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Dalish Elves based on RL travellers?


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The Xand

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@Aries: Aye, Orkney and Shetland were so heavily influenced by the Vikings that they still consider themselves viking and apart from the mainland Scots to this day. The Shetland isles still burn a longboat every year in a festival called Up Helly Ya in fact.

The Dalish seem very obviously inspired by modern day "travellers" who are nomadic and utterly detested and untrusted by settled and civilised folk, and they have their own primitive form of language called "shelta" apparently though it sounds unintelligible to anyone native to Britain and Ireland, regardless of if they speak Scots or Irish Gaelic.

Im regards to Scandinavians and Englishmen in Byzantium, there were enough to make a significant impact upon the local culture, leaving not only an ethnic group but their own mark in runes and whatnot.

The Qunari seem to me to be Bioware's take on the Ottoman empire, since they are the natural enemies of the Byzantine Empire inspired Tevinters who make seemingly endless incursions into their lands, their mastery of gunpowder and their invasive and alien religion that embraces all those that would accept it and mercilessly punishes those that do not.

I disagree about the English tribes not being Danish and Germanic though since they originated from that region bringing with them the language, culture and religion of that region.

Modifié par The Xand, 18 septembre 2011 - 06:27 .


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I've done a little research and it seems that Danish and Swedish etc. are in fact, llnguistically, of North Germanic Origin. http://en.wikipedia....manic_languages

This is then divided into two main groups, West Scandinavian and East Scandinavian. There's also West Germanic and East Germanic (the now extinct Gothic languages).

I also tend to agree that the English tribes are part Germanic, because of the German tribe, the saxons, and possible also the German tribe, the Angles. And since the Danish (the Norsemen) came from Normandy to England in about the year 1000, with the batte of Hastings as a focal point, I agree that the English at least in part have some connections to the Danish.

As for the Qunari being Bioware's take on the Ottoman empire, I agree, at least in part. However, the Qun, seem to be inspired by Eastern philosphies, most notablly the Konfutse-philosophy of the old Chinese empires. The Dalish do seem to have been inspired mostly by the Romani people, the travellers.

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It's Culture and Linguistics Time :)
At the time of the Norman Conquest the Normans were essentially French, they were native speakers of the Norman French dialect : SPFrench: querre/Norman French: werre,
jardin/garden, guardian/warden :devil:
If you are trying to find the Norse influences, I would suggest you to check Danelagh, Cnut the Great and the North-Eastern England. It shows in the North-Eastern toponyms:
-by from Old Norse byr
-fell from Old Norse fjall
-thorp(e) from Old Norse thorp etc.
P.S Somebody got to check the en-wiki’s Norman French article; it needs an English native speaker attention.

Modifié par Eleinehmm, 18 septembre 2011 - 09:42 .


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Addai

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@ aries1001- You may have taken umbrage at the term because it sounds like "German." In early history, there is no such thing as "German" or "Germany." It makes no sense to call the Angles and Saxons "German tribes." They're Germanic, but so are the Jutes and the Danes. That's just the term used to apply to all those tribes of central and northern Europe that share a similar culture and language at this stage.

BTW I am a fan of the Vikings and Viking history, I would never try to dis them. :)

@ Eleinehmm: The Normans were culturally and linguistically French, but it's still fair to call them Norse. Genes tell, and genetically they were still of Norse origin.

And we are far off topic, though I love this sort of discussion...

Modifié par Addai67, 18 septembre 2011 - 06:52 .