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[lazuli]

Ghost Lightning wrote...

robarcool wrote...

Ghost Lightning wrote...

The only hard part of ME2 was the Collector ship on Insanity. And that was poor level design, not actual difficulty. So I doubt ME3 will make the same mistakes and thus be more challenging, but more managable.

You are talking about the praetorian I guess?

No, the platforms.

Yeah, the Praetorian is not a problem if you can just keep your squad from walking around underneath it.  The platforms can be a bit more frustrating, but that's why Bioware gave us Stasis and the Arc Projector.

To get back on topic, I hope that the casual setting remains approachable to new and more story-focused players.  There's no reason not to welcome more players to a great franchise like Mass Effect.

[Anacronian Stryx]

neenee77 wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

A friend of mine told me he thought Mass Effect was the "God damn hardest game he ever played" - I was somewhat confused ad asked him how he'd leveled up his powers.. "powers?" he answered.

Imagine that he had played all the way though Eden Prime + All the citadel missions + Feros without ever taking a single level.. i was impressed

Point is that if you find a game exceedingly hard you're often overlooking something.

thx i will pay attention. I have one of my characters (female infiltrator) at the collector base. I have only died 1 time with that character. but i camp and pick off. I have maxed out my incinerate also which is a godsend. because of that play style it gets hard with husks, but i have the kestral armor so i can hit them. i just get overwhwelmed mentally and emotionally because i get scared. not really of dying just the bad guys in general (i really get into it lol). so if they doo add to the diffuculty then that is my fear that i will just get too scared and/or frustrated and not play. thus not be able to finish the story i have come to love. BTW, that amazing that he went that long without leveling up, kudos to him.

I envy you.. i really wish i still could get that "into" a game.

[KotorEffect3]

You can always install the game on the console, I actualy had to install it on my 360 because my 360 was getting disc reading errors.

[bazzag]

Personally, i don't care how hard the game is. As long as the story is engrossing in story driven games, and the gameplay is good, the game has a length to it and i enjoy it, then i don't care. I completed me1/me2/dao and da2 on the easiest difficulty because i'm one of those people who would sooner complete the game with an ease, allowing you to enjoy the story more, as opposed to getting stressed because you've tried to get past the same place for hours and still haven't gotten past it.

[string3r]

Aside from the collector ambush ME2 was ****** easy on normal.

[Bcuz]

string3r wrote...

Aside from the collector ambush ME2 was ****** easy on normal.

*vanguard charge*
NOPE.avi

[KotorEffect3]

bazzag wrote...

Personally, i don't care how hard the game is. As long as the story is engrossing in story driven games, and the gameplay is good, the game has a length to it and i enjoy it, then i don't care. I completed me1/me2/dao and da2 on the easiest difficulty because i'm one of those people who would sooner complete the game with an ease, allowing you to enjoy the story more, as opposed to getting stressed because you've tried to get past the same place for hours and still haven't gotten past it.

I get what you are saying but I want ME 3 to last longer because I have been anticipating that game for years now.  So if the difficulty is hard enough it will lengthen fights make the story sections more worth it because I felt like I had to fight to advance the story and it will lenghthen the game for me.  My only worry is that I will end up rushing myself because I want to savor my first playthrough but then again I am going to be anxious to see how everything plays out.

[Obsidian Gryphon]

I always go for casual in the first playthrough, just to get the story fast. Then raise the level of difficulty in other playthroughs. Insanity is the one I've not tried yet; I don't think I want to fight every opponent sporting shields and armor.   I doubt I'll get through the 5 waves in Arrival. The arc projector is very useful in this one but since there're only 20 shots, it has to be used carefully. I'll often utilise it in the last wave when they bring up the heavy mech. The  Praetorian ... I always play cat & mouse with it.  That's what those boxes on Horizon and that thick pillar on the CS are for.   I think ME3 should be the same as ME2.

Modifié par Obsidian Gryphon, 13 septembre 2011 - 01:24 .

[RyuujinZERO]

I have noticed this trend whereby people feel emasculated to turn the difficulty down to anything below "normal". Unless the OP is genuinely having trouble even at the lowest difficulty setting...

(Personally I play exclusively at insanity difficulty - I like to feel like I've earned my victory :3 )

Modifié par RyuujinZERO, 13 septembre 2011 - 01:30 .

[marshalleck]

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

A friend of mine told me he thought Mass Effect was the "God damn hardest game he ever played" - I was somewhat confused ad asked him how he'd leveled up his powers.. "powers?" he answered.

Imagine that he had played all the way though Eden Prime + All the citadel missions + Feros without ever taking a single level.. i was impressed

Point is that if you find a game exceedingly hard you're often overlooking something.

Not necessarily. Nothing to overlook when it comes to games like Ninja Gaiden, that game is just hard.

Which is why i used the word "Often" and not "Always".

What is this, implying words have meaning and using them meticulously? GET THIS BLACK SORCERY OFF MY BSN! Words mean what I think they mean, and that's final!

Modifié par marshalleck, 13 septembre 2011 - 01:40 .

[KotorEffect3]

I think the OP has a legiitimate concern because people play these games for different reasons. Some people want to just get through the story and they don't want to keep dying before they get to the next chapter so to speak.

[neenee77]

RyuujinZERO wrote...

I have noticed this trend whereby people feel emasculated to turn the difficulty down to anything below "normal". Unless the OP is genuinely having trouble even at the lowest difficulty setting...

(Personally I play exclusively at insanity difficulty - I like to feel like I've earned my victory :3 )

Oh i dont feel emasculated at all. i am female lol. I do have a hard time on the easiest setting in ME2, but in that case it is fear of the collectors. i am actually scared of them even though rationally its just a game. I shake uncontrollably, my heart races, and i have cried before(only once mind you ). That sounds so ridiculous but it is true. My question/statement is about them making all the levels equal to the next level up in ME3. like instead of easy it will be normal, or insanity will be suicide (and it will mean it). Here is an article about the new gameplay if you would like to take a look. Being an infiltrator and sniper for all of the game i like to camp. If i cant do that and if the bad guys think more, react more, and counter more then my feeling is that i am screwed unless i have unlimited ammo/powers at my disposal. plus i will die alot. maybe i wont. I am not so afraid of dying. i am afraid of the bad guys and no being able to pass a level. oh, here is the link: http://gamerant.com/...ive-dyce-94759/ maybe you can help me out with how this will work because i dont really understand.

[RyuujinZERO]

Ah, yeah I can understand there, raising the bar on the easiest setting seems kind of redundant (they'd need to rename it "not-so-easy" mode).

Looking at the article part the difficulty stems from their ability to react more intelligently. But in the older ME games advanced behaviours like special skills were modified by difficulty level, I imagine it'd be much the same in easy mode they'd use advanced tactics less (if at all) mitigating the increase in difficulty it provides at higehr difficulties.

Modifié par RyuujinZERO, 13 septembre 2011 - 01:49 .

[neenee77]

RyuujinZERO wrote...

Ah, yeah I can understand there, raising the bar on the easiest setting seems kind of redundant (they'd need to rename it "not-so-easy" mode).

Looking at the article part the difficulty stems from their ability to react more intelligently. But in the older ME games advanced behaviours like special skills were modified by difficulty level, I imagine it'd be much the same in easy mode they'd use advanced tactics less (if at all) mitigating the increase in difficulty it provides at higehr difficulties.

I hope so. or based on the skills you currently have leveled up, similar to what they have in dragon age 2. if they can match it too you maybe it wont be so bad. then again they are giving you the ability to carry any weapon you want which will be awesome. I can play as a biotic and have my sniper rifle and the battle rifle. or play as infiltrator and have a battle rifle as well.

[KotorEffect3]

neenee77 wrote...

RyuujinZERO wrote...

Ah, yeah I can understand there, raising the bar on the easiest setting seems kind of redundant (they'd need to rename it "not-so-easy" mode).

Looking at the article part the difficulty stems from their ability to react more intelligently. But in the older ME games advanced behaviours like special skills were modified by difficulty level, I imagine it'd be much the same in easy mode they'd use advanced tactics less (if at all) mitigating the increase in difficulty it provides at higehr difficulties.

I hope so. or based on the skills you currently have leveled up, similar to what they have in dragon age 2. if they can match it too you maybe it wont be so bad. then again they are giving you the ability to carry any weapon you want which will be awesome. I can play as a biotic and have my sniper rifle and the battle rifle. or play as infiltrator and have a battle rifle as well.

Just out of curiosity what is your preffered class in the first two games?

[neenee77]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

neenee77 wrote...

RyuujinZERO wrote...

Ah, yeah I can understand there, raising the bar on the easiest setting seems kind of redundant (they'd need to rename it "not-so-easy" mode).

Looking at the article part the difficulty stems from their ability to react more intelligently. But in the older ME games advanced behaviours like special skills were modified by difficulty level, I imagine it'd be much the same in easy mode they'd use advanced tactics less (if at all) mitigating the increase in difficulty it provides at higehr difficulties.

I hope so. or based on the skills you currently have leveled up, similar to what they have in dragon age 2. if they can match it too you maybe it wont be so bad. then again they are giving you the ability to carry any weapon you want which will be awesome. I can play as a biotic and have my sniper rifle and the battle rifle. or play as infiltrator and have a battle rifle as well.

Just out of curiosity what is your preffered class in the first two games?

I have a PS3 so i dont have the first one. but infiltrator is my preferred class. however, i have recently been playing the biotic and have found its actually alot easier in most of the game (gotten about half way). tried the vangard but kept getting myself killed by charging. I gave up on the character for now. may pick it up later after i play somemore.

[KotorEffect3]

neenee77 wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

neenee77 wrote...

RyuujinZERO wrote...

Ah, yeah I can understand there, raising the bar on the easiest setting seems kind of redundant (they'd need to rename it "not-so-easy" mode).

Looking at the article part the difficulty stems from their ability to react more intelligently. But in the older ME games advanced behaviours like special skills were modified by difficulty level, I imagine it'd be much the same in easy mode they'd use advanced tactics less (if at all) mitigating the increase in difficulty it provides at higehr difficulties.

I hope so. or based on the skills you currently have leveled up, similar to what they have in dragon age 2. if they can match it too you maybe it wont be so bad. then again they are giving you the ability to carry any weapon you want which will be awesome. I can play as a biotic and have my sniper rifle and the battle rifle. or play as infiltrator and have a battle rifle as well.

Just out of curiosity what is your preffered class in the first two games?

I have a PS3 so i dont have the first one. but infiltrator is my preferred class. however, i have recently been playing the biotic and have found its actually alot easier in most of the game (gotten about half way). tried the vangard but kept getting myself killed by charging. I gave up on the character for now. may pick it up later after i play somemore.

Yeah vanguard is my personal favorite but I end up getting splattered more with that one.  Vangard is a high risk high reward class.  Infiltrator is a good one becase you can move around the battle field undetected and you can take out enemies at a distance.  I think a good biotic class for you though would be the sentinel.  The tech armor makes you sturdier and you get access to both biotic and tech powers which is good for stripping down enemy protection.

[neenee77]

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Just out of curiosity what is your preffered class in the first two games?[/quote]

I have a PS3 so i dont have the first one. but infiltrator is my preferred class. however, i have recently been playing the biotic and have found its actually alot easier in most of the game (gotten about half way). tried the vangard but kept getting myself killed by charging. I gave up on the character for now. may pick it up later after i play somemore.[/quote]


Yeah vanguard is my personal favorite but I end up getting splattered more with that one.  Vangard is a high risk high reward class.  Infiltrator is a good one becase you can move around the battle field undetected and you can take out enemies at a distance.  I think a good biotic class for you though would be the sentinel.  The tech armor makes you sturdier and you get access to both biotic and tech powers which is good for stripping down enemy protection.[/quote]

I was thinking about that the other day. I think i will definately try it out. thanks. I may try that class in ME3 first. it may help me get a feel for the game without having to worry too much. thank you so much!

[LadyJaneGrey]

OP:  I'm more of a play-for-the-story type too.  Have you looked at any of the strategy guides in the ME forums?  Even if you don't follow the builds religiously, seeing other people's tactics and reasoning can help. 

And I know this sounds counter-intuitive if you're dying a lot, but have you tried bumping up the difficulty on DA2 or ME2?  Once I actually had to start paying attention to the party's abilities and enemies' tactics, I died much less often than on lower settings.

And I second the sentinel recommendation if you want to feel competent for nearly any combat situation.

[Golden Owl]

Obsidian Gryphon wrote...

I always go for casual in the first playthrough, just to get the story fast. Then raise the level of difficulty in other playthroughs. Insanity is the one I've not tried yet; I don't think I want to fight every opponent sporting shields and armor.   I doubt I'll get through the 5 waves in Arrival. The arc projector is very useful in this one but since there're only 20 shots, it has to be used carefully. I'll often utilise it in the last wave when they bring up the heavy mech. The  Praetorian ... I always play cat & mouse with it.  That's what those boxes on Horizon and that thick pillar on the CS are for.   I think ME3 should be the same as ME2.

I know what you mean there...I hold off as long as I can before each blast with the Arc Projector, waiting for the mooks to group first....after zapping the grouped mooks, quickly sniping the attempting flankers, then back out with the Projector for the next round...that keeps the Projecter ammo going just long enough....I generally end up with two zaps left.

[adonfraz]

The devs said "Normal is going to be the new veteran." They didn't say casual was going to be harder. Besides, if you've been following ME3 and the new powers/evolutions, you'd see Shepard is stronger too.

[TheShogunOfHarlem]

Mass Effect 2 hard?!?! I hope you're joking.