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[1136342t54_]

AdmiralCheez wrote...
Should you ever wish to, the offer is extended.

Nah I'll just say "Kiss the ring ****."

And like I said so many times, Ash in full combat armor would be awesome.  But still, there's no guarantee.  What I'm doing here is assuming the worst case scenario.  If I'm wrong, then yay!  Good times in ME3.

Then you are admitedly ****ing about something that might happen. Awesome .

Then what do you suggest?  As far as I know, the forums are pretty much the only resource people have if they want to impact game design decisions.  If I b*tch loud enough and get enough people to b*tch with me, I may be able to impose my will upon the mighty Bioware.

Forums aren't places to **** on. Its just that so many idiot posters thought it grand to just **** and moan about crap and bioware devs have to actually search for reasonable arguments.

As for the ass comment...  I get that a lot.  Must be my stunning looks, superior intellect, and charming personality makin' y'all jealous.

Not really. I was calling yo uan ass because you basically said you were since you admitted to ****ing and moanings

See, there's character development and there's WTF WRITERS.  Dramatic and sudden changes in a character's personality that have little context are the latter.  I did expect Liara to grow, but suddenly she's a white collar mobster?  Lol wut.  Thankfully, LotSB "rescued" her character, providing both context and character development.  It made Psycho!Liara make sense, then gave her an opportunity to grow into a much stronger (and less crazy) individual.

What did you expect? Liara in ME1 realized her mother was working with someone who wanted to destroy the galaxy and was killed. She also had to kill a lot more people than usual. Also the Normandy the one place she likely had some friends was destroyed. She attempted to save shepard and eventually lost another friend who she loved and had to give shepard away to Cerberus. That type of **** will change someone who is basically a civillian and not hardened by fighting.

I admit that Kaidan/Ashley isn't going to be the exact same person we knew on ME1.  In fact, it's silly to think they will be.  But that person does not have to be a complete rewrite of their character.  It would be a strong disservice to change the essence of who they are.  And hell, maybe the outfit doesn't.  But if it's a sign of what to come...  Well, sh*t.  There goes one of my favorite squadmates.

Liara is the only character that has even come close to a large amount of personality change. Even then it was for the best.

WELL DUH.  But they don't have to be ridiculously oversexed to be good, either.

I never said that.

They might.  After all, the industry still assumes they're the ones playing all the videogames.

Now, I'm not saying the media doesn't paint unrealistic expectations for men.  However, I might have to do some research here to find out to what extent.  As it is, it seems that the "regular guy" is waaaaay more common than the "regular girl."

Its common knowledge that women are sexualized in media. My problem with some people is that they think we haven't progressed even though things have been a lot worse for women in the past and it will likely change in the future.

[1136342t54_]

who would know wrote...
The point is that just because a character is attractive doesn't mean its bad.

When was that ever implied? You seem to be missing the point that Ashley was attractive before being made into ubiquitous video game TNA.
Read Admiral Cheez's earlier post.

Give it up already man. Ash's outfit is her equivalent to Kaidan's armor. They both feature in the same DLC appearance pack. And the reason Ash has been singled out to be the sexy soldier instead of the practical soldier, like every other one of her male peers, is because she is female.

Since you have such undeniable proof of that I'm assuming that you work for bioware.

Edit: Just so you know I'm actually going to do the logical thing and wait until we see more videos and more of Ash's armor like I suggest you do.

Modifié par 1136342t54 , 15 septembre 2011 - 12:03 .

[Iakus]

1136342t54 wrote...

Edit: Just so you know I'm actually going to do the logical thing and wait until we see more videos and more of Ash's armor like I suggest you do.

And I intend to make my feelings known before it's too late to change anything.  If Bioware decides to release some more information in the meantime that calms my fears.  So much the better.

[1136342t54_]

iakus wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

Edit: Just so you know I'm actually going to do the logical thing and wait until we see more videos and more of Ash's armor like I suggest you do.

And I intend to make my feelings known before it's too late to change anything.  If Bioware decides to release some more information in the meantime that calms my fears.  So much the better.

Its ARMOR. It isn't impossible for Bioware to add in the armor a couple months before the game comes out. Like I said I'm waiting for more videos to come out not a few weeks before launch.

[AdmiralCheez]

1136342t54 wrote...

Its common knowledge that women are sexualized in media. My problem with some people is that they think we haven't progressed even though things have been a lot worse for women in the past and it will likely change in the future.

I say, f*ck the future, let's change it now.

Additionally, "it's common knowledge" and "it used to be worse" are not arguments.  In fact, it's part of the reason that the problem still exists.

I have a right to be tired of this sh*t, I have a right to complain, and I'm allowed to expect better from a company that has buit a reputation on being better than the rest.

I also have a right to blow things way the hell out of proportion whenever I please, thank you very much.  You seem smart enough to get the point behind all my hot air.

[Iakus]

jreezy wrote...

who would know wrote...
Ash's outfit is her equivalent to Kaidan's armor.

Because if ANYONE would know this, it'd be you huh?

It's far ans away the most likely scenerio, particularly given the AAP pictures also had Kaidan in armor and Ash dressed as a secretary with an assault rifle.

[jeweledleah]

alternate appearance pack that comes with collector's edition. Vega... is wearing heavy armor.
Kaidan... is wearing heavy armor.
Liara... is wearing recolor of her shadow broker armor (and we know its not civilian clothes for her, because we saw her in 2 different dresses in civilian situations)
Ashley... recolor of her rescue from earth outfit

why are we still saying that its not her equivalent of armor?

bioware has claimed that Ashley does get alternate armor that actually looks like armor. I'm assuming they are talking about something like loyalty outfits from ME2. we have yet to see any sight of it.

[who would know]

jreezy wrote...

who would know wrote...
Ash's outfit is her equivalent to Kaidan's armor.

Because if ANYONE would know this, it'd be you huh?

Prove me wrong. I wish you could.

Modifié par who would know, 15 septembre 2011 - 12:32 .

[1136342t54_]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

I say, f*ck the future, let's change it now.

Impossible. When I say future I mean it as anytime in the future like a few months or a few years.

Additionally, "it's common knowledge" and "it used to be worse" are not arguments.  In fact, it's part of the reason that the problem still exists.

Not it isn't. I'm saying it was worse to inform others that no one has been sitting on there asses doing nothing until today. People have been working for civil rights for a **** long time and to act like that never happened we haven't come far is disrespectful to the people who worked hard for this. Nothing changes in an instant it takes time for change period.

I have a right to be tired of this sh*t, I have a right to complain, and I'm allowed to expect better from a company that has buit a reputation on being better than the rest.

You have a right to complain and **** but you also have a right to actully try and be smart and constructive with your arguments.

I also have a right to blow things way the hell out of proportion whenever I please, thank you very much.  You seem smart enough to get the point behind all my hot air.

The sad part is that you may still think this is the best way to get a point across. If I  was a dev I would likely search for someone who is actually rather reasonable and isn't just being loud and complaining. Iakus is doing better at this than you.

[Iakus]

jeweledleah wrote...

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alternate appearance pack that comes with collector's edition. Vega... is wearing heavy armor.
Kaidan... is wearing heavy armor.
Liara... is wearing recolor of her shadow broker armor (and we know its not civilian clothes for her, because we saw her in 2 different dresses in civilian situations)
Ashley... recolor of her rescue from earth outfit

why are we still saying that its not her equivalent of armor?

bioware has claimed that Ashley does get alternate armor that actually looks like armor. I'm assuming they are talking about something like loyalty outfits from ME2. we have yet to see any sight of it.

You are so right it's depressing 

[Iakus]

jreezy wrote...

I still think adopting a "wait and see" approach is the best thing to do right now. I see no reason to get worried about this issue yet since BioWare hasn't denied that Ashley will have "appropriate" combat attire.

I worry because "appropriate" is a highly subjective term.

To me "appropriate" for Ash means something that resembles FemShep's armor.  Or at least Tela Vasir's

To Bioware, who knows what that means.  Especially given how the female squadmates dressed in ME2. 

Edit:  A couple of the males ones too, to tell the truth.

Modifié par iakus, 15 septembre 2011 - 01:04 .

[ladyvader]

iakus wrote...

jreezy wrote...

I still think adopting a "wait and see" approach is the best thing to do right now. I see no reason to get worried about this issue yet since BioWare hasn't denied that Ashley will have "appropriate" combat attire.

I worry because "appropriate" is a highly subjective term.

To me "appropriate" for Ash means something that resembles FemShep's armor.  Or at least Tela Vasir's

To Bioware, who knows what that means.  Especially given how the female squadmates dressed in ME2. 

Edit:  A couple of the males ones too, to tell the truth.

BW has already changed Ash from being a tank.  And Ash isn't wearing Alliance armor, but Spectre armor.  Maybe Ash feels being a Spectre she doesn't need the heavy armor anymore. 

I hope that AA isn't what we actually get, because Liara looks is just

[AdmiralCheez]

1136342t54 wrote...

*snip*

Okay.  So I had a big ol' reply all nice and typed out and stuff but I accidentally closed the window.

I think it had something to do with how continuing to fight for causes when they've been fought for in the past doesn't mean that one is disrespecting the people that fought or the progress they've made.

Or something.

It was pretty deep.

Meh, whatever.

[ZenJestr]

jeweledleah wrote...



alternate appearance pack that comes with collector's edition. Vega... is wearing heavy armor.
Kaidan... is wearing heavy armor.
Liara... is wearing recolor of her shadow broker armor (and we know its not civilian clothes for her, because we saw her in 2 different dresses in civilian situations)
Ashley... recolor of her rescue from earth outfit

why are we still saying that its not her equivalent of armor?

bioware has claimed that Ashley does get alternate armor that actually looks like armor. I'm assuming they are talking about something like loyalty outfits from ME2. we have yet to see any sight of it.

when this was leaked, and the fandom inevitably ****ed, Casey said that the image isn't the final production and that is when he revealed that Ash has a full set of armor.

Plus, Vega has casual wear AND battle armor. So, I'm going to go ahead and assume that the Alt. Appearance Pack gives Ash white casual gear and different (unseen) armor.

[Seboist]

I'll only believe Ash is getting proper armor when I see it.

[1136342t54_]

Nyoka wrote...

People have fought real hard for civil rights in the past. Therefore you shouldn't complain about Ashley's lack of armor.

Yep that is exactly what I meant.

[jeweledleah]

ZenJestr wrote...

when this was leaked, and the fandom inevitably ****ed, Casey said that the image isn't the final production and that is when he revealed that Ash has a full set of armor.

Plus, Vega has casual wear AND battle armor. So, I'm going to go ahead and assume that the Alt. Appearance Pack gives Ash white casual gear and different (unseen) armor.

this wasn't leaked.  it was deliberately unveiled once preorders for collector edition became available.. you know, to show people what they would be buying.  and  I ask you again.  why put Kaidan, Liara and Vega in armor if that alternate appearance is Ashley's casual outfit?

/puts tinfoil hat on

what I think happened is that they thought it would get a better reception then it did, concidering Miranda and all and some of innitial responce to Ashley's unveil that went something like: "damn, I'm gonna go back and save her on virmire, she's hot now"

but they post it and people start realizing that no, that outfit she was in a vid is NOT her casual look and the fallout begins and bioware goes, oh crap  and they say- oh don't worry we're giving her armor, all the while frnaticaly scrambling to figure out some armor design for Ashley.

I don't think the armor exists.  we might get it though if we **** loudly enough and show that, we do actualy kinda like Ashley equaly armored as her male counterparts."

/removes tinfoil hat.

[Golden Owl]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

HERESY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Also, ain't that big a deal eh?

To be honest, I hated Ash's new duds at first.

And then I thought about it and was like, meh, I can live with it.

And then I kinda liked 'em.

And suddenly I find out she gets armor too THERE IS A GOD AND HE LOVES US.

But then I realized I spent most of ME1 looking at Kaidan's tush in the elevators.  Just wouldn't be the same with him in bulky armor all the time, y'know?

I had a lot of fun with the elevators at my daughter's expense........I would swing the camera around to focus on manSheps and Kaidans butts....Hey, it made my girls leave me alone........"Mum your SICK!"......works a charm........

[Seboist]

Golden Owl wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

HERESY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Also, ain't that big a deal eh?

To be honest, I hated Ash's new duds at first.

And then I thought about it and was like, meh, I can live with it.

And then I kinda liked 'em.

And suddenly I find out she gets armor too THERE IS A GOD AND HE LOVES US.

But then I realized I spent most of ME1 looking at Kaidan's tush in the elevators.  Just wouldn't be the same with him in bulky armor all the time, y'know?

I had a lot of fun with the elevators at my daughter's expense........I would swing the camera around to focus on manSheps and Kaidans butts....Hey, it made my girls leave me alone........"Mum your SICK!"......works a charm........

Did you focus the camera on Wrex and Garrus' butts too?