Just the DJs? what a waste of some good strippersTheMarshal wrote...
PsychoHitsPeach wrote...
Ugh, not OmegaIt was my favorite location in ME2. Why couldn't they just take the boring Citadel?
So long as the DJs from Afterlife made it out, I think I'll be okay.
It renders one of my fics AU, but I'll just have to deal with it!
Kaiser Shepard wrote...
As far as novels based on videogames go, the Mass Effect ones are about as good as it gets. I'd start with Revelation and Ascension if I were you, though; even though the first novel, Revelation, isn't as good as the other two, it still introduces a fairly important character. Same goes for Ascension, except that it introduces multiple ones and is almost directly continued by Retribition.
It's obvious that they're dumb: they freakin' created a trap that couldn't spring from where they are at.Xilizhra wrote...
Quite frankly, the Reapers seem sort of dumb as a whole; why, among other things, didn't they place tracking devices on mass relays so that they could find them again if astrological phenomena like this happened? What if the Alpha Relay had been blown away and then exited right in front of another star?
I wouldn't call the possibility of Sovereign winning or either the rachni or krogan overrunning the galaxy better for everyone.I think it's because the "better for everyone" nature of Paragon choices generally have their morality be fairly self-evident. Renegade choices on the surface are darker and require more verbal justification.
Ophiskc wrote...
Just the DJs? what a waste of some good strippers
I already explained why the former two are unlikely to happen. Additionally, the Council and the DA's crew surviving does do a lot of good, and for the krogan, I'm only keeping a potential resource.I wouldn't call the possibility of Sovereign winning or either the rachni or krogan overrunning the galaxy better for everyone.
Most definitely, I personally enjoyed that one the most.TheMarshal wrote...
So it sounds like I should pick up Ascension first, then?
The former is too big a risk to take, while I'll give you a "fair enough" on the latter.Xilizhra wrote...
Additionally, the Council and the DA's crew surviving does do a lot of good, and for the krogan, I'm only keeping a potential resource.
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ladyvader wrote...
Humanity is part of the whole. All are important in their own way. Trying to be a bully is not in humanity's best interest. If it wasn't for the Council and the asari, the turians would have done some serious damage to humanity. But they got involved and stopped the war before it truly began.laecraft wrote...
ladyvader wrote...
Greater good for whom? The galaxy as a whole or just humanity? Because if it's the latter than no, it's not for the greater good. It's to stroke his over inflated ego.Kaiser Shepard wrote...
Who's to say TIM isn't destroying/taking over Omega for "the greatest possible good", as you put it in the other thread?Xilizhra wrote...
Well, TIM's the villain, and the only way I would do it is if not doing it meant that some other place was destroyed.
Do you believe that the rest of the galaxy is more important than humanity?
No one piece is more important than the other pieces. That is something Cerberus and TIM fail to understand.
Well, now we know they're out of character.The Reapers are smart enough not to create any avatars to make themselves vulnerable.
Yes.So the only way you can get a working weapon against the Reapers would be to destroy the Sol system, sacrificing the Earth with all its population. Would you do this?
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Xilizhra wrote...
Yes.So the only way you can get a working weapon against the Reapers would be to destroy the Sol system, sacrificing the Earth with all its population. Would you do this?
Well, the Reapers will kill everything otherwise. It's no different than destroying the Alpha Relay.laecraft wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
Yes.So the only way you can get a working weapon against the Reapers would be to destroy the Sol system, sacrificing the Earth with all its population. Would you do this?
Why?
Modifié par Xilizhra, 14 septembre 2011 - 01:17 .
It is. Why should our species alone sacrifice to defeat the Reapers? Why can't we share that burden with the other races?Xilizhra wrote...
Well, the Reapers will kill everything otherwise. It's no different than destroying the Alpha Relay.laecraft wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
Yes.So the only way you can get a working weapon against the Reapers would be to destroy the Sol system, sacrificing the Earth with all its population. Would you do this?
Why?
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Xilizhra wrote...
Well, the Reapers will kill everything otherwise. It's no different than destroying the Alpha Relay.laecraft wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
Yes.So the only way you can get a working weapon against the Reapers would be to destroy the Sol system, sacrificing the Earth with all its population. Would you do this?
Why?
Modifié par laecraft, 14 septembre 2011 - 01:25 .
Dave of Canada wrote...
BlueMagitek wrote...
Omega's gone? I'm sorry for the innocent people on it, but that place was pretty awful. >_>
In other words, you're not sorry for anybody.
Because your premise made it impossible. "The only way." In any case, it sounds like we already tried everything else already.No, I mean it in the context. Why would you do what the Council suggested, and wouldn't try to find another way first?
Yes, my paragon canon femShep has already sacrificed humans to save the Council and the DA.laecraft wrote...
So the only way you can get a working weapon against the Reapers would be to destroy the Sol system, sacrificing the Earth with all its population. Would you do this?
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Xilizhra wrote...
Because your premise made it impossible. "The only way." In any case, it sounds like we already tried everything else already.No, I mean it in the context. Why would you do what the Council suggested, and wouldn't try to find another way first?
Well, if possible, I'd do that.What about organizing a salarian team to develop a way to block the waves of dark energy, and pouring all your money into that project, so that the Earth doesn't have to be destroyed?
Would I really need to blackmail the Council to organize a civilian evacuation?What about blackmailing the Council into sending their forces to the Earth anyway, and evacuate the population while they're being slaughtered?
im stilll up for putting the relays inside stars and just wathing the funladyvader wrote...
Yes, my paragon canon femShep has already sacrificed humans to save the Council and the DA.laecraft wrote...
So the only way you can get a working weapon against the Reapers would be to destroy the Sol system, sacrificing the Earth with all its population. Would you do this?
That is almost the same as what Arrival forces Shepard to do. She didn't want to kill 305k batarians, but she didn't have a choice. Kill thousands to save trillions. But if there was another way, she would have tried it, but time was running out. So there was really no choice in the matter.
laecraft wrote...
Suppose this situation. The Reapers are winning. No weapon is strong enough to break through their shields. The galaxy is being devastated. Huge losses everywhere across all the worlds. All fleets united are unable to bring a single Reaper down. The Reapers are smart enough not to create any avatars to make themselves vulnerable. Seeker swarms paralyzed entire worlds. Whatever resistence remains is scarce and is located in space, constantly on the run from the Reapers. Half the organics are indoctrinated. Shepard's out there in the galaxy, doing stars know what, hunted down by Cerberus every step of the way, his life and his quest in constant jeopardy. The situation's desperate. Defeat seems inevitable.
Then the Council's best scientist approaches you and tells you that they've developed a super-weapon that could break through the Reaper shields. But that weapon doesn't work, because the waves of dark energy coming from the Sol's Sun interfere with it everywhere in the galaxy. In order to make that weapon work, you need to blow up the Sun. Humanity can't be evacuated because the Reapers are protecting the Earth, and nobody's strong enough to face them in a fight, united or not.
So the only way you can get a working weapon against the Reapers would be to destroy the Sol system, sacrificing the Earth with all its population. Would you do this?
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ladyvader wrote...
Yes, my paragon canon femShep has already sacrificed humans to save the Council and the DA.laecraft wrote...
So the only way you can get a working weapon against the Reapers would be to destroy the Sol system, sacrificing the Earth with all its population. Would you do this?
That is almost the same as what Arrival forces Shepard to do. She didn't want to kill 305k batarians, but she didn't have a choice. Kill thousands to save trillions. But if there was another way, she would have tried it, but time was running out. So there was really no choice in the matter.
There's more of everyone else than there is humanity. So, the rest of the galaxy.laecraft wrote...
ladyvader wrote...
Yes, my paragon canon femShep has already sacrificed humans to save the Council and the DA.laecraft wrote...
So the only way you can get a working weapon against the Reapers would be to destroy the Sol system, sacrificing the Earth with all its population. Would you do this?
That is almost the same as what Arrival forces Shepard to do. She didn't want to kill 305k batarians, but she didn't have a choice. Kill thousands to save trillions. But if there was another way, she would have tried it, but time was running out. So there was really no choice in the matter.
I'll simplify it. If you could save either humanity or the rest of the galaxy, what would you choose?
This isn't the Arrival non-choice, where you lose that colony either way. You can save humanity, or you can save everyone else. But not both.
thats eay as hell you save the galaxy, even if this was real life id sacrifice myself to save the worldlaecraft wrote...
ladyvader wrote...
Yes, my paragon canon femShep has already sacrificed humans to save the Council and the DA.laecraft wrote...
So the only way you can get a working weapon against the Reapers would be to destroy the Sol system, sacrificing the Earth with all its population. Would you do this?
That is almost the same as what Arrival forces Shepard to do. She didn't want to kill 305k batarians, but she didn't have a choice. Kill thousands to save trillions. But if there was another way, she would have tried it, but time was running out. So there was really no choice in the matter.
I'll simplify it. If you could save either humanity or the rest of the galaxy, what would you choose?
This isn't the Arrival non-choice, where you lose that colony either way. You can save humanity, or you can save everyone else. But not both.
laecraft wrote...
ladyvader wrote...
Yes, my paragon canon femShep has already sacrificed humans to save the Council and the DA.laecraft wrote...
So the only way you can get a working weapon against the Reapers would be to destroy the Sol system, sacrificing the Earth with all its population. Would you do this?
That is almost the same as what Arrival forces Shepard to do. She didn't want to kill 305k batarians, but she didn't have a choice. Kill thousands to save trillions. But if there was another way, she would have tried it, but time was running out. So there was really no choice in the matter.
I'll simplify it. If you could save either humanity or the rest of the galaxy, what would you choose?
This isn't the Arrival non-choice, where you lose that colony either way. You can save humanity, or you can save everyone else. But not both.
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