227 réponses à ce sujet

[Golden Owl]

TheShogunOfHarlem wrote...

Mass Effect 2 hard?!?! I hope you're joking.

Was for me at first...aside from a couple of casual games of Farcry2....ME was my first real introduction to Shooters...it took me a long time to get over the fear of doing anything more than Casual....slowly made my way to Veteran and finally found the nerve to jump from Veteran to Insanity...I have a couple of full Insanity runs now....but it took me a long time before I even tried it and a couple of failed attempts...Now days, I enjoy most of the game on Insanity barring three missions which I drop to Veteran...taking on CQC Husks and Varren remains a real challenge for me...I suck at CQC.

[Kusy]

because of threads like this one.

But I too cheat in RPGs... because I don't like combat in them... then again, I think I do understand the point of view - my girlfriend cheats in both Dragon Ages because she don't want to be bothere dying.

Modifié par Mr.Kusy, 13 septembre 2011 - 02:56 .

[The_11thDoctor]

... really?



try learning the game before crying about ME3 being too difficult. If easy is too hard, just practice. You're prob not a natural gamer and not very coordinated. You just have to play games until you get better. You can't jump into ME as your first ever games and expect to be any good. Most hardcore gamers have 20+ years of playing them and building hand and eye coordination.

ME and DA arent even tough RPGs. They're Action RPG or more a Shooter with RPG sprinkled on top. If you played a JRPG, you'd see how tough a RPG is. Play a Tactical RPG like Disgaea or something and you'd see how hard RPGs are. Play Demon Souls and you'll see a Action RPG that's hard. I have a 100s+ list of great RPGs and a list of hard ones, but DA2 or ME2 as hard? Not so. Not in the least. Only thing that made DA2 hard parse would be the huge amount of glitches. The collectors ship on insanity do to it's design and terrible AI for party members you have+glitches makes that hard, but the level itself isnt.

[RPGamer13]

Yeah, Mass Effect 2 was annoying even on the easiest setting. I had to take far less cover in Gears of War 2 on Casual than I did in ME2 on the easiest setting.

So, I will be upset myself if ME3 will be even harder even on the easiest setting.

[Killer3000ad]

I really don't want to criticize people who have trouble with ME2 on easy, but seriously..... I have 9 completed playthroughs under my belt on Insanity and I find the difficulty just about right to make me pay a little bit of attention.

If anything I want ME3 Insanity to be at least twice as hard as ME2's insanity. But I guess if some people have trouble with easy, then a new level called,"Just tell me a story" should be made.

Modifié par Killer3000ad, 13 septembre 2011 - 03:24 .

[TheShogunOfHarlem]

Golden Owl wrote...

TheShogunOfHarlem wrote...

Mass Effect 2 hard?!?! I hope you're joking.

Was for me at first...aside from a couple of casual games of Farcry2....ME was my first real introduction to Shooters...it took me a long time to get over the fear of doing anything more than Casual....slowly made my way to Veteran and finally found the nerve to jump from Veteran to Insanity...I have a couple of full Insanity runs now....but it took me a long time before I even tried it and a couple of failed attempts...Now days, I enjoy most of the game on Insanity barring three missions which I drop to Veteran...taking on CQC Husks and Varren remains a real challenge for me...I suck at CQC.

Generally, I suck at games. I knew that from the get go. (To this day I can't beat Super Mario Bros) Coming to terms with my casual gamer skills, I still prefer to challenge myself. I always start on normal (easy is an insult) winging it and work my way up. If it takes me a year to beat one game then so be it. At least the game was worth my money. If a game takes me only two days to beat then I sadly wasted my money. (which I have)

I just get annoyed when developers feel the need to make their games short an easy. An example of difficulty downgrade from ME1 to 2 are the lack of snipers in ME2 and that most Biotic (save Vasir) only use Warp. I miss the days when dealing with enemy biotics had to handled with care lest you die because of carelessness. Getting knocked off you **** in ME1 to me was way superior than just getting staggered.  

[Greed1914]

I don't mind the idea of upping the difficulty.  3rd person action games (it doesn't matter if it's shooting or hack n' slash) are easily my best types of games, though I tend to be good at any game, to be honest.  So, if a game like Mass Effect wants to try to challenge me more, I welcome that.

[TheShogunOfHarlem]

jreezy wrote...

TheShogunOfHarlem wrote...

Mass Effect 2 hard?!?! I hope you're joking.

I hope you are too.<_<

I'm not.

Edit:
Other than dealing with Praetorians Scions backed up by hordes of Husks, the game at times felt like a walk in the park in comparison to ME1.

Modifié par TheShogunOfHarlem, 13 septembre 2011 - 04:24 .

[quaigee]

aang001 wrote...

... really?



try learning the game before crying about ME3 being too difficult. If easy is too hard, just practice. You're prob not a natural gamer and not very coordinated. You just have to play games until you get better. You can't jump into ME as your first ever games and expect to be any good. Most hardcore gamers have 20+ years of playing them and building hand and eye coordination.

ME and DA arent even tough RPGs. They're Action RPG or more a Shooter with RPG sprinkled on top. If you played a JRPG, you'd see how tough a RPG is. Play a Tactical RPG like Disgaea or something and you'd see how hard RPGs are. Play Demon Souls and you'll see a Action RPG that's hard. I have a 100s+ list of great RPGs and a list of hard ones, but DA2 or ME2 as hard? Not so. Not in the least. Only thing that made DA2 hard parse would be the huge amount of glitches. The collectors ship on insanity do to it's design and terrible AI for party members you have+glitches makes that hard, but the level itself isnt.

I love how you can say "just practice" so easily. I hope you realize that not everyone has time to practice for the sake of being better in a video game. Some of us work, have families, and lives. I'm pretty good at Mass Effect, but I certainly understand if someone just wants to play the game for the story and not worry about "practicing". I'm a story guy myself. I've played on insanity and I can't say I've enjoyed the game any more because of the increased difficulity. 

[Biotic Sage]

Some people need to realize that games aren't just for the hardcore, young adult male crowd anymore. Bioware has done such great things with story, characters, and role playing that the appeal of modern video games has broadened. This means that developers have a responsibility to differentiate gameplay and accommodate as many types of people who want to play the game as they can.

People shouldn't have to be "good at video games" in order to play through Mass Effect and experience a great story. That's what casual mode is for, and if some people want an even MORE casual mode, I say give it to them. They shouldn't be shut out from the experience just because they don't commit as much time practicing and honing their video games skills.

I play Hard/Insanity only, but I don't scoff at someone who plays casual; I'm just thrilled they are getting to experience Mass Effect despite the fact that they aren't "gamer people."

Edit* quaigee, ya ninja'ed me haha.  And well said.

Modifié par Biotic Sage, 13 septembre 2011 - 04:28 .

[quaigee]

Biotic Sage wrote...
Edit* quaigee, ya ninja'ed me haha.  And well said.

Haha, thanks. I think you put it even better than I did. Have a free alien! --> 

[didymos1120]

quaigee wrote...

I love how you can say "just practice" so easily. I hope you realize that not everyone has time to practice for the sake of being better in a video game. Some of us work, have families, and lives.

Not to mention, people who have disabilities and illnesses that affect coordination/response time/etc. can and do enjoy playing games.

[Golden Owl]

TheShogunOfHarlem wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

TheShogunOfHarlem wrote...

Mass Effect 2 hard?!?! I hope you're joking.

Was for me at first...aside from a couple of casual games of Farcry2....ME was my first real introduction to Shooters...it took me a long time to get over the fear of doing anything more than Casual....slowly made my way to Veteran and finally found the nerve to jump from Veteran to Insanity...I have a couple of full Insanity runs now....but it took me a long time before I even tried it and a couple of failed attempts...Now days, I enjoy most of the game on Insanity barring three missions which I drop to Veteran...taking on CQC Husks and Varren remains a real challenge for me...I suck at CQC.

Generally, I suck at games. I knew that from the get go. (To this day I can't beat Super Mario Bros) Coming to terms with my casual gamer skills, I still prefer to challenge myself. I always start on normal (easy is an insult) winging it and work my way up. If it takes me a year to beat one game then so be it. At least the game was worth my money. If a game takes me only two days to beat then I sadly wasted my money. (which I have)

I just get annoyed when developers feel the need to make their games short an easy. An example of difficulty downgrade from ME1 to 2 are the lack of snipers in ME2 and that most Biotic (save Vasir) only use Warp. I miss the days when dealing with enemy biotics had to handled with care lest you die because of carelessness. Getting knocked off you **** in ME1 to me was way superior than just getting staggered.  

I will agree with that....I would like counter snipers to return and mooks powers to give Shep more of a hiding, keep Shep on his toes.......As for game play Insanity is much more difficult on ME1 than ME2....though granted that has more to do with and even dumber AI squad and not being able to place them as well as I can in ME3 (I'm on XBox) than mook attacks....aside from the Rachni......they own my Shep repeatedly...

[ThePwener]

OMG they said it was harder OMG I'll jump to conclusions and think it is impossible OMG must make thread and push my wack theories I made in my mind to others OMG Im so clever

[neenee77]

Killer3000ad wrote...

I really don't want to criticize people who have trouble with ME2 on easy, but seriously..... I have 9 completed playthroughs under my belt on Insanity and I find the difficulty just about right to make me pay a little bit of attention.

If anything I want ME3 Insanity to be at least twice as hard as ME2's insanity. But I guess if some people have trouble with easy, then a new level called,"Just tell me a story" should be made.

Yes i agree.

[TheShogunOfHarlem]

Biotic Sage wrote...

Some people need to realize that games aren't just for the hardcore, young adult male crowd anymore. Bioware has done such great things with story, characters, and role playing that the appeal of modern video games has broadened. This means that developers have a responsibility to differentiate gameplay and accommodate as many types of people who want to play the game as they can.

People shouldn't have to be "good at video games" in order to play through Mass Effect and experience a great story. That's what casual mode is for, and if some people want an even MORE casual mode, I say give it to them. They shouldn't be shut out from the experience just because they don't commit as much time practicing and honing their video games skills.

I play Hard/Insanity only, but I don't scoff at someone who plays casual; I'm just thrilled they are getting to experience Mass Effect despite the fact that they aren't "gamer people."

Edit* quaigee, ya ninja'ed me haha.  And well said.

Fair Enough. However I don't think making games easier is the solution. By my own admission I have stated that I am horrible at video games and that I wing it a lot of the times. That doesn't mean that I want developers to hold my hands a give me an easy game that I can beat in two days. In spite of my skills I do wish to be challenged. I don't begrudge or look down upon people who play games on easy but I do get annoyed when people start griping about games being too hard. From my perspective they are getting too easy. Go fugure. 

[el master pr]

I, for one, used to play ME as a shooter, thus ignoring powers completely. The last ME1 playthrough I did using powers, and the difference is incredible. ME is so much easier when you learn how to use all the resources at hand. I haven't been able to start another Soldier playthrough, but after I finish DA:O (which, btw, has forced taught me to use powers even more) I will go Insanity playthrough in ME2, and just flat out ignore my Vanguard playthrough.

Side note: Vanguard is cool, and charging even more, but not appealing to my playstyle. To each his own, right?

[Golden Owl]

ThePwener wrote...

OMG they said it was harder OMG I'll jump to conclusions and think it is impossible OMG must make thread and push my wack theories I made in my mind to others OMG Im so clever

Don't be horrible....and look at what BW has said in relation to upping the difficulty...OP has a point of concern.

[Ryzaki]

OP I have similar issues but luckily I play on PC.

Godmode solves any issues.

[Myaku1313]

If easy is too hard I think it's a problem on the users end. Increase Difficulty!