Random Omega Citizen: Aaaaah! This station is blowing up! We have to get out of here!Lizardviking wrote...
Seboist wrote...
Hopefully Shisk made it out in time...
Don't worry. If Shisk knows Gavorn´s tricks, he knows how to get out of Omega in time.
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
Kaiser Shepard wrote...
Meh, they should've just stood their ground that time.Xilizhra wrote...
The quarians don't have a good chance of starting a galactic war.According to the Wiki, Ekuna (the planet in question) is located in the Phoenix Massing Nebula, which is right next to the Veil where the Geth belong (heck, the Heretic Station is within the nebula itself). I'd call it the fringe of Council Space, but considering how often the Council cries about not wanting to seem intimidating, they didn't spare any time threatening to destroy the Quarian colony there before they handed it to the Elcor.
Then at least they would've died doing what was just, and the Galaxy would've known that at least a few quarians were brave enough to defy the tyrannical Council.Saphra Deden wrote...
Kaiser Shepard wrote...
Meh, they should've just stood their ground that time.Xilizhra wrote...
The quarians don't have a good chance of starting a galactic war.According to the Wiki, Ekuna (the planet in question) is located in the Phoenix Massing Nebula, which is right next to the Veil where the Geth belong (heck, the Heretic Station is within the nebula itself). I'd call it the fringe of Council Space, but considering how often the Council cries about not wanting to seem intimidating, they didn't spare any time threatening to destroy the Quarian colony there before they handed it to the Elcor.
Suppose the Council stayed true to its threats? The quarians can hardly afford to lose so many people.
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Kaiser Shepard wrote...
Then at least they would've died doing what was just, and the Galaxy would've known that at least a few quarians were brave enough to defy the tyrannical Council.
Modifié par Saphra Deden, 14 septembre 2011 - 07:38 .
If they wanted that, they could have just made a suicide run on the Perseus Veil at any time.Kaiser Shepard wrote...
Hmm, just what went wrong with those quotes? Looked like you pulled a Lotion there.
In any case, they should've just said no, like the great Anita Goyle did during the aftermath of the Sidon incident. Simple as that. Better to go down with some semblance of worth left than to live many more generations in misery and despair on what could hardly be called a fleet.
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Kaiser Shepard wrote...
In any case, they should've just said no, like the great Anita Goyle did during the aftermath of the Sidon incident. Simple as that. Better to go down with some semblance of worth left than to live many more generations in misery and despair on what could hardly be called a fleet.
Seboist wrote...
Hopefully Shisk made it out in time...
I think that is the vorcha you talk to near the quarian's store. The one that walks off.darthnick427 wrote...
Seboist wrote...
Hopefully Shisk made it out in time...
I always thought Shisk was the vorcha that freaked out at you on Mordin's mission when you trie to turn off the fans. They looked pretty similar. Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought I already killed him.
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But that would've been sheer stupidity, not to mention an unjust act (as the geth were in the right during the Morning War).Xilizhra wrote...
If they wanted that, they could have just made a suicide run on the Perseus Veil at any time.Kaiser Shepard wrote...
Hmm, just what went wrong with those quotes? Looked like you pulled a Lotion there.
In any case, they should've just said no, like the great Anita Goyle did during the aftermath of the Sidon incident. Simple as that. Better to go down with some semblance of worth left than to live many more generations in misery and despair on what could hardly be called a fleet.
Submission isn't preferable to extinction, my dear Saren.Saphra Deden wrote...
Better to live in contradiction than to decay righteously.
You humans are all racist!Saphra Deden wrote...
Not that you could tell. They all sound the same, look the same, dress the same, and act the same.
Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 14 septembre 2011 - 08:41 .
Very true.Saphra Deden wrote...
Not that you could tell. They all sound the same, look the same, dress the same, and act the same.
darthnick427 wrote...
Seboist wrote...
Hopefully Shisk made it out in time...
I always thought Shisk was the vorcha that freaked out at you on Mordin's mission when you trie to turn off the fans. They looked pretty similar. Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought I already killed him.
Omega Torsk wrote...
Random Omega Citizen: Aaaaah! This station is blowing up! We have to get out of here!Lizardviking wrote...
Seboist wrote...
Hopefully Shisk made it out in time...
Don't worry. If Shisk knows Gavorn´s tricks, he knows how to get out of Omega in time.
Shisk: Gaaah! You no trick me! You work for Gavorn! Tell Gavorn we know his tricks! We not leave, WE STAY! *tsk*
LOL:lol:Lizardviking wrote...
Omega Torsk wrote...
Random Omega Citizen: Aaaaah! This station is blowing up! We have to get out of here!Lizardviking wrote...
Seboist wrote...
Hopefully Shisk made it out in time...
Don't worry. If Shisk knows Gavorn´s tricks, he knows how to get out of Omega in time.
Shisk: Gaaah! You no trick me! You work for Gavorn! Tell Gavorn we know his tricks! We not leave, WE STAY! *tsk*
Nooo! You lie!
....
You meanihead.
Bwahahaha. Die vorcha, die. Synthetic supremacy. Correction, Team Shepard supremacy.Lizardviking wrote...
Omega Torsk wrote...
Random Omega Citizen: Aaaaah! This station is blowing up! We have to get out of here!Lizardviking wrote...
Seboist wrote...
Hopefully Shisk made it out in time...
Don't worry. If Shisk knows Gavorn´s tricks, he knows how to get out of Omega in time.
Shisk: Gaaah! You no trick me! You work for Gavorn! Tell Gavorn we know his tricks! We not leave, WE STAY! *tsk*
Nooo! You lie!
....
You meanihead.
AdmiralCheez wrote...
I'm sorry I saw TIM and immediately I thought of this:
Guest_laecraft_*
ladyvader wrote...
Humanity is part of the whole. All are important in their own way. Trying to be a bully is not in humanity's best interest. If it wasn't for the Council and the asari, the turians would have done some serious damage to humanity. But they got involved and stopped the war before it truly began.laecraft wrote...
ladyvader wrote...
Greater good for whom? The galaxy as a whole or just humanity? Because if it's the latter than no, it's not for the greater good. It's to stroke his over inflated ego.Kaiser Shepard wrote...
Who's to say TIM isn't destroying/taking over Omega for "the greatest possible good", as you put it in the other thread?Xilizhra wrote...
Well, TIM's the villain, and the only way I would do it is if not doing it meant that some other place was destroyed.
Do you believe that the rest of the galaxy is more important than humanity?
No one piece is more important than the other pieces. That is something Cerberus and TIM fail to understand.
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Xilizhra wrote...
We do have an alliance, it's called the Council.Today's neutrals are tomorrow's aggressors. Unless we forged an alliance with them, they owe us nothing. It makes absolutely no sense to kill your own people for them, unless it's a part of your agenda to promote your species. It's highly unnatural.
Xilizhra wrote...
Actually, I don't think so. Each Reaper is made up from the material of a species, but I don't believe the species' identity or mentality survives; we do know that Sovereign referred to itself with the first person singular, "I am Sovereign." I think each Reaper is a new mind.Fighting for all of the people who exist now, of all species - do you mean, the Reapers included? Because they're species too, because they can feel pain too, and every time you kill a Reaper you destroy a species. You commit genocide. Each of them is a nation. You know how they're born.
Xilizhra wrote...
Only because your situation was poorly phrased and implied that we'd tried everything else and that there was no other way.Trying to protect all the species - this is just hubris. Your efforts are going to be too dispersed. You can't save everyone in the galaxy. You can't even save humanity. You threw them away in an instant in my hypothetical situation. The battle wasn't even lost yet. No second thoughts, no hesitations - not even an attempt to ask that scientist to run his tests again.
Xilizhra wrote...
Plenty of people are pro-human, don't worry.Someone has to be pro-human, for the balance. The aliens aren't going to put humanity first. The Council isn't going to put humanity first. If humans don't put humanity first either, then humanity is as good as gone - and good riddance.
I don't think they outnumber everyone else in the galaxy, so that's unlikely.Well, if you don't like this example, what about the geth, then? They don't have any organic parts at all, but they're sentient. And they're probably more numerous than the rest of the galaxy. They are also not aggressors. They don't care much for the rest of the galaxy. They just kill anyone who approaches their realm. By your logic, since they're a species, live in this galaxy, not aggressors to anyone, and more numerous than anyone else, would you sacrifice the galaxy to save them?
The whole is more important than any individual part, and fighting to the last without surrendering your own is absurd if not doing so will mean everyone's doom. Obviously, I don't want humanity to be destroyed, but if it must be and there's no alternative, then so be it.If you thought that all the species were equal, and no single species is more important than the others, and that all species are a part of the whole, you'd say, "We'll fight for the last without surrendering our own. We'll either live together or die together."
How is the Alliance "pro-alien?" How the hell is Udina that?Actually, I don't see anyone pro-human in ME2, except for Shepard and TIM. The Alliance and the Council are both pro-alien. VS is pro-alien, including Ashley. So is the human Councilor. So is his advisor. All other species are worrying about their own troubles. The Earth is completely silent. It's like nobody except for Cerberus even cares. This doesn't bode well for ME3.
And TIM has skipped all that and gone right to "kill," and Cerberus has followed. I'll take the Council, thanks.Hopefully the rest of the galaxy are holding up well. Shepard gave them a fair warning. He bought them time, twice. In return, they mocked him, shunned him, discredited his view of events, refused to even consider his words, denied help, and spat on his name.
Modifié par Xilizhra, 15 septembre 2011 - 01:47 .
Saphra Deden wrote...
Not that you could tell. They all sound the same, look the same, dress the same, and act the same.
Guest_laecraft_*
Xilizhra wrote...
The whole is more important than any individual part, and fighting to the last without surrendering your own is absurd if not doing so will mean everyone's doom. Obviously, I don't want humanity to be destroyed, but if it must be and there's no alternative, then so be it.
Modifié par laecraft, 15 septembre 2011 - 05:56 .
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