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It's really hard to see how CQC would be practical, given the different classes and their unique abilities. Why would adepts go for a fist fight when they can just warp bomb Leng to death?

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The less attention I have to give to this character, the better.

I don't want to jump the gun on him, but he sounds like a total Villain-Sue. He's an N7 marine who's suddenly relevant and who killed a krogan with a knife (seriously?) but also happens to be working for Cerberus and apparently can chew through rope and escape a healthy man even when he has two severe leg injuries. How many more excuses do they have to make this guy relevant?

Maybe he wears a bullet-deflecting device like Fortune from MGS2 that he invented by crapping on a pinwheel. Maybe he can stop time by holding his breath like Guldo from DBZ. Or maybe he can jump from heights of over 2 miles without injury due to some ability we discover that he has where his legs automatically brace for impacts?

There's so many potentially great ideas for boss characters and minor antagonists along the way and we'll have to deal with this guy for probably a major portion of the time? Lame.


True. 

Making a counterpart to Shepard of all people is not a good idea.

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IntrepidProdigy wrote...

It's really hard to see how CQC would be practical, given the different classes and their unique abilities. Why would adepts go for a fist fight when they can just warp bomb Leng to death?


But all classes come with new heavy melee attacks so there is that..

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Shepard should just do this and go home.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Shepard should just do this and go home.


I guess you're the one view? lol

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 Basically that's what I think the Kai Leng encounter should be like.

I mean, I didn't read the books yet, but I get the feeling that BioWare tries to throw everything that can attract anyone into ME3. We have already:
- Space swords ALSO with the psi-sword counterpart
- space shields
- mechs
- turrets
- Shepard operating some kind of Troika/HMG variation

and a space ninja. All those things are cool, but the mix of all the cool things together can sometimes feel less than it is expected to.

Also, you've seen so many super-duper-agile ninja vs main soldier-type* protagonist duels in fiction, that it is anything but a fresh idea.

* I know, Shepard can be blah blah blah, but the Soldier is the most common, default class, and all the cutscenes also don't give a hint about his class, and s/he  kinda acts like Soldier

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azerSheppard wrote...

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You guys seen this? It's from a thread I created a while back, and it shows artwork from the Gameinformer reveal which was surprisingly missed out in discussions:

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Thing is, popular opinion back in the topic was that the guy on the pic is Kai Leng, and being the assassin he is, he decides to crash right into the captain's quarters while the ship is in outer space.


Talk about a holywood event, the glass, and everything else should move outwards, not into the ship...


If that makes it into the game, How the heck did that person get on the Normandy.EDI!!!!!

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 So long as there is Gunkata involved during the fight, i'll be satisfied :D

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LGTX wrote...

azerSheppard wrote...

LGTX wrote...

You guys seen this? It's from a thread I created a while back, and it shows artwork from the Gameinformer reveal which was surprisingly missed out in discussions:

Posted Image

Thing is, popular opinion back in the topic was that the guy on the pic is Kai Leng, and being the assassin he is, he decides to crash right into the captain's quarters while the ship is in outer space.


Talk about a holywood event, the glass, and everything else should move outwards, not into the ship...


That's exactly what's happening. Datapad, cushions, etc. The momentum of the assassin brought some glass in, but even that is now going up. 


Uh...this shot is in vacuum. The papers, glass (probably from the cabinet), and data pads are being sucked into space.

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it would be quite fitting to go after KL after he kills anderson....after all anderson let him walk(crawl) away instead of killing him.....

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Kia Lang kill a krogan in a bar fight. Really not that impressive.

Mordin killed a krogan with a FARMING EQUIPMENTS. Your argument is invalid.

Zaeed beat the living crap out of one and then took their guns and blasted the rest while they were comprehending what happened.

Wrex fu*cking killed a Treasher frikkn Maw on foot.

Samara played cat and mouse with Nihlus the most decorated Turian specter in the galaxy. Where she was the cat.

Thane, best assassine in the galaxy, period. Has a tactic for everyone.

Liara fought hords of mercs with nothing but her biotics. Equaled an Asari specter.

Jack fought hords of mercs, pirates, military. Survived on the purgatory!





Zaeed vs Lang would be interesting.

Lang really isn't that special. I can't understand the hype.

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how many folks played 'the bourne conspiracy' game? i did....it wasn't great but it was fun....anyways....the last level could be a nice KL fight....it involved the regular combat system with duck n cover shooting....then once your enemy's power was down to a level you engaged hand to hand for a bit and so on....it was quite entertaining and challenging...

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stysiaq wrote...

 Basically that's what I think the Kai Leng encounter should be like.


It would be funny if that was a renegade interrupt.

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Dariustwinblade wrote...

Kia Lang kill a krogan in a bar fight. Really not that impressive.

Mordin killed a krogan with a FARMING EQUIPMENTS. Your argument is invalid.

Zaeed beat the living crap out of one and then took their guns and blasted the rest while they were comprehending what happened.

Wrex fu*cking killed a Treasher frikkn Maw on foot.

Samara played cat and mouse with Nihlus the most decorated Turian specter in the galaxy. Where she was the cat.

Thane, best assassine in the galaxy, period. Has a tactic for everyone.

Liara fought hords of mercs with nothing but her biotics. Equaled an Asari specter.

Jack fought hords of mercs, pirates, military. Survived on the purgatory!





Zaeed vs Lang would be interesting.

Lang really isn't that special. I can't understand the hype.


KL took out a turian commando squad in his boxers with just a knife, saving TIM from certain death in the process...

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Conrad vs kai Leng! I wonder if Conrad can kick Kai in his daddy bags

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mulder1199 wrote...

Dariustwinblade wrote...

Kia Lang kill a krogan in a bar fight. Really not that impressive.

Mordin killed a krogan with a FARMING EQUIPMENTS. Your argument is invalid.

Zaeed beat the living crap out of one and then took their guns and blasted the rest while they were comprehending what happened.

Wrex fu*cking killed a Treasher frikkn Maw on foot.

Samara played cat and mouse with Nihlus the most decorated Turian specter in the galaxy. Where she was the cat.

Thane, best assassine in the galaxy, period. Has a tactic for everyone.

Liara fought hords of mercs with nothing but her biotics. Equaled an Asari specter.

Jack fought hords of mercs, pirates, military. Survived on the purgatory!





Zaeed vs Lang would be interesting.

Lang really isn't that special. I can't understand the hype.


KL took out a turian commando squad in his boxers with just a knife, saving TIM from certain death in the process...


This is just Bad Ass!!!

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I don't get it. Isn't TIM supposed to be pretty combat proficient as well?

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100k wrote...

I don't get it. Isn't TIM supposed to be pretty combat proficient as well?


No, in the book Mass Effect: Retribution it says that while he has had some training, he hasn't practiced in a long time. He's nowhere near the level of a Shepard, Kai Leng, etc...

Modifié par 111987, 12 septembre 2011 - 07:24 .


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100k wrote...

I don't get it. Isn't TIM supposed to be pretty combat proficient as well?


he was caught in a bad spot with limited weapons....i'd have to go back and reread 'retribution' for great detail....but KL saved his bacon....

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Dariustwinblade wrote...

Kia Lang kill a krogan in a bar fight. Really not that impressive.

Mordin killed a krogan with a FARMING EQUIPMENTS. Your argument is invalid.

Zaeed beat the living crap out of one and then took their guns and blasted the rest while they were comprehending what happened.

Wrex fu*cking killed a Treasher frikkn Maw on foot.

Samara played cat and mouse with Nihlus the most decorated Turian specter in the galaxy. Where she was the cat.

Thane, best assassine in the galaxy, period. Has a tactic for everyone.

Liara fought hords of mercs with nothing but her biotics. Equaled an Asari specter.

Jack fought hords of mercs, pirates, military. Survived on the purgatory!





Zaeed vs Lang would be interesting.

Lang really isn't that special. I can't understand the hype.


Kai Leng is known as Ceberus's top wetworks agent, meaning he's one of the deadliest humans in the galaxy. He killed a Turian squad with no armor and shielding with just a knife. Though we didn't get to see much of him, the guy crawled hundreds of meters and up ladders with bullet wounds in both of his legs to escape. That's intense.

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111987 wrote...

Dariustwinblade wrote...

Kia Lang kill a krogan in a bar fight. Really not that impressive.

Mordin killed a krogan with a FARMING EQUIPMENTS. Your argument is invalid.

Zaeed beat the living crap out of one and then took their guns and blasted the rest while they were comprehending what happened.

Wrex fu*cking killed a Treasher frikkn Maw on foot.

Samara played cat and mouse with Nihlus the most decorated Turian specter in the galaxy. Where she was the cat.

Thane, best assassine in the galaxy, period. Has a tactic for everyone.

Liara fought hords of mercs with nothing but her biotics. Equaled an Asari specter.

Jack fought hords of mercs, pirates, military. Survived on the purgatory!





Zaeed vs Lang would be interesting.

Lang really isn't that special. I can't understand the hype.


Kai Leng is known as Ceberus's top wetworks agent, meaning he's one of the deadliest humans in the galaxy. He killed a Turian squad with no armor and shielding with just a knife. Though we didn't get to see much of him, the guy crawled hundreds of meters and up ladders with bullet wounds in both of his legs to escape. That's intense.


I want to hand him over to Aria.......

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annihilator27 wrote...

111987 wrote...

Dariustwinblade wrote...

Kia Lang kill a krogan in a bar fight. Really not that impressive.

Mordin killed a krogan with a FARMING EQUIPMENTS. Your argument is invalid.

Zaeed beat the living crap out of one and then took their guns and blasted the rest while they were comprehending what happened.

Wrex fu*cking killed a Treasher frikkn Maw on foot.

Samara played cat and mouse with Nihlus the most decorated Turian specter in the galaxy. Where she was the cat.

Thane, best assassine in the galaxy, period. Has a tactic for everyone.

Liara fought hords of mercs with nothing but her biotics. Equaled an Asari specter.

Jack fought hords of mercs, pirates, military. Survived on the purgatory!





Zaeed vs Lang would be interesting.

Lang really isn't that special. I can't understand the hype.


Kai Leng is known as Ceberus's top wetworks agent, meaning he's one of the deadliest humans in the galaxy. He killed a Turian squad with no armor and shielding with just a knife. Though we didn't get to see much of him, the guy crawled hundreds of meters and up ladders with bullet wounds in both of his legs to escape. That's intense.


I want to hand him over to Aria.......


agreed, BUT she thinks that greyson is responsible (NOT SPOILING) perhaps that would be a nice side quest...

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annihilator27 wrote...

111987 wrote...

Dariustwinblade wrote...

Kia Lang kill a krogan in a bar fight. Really not that impressive.

Mordin killed a krogan with a FARMING EQUIPMENTS. Your argument is invalid.

Zaeed beat the living crap out of one and then took their guns and blasted the rest while they were comprehending what happened.

Wrex fu*cking killed a Treasher frikkn Maw on foot.

Samara played cat and mouse with Nihlus the most decorated Turian specter in the galaxy. Where she was the cat.

Thane, best assassine in the galaxy, period. Has a tactic for everyone.

Liara fought hords of mercs with nothing but her biotics. Equaled an Asari specter.

Jack fought hords of mercs, pirates, military. Survived on the purgatory!





Zaeed vs Lang would be interesting.

Lang really isn't that special. I can't understand the hype.


Kai Leng is known as Ceberus's top wetworks agent, meaning he's one of the deadliest humans in the galaxy. He killed a Turian squad with no armor and shielding with just a knife. Though we didn't get to see much of him, the guy crawled hundreds of meters and up ladders with bullet wounds in both of his legs to escape. That's intense.


I want to hand him over to Aria.......


And I want to kill Aria and take her empire. We all can't be happy. >.<

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If someone will manage to get to Normandy through a freaking window, my Shepard finds every designer involved in creation of said window and shoves Claymore in their coal mine.

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111987 wrote...

Dariustwinblade wrote...

Kia Lang kill a krogan in a bar fight. Really not that impressive.

Mordin killed a krogan with a FARMING EQUIPMENTS. Your argument is invalid.

Zaeed beat the living crap out of one and then took their guns and blasted the rest while they were comprehending what happened.

Wrex fu*cking killed a Treasher frikkn Maw on foot.

Samara played cat and mouse with Nihlus the most decorated Turian specter in the galaxy. Where she was the cat.

Thane, best assassine in the galaxy, period. Has a tactic for everyone.

Liara fought hords of mercs with nothing but her biotics. Equaled an Asari specter.

Jack fought hords of mercs, pirates, military. Survived on the purgatory!





Zaeed vs Lang would be interesting.

Lang really isn't that special. I can't understand the hype.


Kai Leng is known as Ceberus's top wetworks agent, meaning he's one of the deadliest humans in the galaxy. He killed a Turian squad with no armor and shielding with just a knife. Though we didn't get to see much of him, the guy crawled hundreds of meters and up ladders with bullet wounds in both of his legs to escape. That's intense.

Anderson>KL

Nobody is denying that KL is top of the line, he was like that even in the Alliance. No doubt the illusive man has convinced him to undergo cybernetic enhancements and maybe get Reaper implants to up his game.
But the KL from from retribution is NOT stronger than Thane, or even Sheperd.