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111987 wrote...

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Beleez wrote...

So we know that Kai Leng will be after Shepard in ME3, i hope for epic one on one battle, because I feel like im cheating when i need two squadmates to fight some of the bosses (like Saren, or Tela Vasir) what are your thoughts?


This is the first that I've heard about this.I've been trying to stay away from any spoilers concerning "Enemies in ME 3" Ah well... :P

I agree with what you say here.It should be one on one.But with Vasir, she had back-up helping her - so it wasn't like Shepard and Co. ganged up on her.

I also actually liked having my squad with me when fighting Saren too.

But I would like for Commander Shepard VS. Kail Leng to go down like:  Leon S. Kennedy VS. Jack Krauser:  from Resident Evil 4.That was badass! :devil:


YES! That fight was amazing, and is totally what a Kai Leng fight should be like.

You know, just without the giant Plaga arm at the end :lol:


I don't know 111987. a Reaperized Kai Leng eventually ending up fighting Commander Shepard in order to improve his chances of defeating him (after Shepard kicks his butt ealier in the game) could be pretty cool ;)

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ubermensch007 wrote...

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It better be hand to hand. The typical pop and shoot play style ME never feels that heart pounding, but a hand to hand fight like in Heavy Rain would be awesome. In this Americans opinion.


Especially because Adepts/Sentinels/Vanguards would destroy him in two microseconds. With a biotic muay thai knee strike to the FACE. (As a good friend of mine suggested).


Ohhh... yes.  That's what we need.  That's what the Vanguard's heavy melee should be.

Related.  I guess I need to make a Tony Jaa Vanguard now.

You so much plucked that thought from my mind too....:D...I have been thinking about Tony Jaa through this whole thread.


yeah Tony Jaa is pretty cool.But he has nothing on Donny Yen .That man must be in his forties now, and he's still at the top of his game :wizard:



Ah but Tony Jaa is so much cuter....^_^....that's gotta count...:P

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

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Beleez wrote...

So we know that Kai Leng will be after Shepard in ME3, i hope for epic one on one battle, because I feel like im cheating when i need two squadmates to fight some of the bosses (like Saren, or Tela Vasir) what are your thoughts?


I really hope there is an option to challenge him to a duel, and while his guard is down, just pull out my pistol and shoot him in the face. Kind of like Indiana Jones.

Then Shepard can say "Who the hell are you anyway? Why am I supposed to fear you, you aren't in the last two games so I have no idea who you are. Don't tell me you're from those dreadful *novels*... those things aren't even canon." Then maybe he can whip out his dick and take a ****** on Kai Leng's dead face, there-by echoing what I really wish I could do to those stupid, bad-written books.


Ahem. You sound a little...upset.


No way! I just think it would be sweet to take him out instantly to show how useless hs is... kind of like the novels :police:

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I think it would be better for an non-Reaperfied Kai Leng to kick Shepard's ass in a straight up fight between the two of them, but have the fight interrupted for some reason preventing Leng from finishing off Shep. Then when the final confrontation comes later it will be more dramatic, rather than just Shepard walking all over everyone yet again. I get tired of Shepard being unstoppable, invincible, never-wrong manimal.

Dude needs to be brought down a rung or twelve.

Modifié par marshalleck, 13 septembre 2011 - 02:10 .


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Beleez wrote...

So we know that Kai Leng will be after Shepard in ME3, i hope for epic one on one battle, because I feel like im cheating when i need two squadmates to fight some of the bosses (like Saren, or Tela Vasir) what are your thoughts?


I really hope there is an option to challenge him to a duel, and while his guard is down, just pull out my pistol and shoot him in the face. Kind of like Indiana Jones.

Then Shepard can say "Who the hell are you anyway? Why am I supposed to fear you, you aren't in the last two games so I have no idea who you are. Don't tell me you're from those dreadful *novels*... those things aren't even canon." Then maybe he can whip out his dick and take a ****** on Kai Leng's dead face, there-by echoing what I really wish I could do to those stupid, bad-written books.


Ahem. You sound a little...upset.


No way! I just think it would be sweet to take him out instantly to show how useless hs is... kind of like the novels :police:


Eh, the whip out [expletive] and p1ss on his face seemed so...

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Eh, the whip out [expletive] and p1ss on his face seemed so...

fetish?

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marshalleck wrote...

I think it would be better for an non-Reaperfied Kai Leng to kick Shepard's ass in a straight up fight between the two of them, but have the fight interrupted for some reason preventing Leng from finishing off Shep. Then when the final confrontation comes later it will be more dramatic, rather than just Shepard walking all over everyone yet again. I get tired of Shepard being unstoppable, invincible, never-wrong manimal.

Dude needs to be brought down a rung or twelve.



works for me as long as Shepard gets the better of him the second time around.

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marshalleck wrote...

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Eh, the whip out [expletive] and p1ss on his face seemed so...

fetish?


:sick:

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marshalleck wrote...

I think it would be better for an non-Reaperfied Kai Leng to kick Shepard's ass in a straight up fight between the two of them, but have the fight interrupted for some reason preventing Leng from finishing off Shep. Then when the final confrontation comes later it will be more dramatic, rather than just Shepard walking all over everyone yet again. I get tired of Shepard being unstoppable, invincible, never-wrong manimal.

Dude needs to be brought down a rung or twelve.

I both agree and disagree.....Shep is supposed to be a real kick *ss protagonist which fits the game, if he isn't the best, then maybe we should all be playing as Kai Leng and not Shep...If Shep were one of many in a game then yep, the uber cool Mary Sue would bug the sh*t out of me...no-one is perfect....But as it stands, I would be disappointed if Shep got owned by Kai Leng....I was already a little disappointed that Tela Vasir had to be already badly wounded for Shep to be able to take her down....made him look a pretty pitiful Spectre and Hero.

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I want it to just be me, Kai Leng and my HMWA X, but that isn't going to happen. :'(

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marshalleck wrote...

I think it would be better for an non-Reaperfied Kai Leng to kick Shepard's ass in a straight up fight between the two of them, but have the fight interrupted for some reason preventing Leng from finishing off Shep. Then when the final confrontation comes later it will be more dramatic, rather than just Shepard walking all over everyone yet again. I get tired of Shepard being unstoppable, invincible, never-wrong manimal.

Dude needs to be brought down a rung or twelve.


Actually, you know marsh -- that could work.I like the idea of Commander Shepard being put in a situation with Kai Leng; akin to Rocky Balboa Vs. Clubber Lang ...

How Rocky had to over come his fear and doubts about whether he was good enough to defeat this New Challenger to his throne of Baddassery :devil:

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Once Kai Leng is reaperized he is less a character and more a monster.

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@Saphra Deden: Yeah... Just like what Jack Krauser became in Resident Evil 4.Shepard gives human Kai Leng (in their first battle in ME3) a butt whoop on par with what Obi Wan Kenobi gave Anakin Skywalker in Episode III: Revenge of the Sith's climax.

Kai Leng comes back for Round 2, Reaperized -- and Shepard needs his friends help to take him down. :wizard:

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matt-bassist wrote...

Beleez wrote...

So we know that Kai Leng will be after Shepard in ME3, i hope for epic one on one battle, because I feel like im cheating when i need two squadmates to fight some of the bosses (like Saren, or Tela Vasir) what are your thoughts?


I really hope there is an option to challenge him to a duel, and while his guard is down, just pull out my pistol and shoot him in the face. Kind of like Indiana Jones.

Then Shepard can say "Who the hell are you anyway? Why am I supposed to fear you, you aren't in the last two games so I have no idea who you are. Don't tell me you're from those dreadful *novels*... those things aren't even canon." Then maybe he can whip out his dick and take a ****** on Kai Leng's dead face, there-by echoing what I really wish I could do to those stupid, bad-written books.

The books aren't canon, since when?

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jreezy wrote...

matt-bassist wrote...

Beleez wrote...

So we know that Kai Leng will be after Shepard in ME3, i hope for epic one on one battle, because I feel like im cheating when i need two squadmates to fight some of the bosses (like Saren, or Tela Vasir) what are your thoughts?


I really hope there is an option to challenge him to a duel, and while his guard is down, just pull out my pistol and shoot him in the face. Kind of like Indiana Jones.

Then Shepard can say "Who the hell are you anyway? Why am I supposed to fear you, you aren't in the last two games so I have no idea who you are. Don't tell me you're from those dreadful *novels*... those things aren't even canon." Then maybe he can whip out his dick and take a ****** on Kai Leng's dead face, there-by echoing what I really wish I could do to those stupid, bad-written books.

The books aren't canon, since when?

Aside from the fact that they follow Sheps neutral options...I thought myself the story/events behind them is meant to be canon.

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@Saphra Deden: Yeah... Just like what Jack Krauser became in Resident Evil 4.Shepard gives human Kai Leng (in their first battle in ME3) a butt whoop on par with what Obi Wan Kenobi gave Anakin Skywalker in Episode III: Revenge of the Sith's climax.

Kai Leng comes back for Round 2, Reaperized -- and Shepard needs his friends help to take him down. :wizard:


When Anakin came back to face Obi-Wan he killed him, remember?

In any case, I'd hate that. Shepard shouldn't "whoop" Kai Leng at all. He should be a credible threat and thus one who can only be overcome with great struggle.

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You guys seen this? It's from a thread I created a while back, and it shows artwork from the Gameinformer reveal which was surprisingly missed out in discussions:

Image IPB

Thing is, popular opinion back in the topic was that the guy on the pic is Kai Leng, and being the assassin he is, he decides to crash right into the captain's quarters while the ship is in outer space.


That's not Kai Leng.

This is what I think.

This cannot be some assassin breaking through the top of the cabin's viewport in the vaccuum of space. As soon as he shot the glass, the air and items that is sucked out from the room would knock him away from the ship. He wouldn't break through and landed on the bed while everything else is sucked out.

This is what I think this is. The man in the picture is Shepard. The armour is onyx grey just like he default wears. Now the cabin itself seems to have its lights out. What I'm guessing is that the Normandy is under some cyberattack (possibly from Cerberus) and Shepard is locked in his room. The only way he can get out is by wearing his armour, getting on his bed and into a position that prepares him to be launched out into space. His pistol is aimed at the viewport, so I can make the conjecture that he fired it upwards to destroy the glass and allow him to escape his cabin (via halo style) to defeat whatever is attacking the ship.

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ubermensch007 wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

I think it would be better for an non-Reaperfied Kai Leng to kick Shepard's ass in a straight up fight between the two of them, but have the fight interrupted for some reason preventing Leng from finishing off Shep. Then when the final confrontation comes later it will be more dramatic, rather than just Shepard walking all over everyone yet again. I get tired of Shepard being unstoppable, invincible, never-wrong manimal.

Dude needs to be brought down a rung or twelve.


Actually, you know marsh -- that could work.I like the idea of Commander Shepard being put in a situation with Kai Leng; akin to Rocky Balboa Vs. Clubber Lang ...

How Rocky had to over come his fear and doubts about whether he was good enough to defeat this New Challenger to his throne of Baddassery :devil:


I highly doubt they'd give Shepard that much character development. (Boy, that's saying something when the character has less development than in a Rocky movie). 

First Confrontation: Shepard will have his/her ass handed to them by Leng. Some incident or squadmate will save Shep before they die.  Shep shrugs it off.  Never mentions it again.
Second Confrontation: Longer fight, but will end at a stalemate.  Fight will be interrupted before Shep gets the upper hand. Shep shrugs it off.  Never mentions it again.
Third Confrontation: Leng will resort to trickery by kidnapping a squadmate (LI?) or take hostages. Leng will want to beat Shep on his own terms, so he lets the hostage(s) go.  They fight. Shep wins.  Shep shrugs it off.  Never mentions it again.

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Aside from the fact that they follow Sheps neutral options...I thought myself the story/events behind them is meant to be canon.


No, they don't.  They don't follow any options at all, with a single exception: Udina is Councilor in Retribution and the Inquisition comic (and it remains to be seen if they rationalize that in ME3 to preserve Anderson being Councilor for at least a time).  The specifics of other decisions are either carefully avoided by using language that could fit with any of the outcomes, or just plain avoided completely.

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I highly doubt they'd give Shepard that much character development. (Boy, that's saying something when the character has less development than in a Rocky movie). 

First Confrontation: Shepard will have his/her ass handed to them by Leng. Some incident or squadmate will save Shep before they die.  Shep shrugs it off.  Never mentions it again.
Second Confrontation: Longer fight, but will end at a stalemate.  Fight will be interrupted before Shep gets the upper hand. Shep shrugs it off.  Never mentions it again.

Third Confrontation: Leng will resort to trickery by kidnapping a squadmate (LI?) or take hostages. Leng will want to beat Shep on his own terms, so he lets the hostage(s) go.  They fight. Shep wins.  Shep shrugs it off.  Never mentions it again.


This sounds oddly like Devil May Cry 3.

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Aside from the fact that they follow Sheps neutral options...I thought myself the story/events behind them is meant to be canon.


No, they don't.  They don't follow any options at all, with a single exception: Udina is Councilor in Retribution and the Inquisition comic (and it remains to be seen if they rationalize that in ME3 to preserve Anderson being Councilor for at least a time).  The specifics of other decisions are either carefully avoided by using language that could fit with any of the outcomes, or just plain avoided completely.

Udina as Counsellor, also the original Council being dead....they were the incidences I was thinking of.

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I sure hope the window glass on starships is shatter proof...

You know that skylight always made me uncomfortable. It's a structural weakness right where the captain sleeps. I'd rather have my quaraters away from the outer walls of the ship.

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I don't really get all this Kei Leng fanboyism. It's almost as bad as all the Boba Fett fanboys. I honestly hope they don't try to have him one up Shepard. If anything I hope whatever confrontation end up similar to this:


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Udina as Counsellor, also the original Council being dead....they were the incidences I was thinking of.


The original Council was never said to be dead.  What was said is that the Council was "radically restructured", which can fit with either the addition of a new seat for the first time in over a millenium or a complete turnover of membership.

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I don't really get all this Kei Leng fanboyism. It's almost as bad as all the Boba Fett fanboys. I honestly hope they don't try to have him one up Shepard. If anything I hope whatever confrontation end up similar to this:


Oh please. Boba Fett never ****ing delivered in the movies. Ever. Not once.

Kai Leng was a proven badass several times in his one novel.  

In any case, I see just as much if not more Kai Leng hatred as I do fanboyism.