, and then retreat after his shields come back up. If you attempt to CQC him before his shield goes down, he'll block and counter your attack (I wish Shepard had a counter CQC move).

I'm okay with that.

[100k]

CC-Tron wrote...

100k wrote...

It'll be a bit strange to take on Leng in hand to hand if you brought Thane and Garrus with you. Those two are probably on Shepard's level of CQC by themselves -- hell, Thane's probably even better than Shepard/Leng.

Thane showed he's good at sneak attacks but in a straight one on one fight that's different. Garrus hasn't shown any CQC prowess beyond any other squad mate.

Thane's 42 years old, and has been training since he was six. Yeah, he's probably better at hand to hand than even Shepard. 

Garrus is one of the top ranked CQC specialists in the turian military. I doubt he's better than Shepard, but he's probably not much worse.

[_purifico_]

Not interested. Give him a quick cutscene bullet to the face and be through with it. I'm here for the Reapers after all not another space ****.

Modifié par _purifico_, 12 septembre 2011 - 02:27 .

[CC-Tron]

100k wrote...

CC-Tron wrote...

100k wrote...

It'll be a bit strange to take on Leng in hand to hand if you brought Thane and Garrus with you. Those two are probably on Shepard's level of CQC by themselves -- hell, Thane's probably even better than Shepard/Leng.

Thane showed he's good at sneak attacks but in a straight one on one fight that's different. Garrus hasn't shown any CQC prowess beyond any other squad mate.

Thane's 42 years old, and has been training since he was six. Yeah, he's probably better at hand to hand than even Shepard. 

Garrus is one of the top ranked CQC specialists in the turian military. I doubt he's better than Shepard, but he's probably not much worse.

The one who trains the longest does not equal the one who is the best. That's true for any fighting discipline. He's trained as assassin and not particularly to be the best fighter. Where'd you get the info on Garrus?

Modifié par CC-Tron, 12 septembre 2011 - 02:30 .

[_purifico_]

CC-Tron wrote...

100k wrote...

CC-Tron wrote...

100k wrote...

It'll be a bit strange to take on Leng in hand to hand if you brought Thane and Garrus with you. Those two are probably on Shepard's level of CQC by themselves -- hell, Thane's probably even better than Shepard/Leng.

Thane showed he's good at sneak attacks but in a straight one on one fight that's different. Garrus hasn't shown any CQC prowess beyond any other squad mate.

Thane's 42 years old, and has been training since he was six. Yeah, he's probably better at hand to hand than even Shepard. 

Garrus is one of the top ranked CQC specialists in the turian military. I doubt he's better than Shepard, but he's probably not much worse.

The one who trains the longest does not equal the one who is the best. That's true for any fighting discipline. He's trained as assassin and not particularly to be the best fighter. Where'd you get the info on Garrus?

I think Garrus tells Shepard that when they discuss turian reach and flexibility. I have to check it though.

UPD: Checked it. "She and I were the top ranked hand to hand specialists on the ship" - , 2:13 mark.
Not the best in turian military =) Just the ship

Modifié par _purifico_, 12 septembre 2011 - 03:23 .

[leggywillow]

CC-Tron wrote...
The one who trains the longest does not equal the one who is the best. That's true for any fighting discipline. He's trained as assassin and not particularly to be the best fighter. Where'd you get the info on Garrus?

In Garrus' "reach and flexibility" conversation, he says that he and the scout chick he was sparring with were the "top-ranked hand-to-hand specialists" on their ship.

[eye basher]

Well considering Kei leng took down a reaper powered Grayson i'd be careful with him.

[Leonia]

Don't forget Garrus was considered for Spectre training as well, he's pretty good with his hands.. erm.. yeah.

And after reading Retribution, it would be deliciously ironic to watch Kai Leng be taken down by a turian, it really would.

Modifié par leonia42, 12 septembre 2011 - 03:29 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

Thane vs. Kai Leng would be the best assassin-on-assassin showdown. One is said to be the most skillful assassin in the galaxy who has been in grave-danger situations and killed some, to quote Captain Bailey, "really bad people", while the other is a pro-human assassin who will do anything to ensure he's the winner. Yeah, tell me it wouldn't be a good fight to watch...

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 12 septembre 2011 - 03:28 .

[JeffZero]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Thane vs. Kai Leng would be the best assassin-on-assassin showdown. One is said to be the most skillful assassin in the galaxy who has been in grave-danger situations and killed some, to quote Captain Bailey, "really bad people", while the other is a pro-human assassin who will do anything to ensure he's the winner. Yeah, tell me it wouldn't be a good fight to watch...

Now this... this would be amazing.

[Calamity Abounds]

leonia42 wrote...

Don't forget Garrus was considered for Spectre training as well, he's pretty good with his hands.. erm.. yeah.

And after reading Retribution, it would be deliciously ironic to watch Kai Leng be taken down by a turian, it really would.

I'd take Garrus but I'd have to take Jack too if she's available.

"Oh you defeated a female biotic powerhouse? Well I've got one here who is much older and oh yeah she ultimately hates Cerberus, Have fun!" :happy:

[CC-Tron]

leggywillow wrote...

CC-Tron wrote...
The one who trains the longest does not equal the one who is the best. That's true for any fighting discipline. He's trained as assassin and not particularly to be the best fighter. Where'd you get the info on Garrus?

In Garrus' "reach and flexibility" conversation, he says that he and the scout chick he was sparring with were the "top-ranked hand-to-hand specialists" on their ship.

That's what I thought. There is a big difference between being one of the best on a ship and the entire Turian military.

Modifié par CC-Tron, 12 septembre 2011 - 03:38 .

[Bad King]

Kai Leng will be a tough fight. He appears to have cybernetic upgrades now (provided that the artwork of that guy in the gameinformer mag is indeed him).

[Dunmer of Redoran]

Can I just shoot him in the head and move on to someone more interesting?

[Sgt Stryker]

LGTX wrote...

You guys seen this? It's from a thread I created a while back, and it shows artwork from the Gameinformer reveal which was surprisingly missed out in discussions:

<snip>

Thing is, popular opinion back in the topic was that the guy on the pic is Kai Leng, and being the assassin he is, he decides to crash right into the captain's quarters while the ship is in outer space.

If the ship is in outer space at the time, why isn't everything (including the glass and the assassin himself) getting sucked out into space?

[Someone With Mass]

DaftArbiter wrote...

Can I just shoot him in the head and move on to someone more interesting?

Or tag him with a grenade and then kick him out a window/airlock.

[Giggles_Manically]

Mary/Gary Stu vs Gary Stu.
Over powered killer vs Over power killer!

WARRIOR VS WARRIOR!
WHO IS DEADLIEST!

Just personally looking forward to letting Jack and Grunt making a wish with this moron.
RRRRRIIIIIIIPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

[Dunmer of Redoran]

Someone With Mass wrote...

DaftArbiter wrote...

Can I just shoot him in the head and move on to someone more interesting?

Or tag him with a grenade and then kick him out a window/airlock.

The less attention I have to give to this character, the better.

I don't want to jump the gun on him, but he sounds like a total Villain-Sue. He's an N7 marine who's suddenly relevant and who killed a krogan with a knife (seriously?) but also happens to be working for Cerberus and apparently can chew through rope and escape a healthy man even when he has two severe leg injuries. How many more excuses do they have to make this guy relevant?

Maybe he wears a bullet-deflecting device like Fortune from MGS2 that he invented by crapping on a pinwheel. Maybe he can stop time by holding his breath like Guldo from DBZ. Or maybe he can jump from heights of over 2 miles without injury due to some ability we discover that he has where his legs automatically brace for impacts?

There's so many potentially great ideas for boss characters and minor antagonists along the way and we'll have to deal with this guy for probably a major portion of the time? Lame.

[azerSheppard]

LGTX wrote...

You guys seen this? It's from a thread I created a while back, and it shows artwork from the Gameinformer reveal which was surprisingly missed out in discussions:



Thing is, popular opinion back in the topic was that the guy on the pic is Kai Leng, and being the assassin he is, he decides to crash right into the captain's quarters while the ship is in outer space.

Talk about a holywood event, the glass, and everything else should move outwards, not into the ship...

[DonDaMon]

Shepard: "FALCON PUNCHHH"
Kai Leng: *Deaded*

end of story 

Modifié par DonDaMon, 12 septembre 2011 - 04:33 .

[Chuvvy]

Most of you assume he'll be like Zevran right? You'll fight him and either choose to kill him or let him join you. That's what I'm assuming will happen.

[LGTX]

azerSheppard wrote...

LGTX wrote...

You guys seen this? It's from a thread I created a while back, and it shows artwork from the Gameinformer reveal which was surprisingly missed out in discussions:



Thing is, popular opinion back in the topic was that the guy on the pic is Kai Leng, and being the assassin he is, he decides to crash right into the captain's quarters while the ship is in outer space.

Talk about a holywood event, the glass, and everything else should move outwards, not into the ship...

That's exactly what's happening. Datapad, cushions, etc. The momentum of the assassin brought some glass in, but even that is now going up. 

[azerSheppard]

eye basher wrote...

Well considering Kei leng took down a reaper powered Grayson i'd be careful with him.

Ha! If you call that a "Hand to hand" mano-a-mano fight, then by all means Joker could take down Grayson aswell, just need Anderson, a few biotics and allot of ammo.

Thane Vs Kai Leng wouldn't even be a fight, it would be a massacre of epic proportions
Garrus could stand his ground, hell Wrex could turn him into space juice. Even Jack could lore-wise destroy KL. Sheperd went hand to hand with a Yagh, nuff said.

[LGTX]

Kai Leng killed a krogan in a barfight during his military career.

[BatmanPWNS]

I hope he beats Shep at least once (or at least shows that he can handle Shep) so the revenge feels more sweet.