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[longlun]

Do Shepard and Kai Leng have a history?

[whywhywhywhy]

No Kai leng and Anderson have history

[TheShogunOfHarlem]

Saphra Deden wrote...

TheShogunOfHarlem wrote...

I don't really get all this Kei Leng fanboyism. It's almost as bad as all the Boba Fett fanboys. I honestly hope they don't try to have him one up Shepard. If anything I hope whatever confrontation end up similar to this:

Oh please. Boba Fett never ****ing delivered in the movies. Ever. Not once.

Kai Leng was a proven badass several times in his one novel.  

In any case, I see just as much if not more Kai Leng hatred as I do fanboyism.

Read the Star Wars EU and you will get my drift.

I'm neutral on Kei Leng, I just get annoyed with all the hype. At best He should be a decent match for Shepard. Regardless, I am not gonna have the high hopes that so many have for him as a character. To me he will cannon fodder that Cerberus will fling my way. Nothin more nothing less.

[TheShogunOfHarlem]

Saphra Deden wrote...

I sure hope the window glass on starships is shatter proof...

You know that skylight always made me uncomfortable. It's a structural weakness right where the captain sleeps. I'd rather have my quaraters away from the outer walls of the ship.

My guess that it was a breaching charge that blew the window.

[Xilizhra]

I'd be interested, but Kai Leng would ultimately be a relatively minor obstacle. One whom I'd enjoy fighting, though.

Though... maybe Anderson should get to kill him.

Modifié par Xilizhra, 13 septembre 2011 - 05:21 .

[ThePwener]

longlun wrote...

Do Shepard and Kai Leng have a history?

None. All they have in common with any background/player choice is that they are both ex-N7 marines.

Modifié par ThePwener, 13 septembre 2011 - 05:23 .

[Swimming Ferret]

I'll feed Kai Leng to my robotic dog when I get into a punch up with that weasel.

[Swimming Ferret]

Saphra Deden wrote...

This is a good example of why Shepard needs to meet his match so he can be taken down a notch.

The arrogance is astounding.

Are we talking about the same commander?

[ThePwener]

Saphra Deden wrote...

This is a good example of why Shepard needs to meet his match so he can be taken down a notch.

The arrogance is astounding.

That guy got his ass kicked by a 50-year-old man, a blonde Mary Sue, and a posessed puppet.

Shepard killed a Posessed-Zombie-Cyborg-Saren, a giant Human-Reaper and is able to outlast the Object Rho fight. It would be a plot-hole if Shepard gets his ass kicked by Leng.

[stysiaq]

ThePwener wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

This is a good example of why Shepard needs to meet his match so he can be taken down a notch.

The arrogance is astounding.

That guy got his ass kicked by a 50-year-old man, a blonde Mary Sue, and a posessed puppet.

Shepard killed a Posessed-Zombie-Cyborg-Saren, a giant Human-Reaper and is able to outlast the Object Rho fight. It would be a plot-hole if Shepard gets his ass kicked by Leng.

As I said, Raider of the Lost Ark - like showdown it is going to be.

At the moment Shep is able to kill Kai Leng with his talk-jutsu alone. One renegade/paragon test and he cuts his head off.

Well, but I guess the game needs some not-Reaper-size antagonist/antihero, just like ME had Saren and ME2 had TIM.

[UnadoptedTrack]

I hated Kai Leng in the novels, I'll hate him just as much in the games. I don't care how it plays out, as long as I get to put a bullet through his head.

[ThePwener]

UnadoptedTrack wrote...

I hated Kai Leng in the novels, I'll hate him just as much in the games.

The guy who writes the novel's characters aren't the same that write the game's. 

[UnadoptedTrack]

ThePwener wrote...

The guy who writes the novel's characters aren't the same that write the game's. 

...Does that really matter? Is he going to suddenly be less evil, less xenophobic? I don't think so. And if that ain't good enough reason for me to hate him, he's going to try and kill me! I think that's enough reason in it's self.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Personally, I would like the fight to be like this:



Yeah, I know, QTE's. But believe me, I don't see any better way.

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 13 septembre 2011 - 06:14 .

[ThePwener]

UnadoptedTrack wrote...

ThePwener wrote...

The guy who writes the novel's characters aren't the same that write the game's. 

...Does that really matter? Is he going to suddenly be less evil, less xenophobic? I don't think so. And if that ain't good enough reason for me to hate him, he's going to try and kill me! I think that's enough reason in it's self.

He'll be different. Break from the stramline and think for a bit. Don't assume or jump to conclusions before even playing the freaking game.

/Polite

[Leonia]

Xilizhra wrote...

I'd be interested, but Kai Leng would ultimately be a relatively minor obstacle. One whom I'd enjoy fighting, though.

Though... maybe Anderson should get to kill him.

Anderson should have killed him when he had the chance but oh no, his paragon nature had to take over.

But I agree, I'd rather it be a minor obstacle, albeit quite challenging.

[Leonia]

ThePwener wrote...

UnadoptedTrack wrote...

ThePwener wrote...

The guy who writes the novel's characters aren't the same that write the game's. 

...Does that really matter? Is he going to suddenly be less evil, less xenophobic? I don't think so. And if that ain't good enough reason for me to hate him, he's going to try and kill me! I think that's enough reason in it's self.

He'll be different. Break from the stramline and think for a bit. Don't assume or jump to conclusions before even playing the freaking game.

/Polite

Uh, I doubt they'll retcon a character that has been properly fleshed out in the novels. That's not a baseless assumption, especially when we've seen characters like Anderson, TIM, Aria, etc. being consistent between their novel and in-game counterparts.

[UnadoptedTrack]

leonia42 wrote...

Uh, I doubt they'll retcon a character that has been properly fleshed out in the novels. That's not a baseless assumption, especially when we've seen characters like Anderson, TIM, Aria, etc. being consistent between their novel and in-game counterparts.

Thank you.

[didymos1120]

ThePwener wrote...

He'll be different.

TIM wasn't different from Ascension. Saren and Anderson weren't different from Revelation, just older. Feron and Aria weren't different from Redemption. Etc.   No reason to expect Kai Leng will be the exception.

ETA: ninja'd

Modifié par didymos1120, 13 septembre 2011 - 06:20 .

[ThePwener]

leonia42 wrote...

ThePwener wrote...

UnadoptedTrack wrote...

ThePwener wrote...

The guy who writes the novel's characters aren't the same that write the game's. 

...Does that really matter? Is he going to suddenly be less evil, less xenophobic? I don't think so. And if that ain't good enough reason for me to hate him, he's going to try and kill me! I think that's enough reason in it's self.

He'll be different. Break from the stramline and think for a bit. Don't assume or jump to conclusions before even playing the freaking game.

/Polite

Uh, I doubt they'll retcon a character that has been properly fleshed out in the novels. That's not a baseless assumption, especially when we've seen characters like Anderson, TIM, Aria, etc. being consistent between their novel and in-game counterparts.

Let my writer's imagination take over for a bit.

He failed a mission for TIM, his master and leash. By the end of the novel, he was broken and feared TIM would rid himself of him. When ME3 starts, he is out to get even, and has become even more ferocious and wants to take out Anderson and his protege at all costs, to Cerberus or himself.

or....

Has been completaly broken, and this is his last chance to prove himself in TIM's eyes. He has become a pal shadow of his former self, but still dangerous.

See, it's not a retcon when you use your head. It can also be done in many other forms.

[UnadoptedTrack]

ThePwener wrote...
Let my writer's imagination take over for a bit.

He failed a mission for TIM, his master and leash. By the end of the novel, he was broken and feared TIM would rid himself of him. When ME3 starts, he is out to get even, and has become even more ferocious and wants to take out Anderson and his protege at all costs, to Cerberus or himself.

or....

Has been completaly broken, and this is his last chance to prove himself in TIM's eyes. He has become a pal shadow of his former self, but still dangerous.

See, it's not a retcon when you use your head. It can also be done in many other forms.

That's very unlikely. When I read it, it still seemed like he was ready for anything.

[ThePwener]

UnadoptedTrack wrote...

That's very unlikely. When I read it, it still seemed like he was ready for anything.

It was the heat of the moment, you don't know what TIM said to him on his failure, or what he did to him for his failure. Torture? Conditioning? TIM has an army of indoctrinated (possibly indoctrinated civilians or clones) in ME3, that guy is as pragmatic as can get.

[UnadoptedTrack]

ThePwener wrote...
It was the heat of the moment, you don't know what TIM said to him on his failure, or what he did to him for his failure. Torture? Conditioning? TIM has an army of indoctrinated (possibly indoctrinated civilians or clones) in ME3, that guy is as pragmatic as can get.

The Illusive Man is cold, ruthless and most likely racist. But, he's not stupid. He wouldn't torture one of his top operatives, especially when the job was completed, albeit not the way T.I.M. wanted it to go, but it was completed none the less.