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[Someone With Mass]

Jorina Leto wrote...

I dislike the gameplay mechanic. And I dislike the way it's contradicts the story.
The rules of an RPG are the tools to develop a consistent plot.
Which means, when the rules contradict the story it weakens the story. Thus the game is weakened.

Except for the little fact that it's not contradicting the story in any way.

The Mass Effect universe simply added a eject function to their guns so they could shoot some more after their weapons overheated. We as the players are just experiencing an altered version of it for the sake of gameplay.

[Thompson family]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Just saw a new article from CVG asking why Mass Effect has taken over the world. Check out the article here.

Do you think Mass Effect has taken over the world?

So how many towels did it take to get all that fawning slobber off? It must have been pretty awful.

Modifié par Thompson family, 13 septembre 2011 - 10:47 .

[Sailears]

Hathur wrote...

As much as I love the Mass Effect series...... but "changed the world"?

Uhmmmm.... 7 billion people on earth.

let's pretend anywhere between 3-6 million people bought ME2. That's a fraction of a percentage of the world's population.

You could erase 3-6 million people from the face of the earth and (while horribly tragic) it would make little to no actual impact on the day to day lives of 99.9% of the world.

So no.. the game hasn't changed the world in any shape or form. What it has done is provide a few million people with wonderful entertainment.

But let's not get carried away with insane hyperbole like this statement made in the article.

Exactly what I was thinking.

When all its elements work together, the next Mass Effect feels like a
true action game - another way the development team will further
assimilate fans. It's a smart, commercial move: they've looped in Xbox's
rabid shooter community, bred on Call of Duty and Gears of War, and
widened the appeal further.

Not sure what to say to that.
Certainly good for popularity and money, but paraphrasing what Shepard said to the Illusive Man - will it sacrifice the "soul" of the game to acheive it?

[Bcuz]

 
Although its taken over my computer.

Modifié par Bcuz, 13 septembre 2011 - 11:00 .

[Morty Smith]

It´s the only gaming series of which I own multiple copies per installment. ME sure has taken over my shelf!

[Isaidlunch]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

[Jorina Leto]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Except for the little fact that it's not contradicting the story in any way.

The lack of the weapon cooldown.
And why the hell are there thermal clips on Aeia?

Someone With Mass wrote...
The Mass Effect universe simply added a eject function to their guns so they could shoot some more after their weapons overheated.

How does this explain the lack of the weapon cooldown?

Someone With Mass wrote...
We as the players are just experiencing an altered version of it for the sake of gameplay.

You just contradicted yourself.
Thank you for proving me right.

[el master pr]

I say it has changed the world of those who have played it, but the world? I don't think so. I know people who've played it and not liked it because it was too slow for them. As a former FPS-only gamer, aside from the obvious Zelda and Star Wars games, I can understand where they're coming from. Even if they don't like it they do like the story a lot and would like to see it in a movie, as the gameplay is not as enticing as to make them play (they felt the first two hours of ME1, which they spent on the Citadel, were torture). I, for one, assure you that it has changed my world, but for it to change other than that it must be adapted to other media successfully.

[Gatt9]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Just saw a new article from CVG asking why Mass Effect has taken over the world. Check out the article here.

Do you think Mass Effect has taken over the world?

I think the article is based on faulty information TBH.

The article claims that the game sold 2 million copies in 3 days,  but if we go grab the NPD numbers...

http://vgsales.wikia...PD_January_2010

January 2010 - 572,000
February 2010 - 246,500
March 2010 - < 100,000 units. (Off the top 20 lists)

So we have two possibilities,  either ME2 sold 1.5 million units on the PC in 3 days (Which kills the whole "PC market is too small line),  or ME2 didn't sell 2 million units,  it shipped 2 million units.

It's pretty safe to say it didn't sell 2 million.  It's also pretty safe to say it didn't sell that 6.6 million number people toss around,  as to believe that we need the PC to have sold around 5.7 million units to the 360's less than 1 million.

(No,  the rest of the world didn't outbuy the US.  The numbers are very stable on U.S. developed titles,  the worldwide totals are ~50-75% of the US totals.)

[Someone With Mass]

Jorina Leto wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Except for the little fact that it's not contradicting the story in any way.

The lack of the weapon cooldown.
And why the hell are there thermal clips on Aeia?

Someone With Mass wrote...
The Mass Effect universe simply added a eject function to their guns so they could shoot some more after their weapons overheated.

How does this explain the lack of the weapon cooldown?

Someone With Mass wrote...
We as the players are just experiencing an altered version of it for the sake of gameplay.

You just contradicted yourself.
Thank you for proving me right.

Whatever.

It's eons ahead of the borefest that was ME1's weapon system.

[Anacronian Stryx]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Just saw a new article from CVG asking why Mass Effect has taken over the world. Check out the article here.

Do you think Mass Effect has taken over the world?

No i don't think so, But what i do think is that there is a special kind of anticipation for Mass effect 3, I'm not even sure if you guys have realised it yet but you got millions of people who played ME 1 and 2 with their own character - who are just bustling to get the new game, To see how it ends.. it has been done before but never on this level.

And honestly if you had any sense you would stop trying to "sell" ME 3 to all the people who haven't played ME 1+2 and instead focus on those who have because like or not they are your audience..and truly if you do well by them then word of mouth will sell you many more copies of both me 1+2+3 than any reasurrences of "ME 3 being a good jumping on point".

Wait am i rambling again... woman i told you to stop me!!

[el master pr]

Jorina Leto wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Except for the little fact that it's not contradicting the story in any way.

The lack of the weapon cooldown.
And why the hell are there thermal clips on Aeia?

Someone With Mass wrote...
The Mass Effect universe simply added a eject function to their guns so they could shoot some more after their weapons overheated.

How does this explain the lack of the weapon cooldown?

Someone With Mass wrote...
We as the players are just experiencing an altered version of it for the sake of gameplay.

You just contradicted yourself.
Thank you for proving me right.

You do know that lore has to be ignored sometimes for the sake of gameplay, or do you have an explanation for Altair's way of navigating the environment in AC2 being exactly the same as Ezio's? Or DA's floating swords? The reason for thermal clips in Aeia is that it's technically difficult and costly to change the weapon system for one mission only.

[Apathy1989]

Taken over the world? Please.

Changed the gaming industry and been the top game on my radar for past year? Yes.

Still many casual gamers have not heard of it, none of my non-gamer friends will know of it. Mass Effect will get far more coverage from a film than it ever will from games.

[Walker White]

Gatt9 wrote...

I think the article is based on faulty information TBH.

We do know that the 2 million number was sell-in.  That was made clear in a conference call.

However, EA noted very recently that the combined franchise was over 7 million.  Whether that is sell-in or sell-throught, that it still very, very solid.

Modifié par Walker White, 13 septembre 2011 - 11:13 .

[Someone With Mass]

el master pr wrote...
You do know that lore has to be ignored sometimes for the sake of gameplay, or do you have an explanation for Altair's way of navigating the environment in AC2 being exactly the same as Ezio's? Or DA's floating swords? The reason for thermal clips in Aeia is that it's technically difficult and costly to change the weapon system for one mission only.

+1

I wish more people could understand this.

Edit: Just to add to that. Guess why we don't have to discharge the Normandy's core or can travel instantly from one place to another while in-story perspective, it takes hours. That's right. For the sake of fluid gameplay.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 13 septembre 2011 - 11:13 .

[Il Divo]

Xeranx wrote...

When television shows begin talking about Mass Effect we can ask the question if it took over the world. So far the only game that gets mentioned in movies and on t.v. is WoW.

 As per usual, I see Xeranx has the right idea.

[Sowtaaw]

No. Halo4 and the annual CoD will dominate the world next year.

[Walker White]

Oh my, It just occurred to me that "7 million franchise" number includes Mass Effect Galaxy. Considering the sell rates on a top-selling $2 iPhone game, I wonder how much that distorts numbers.

[Reciever80]

Sowtaaw wrote...

No. Halo4 and the annual CoD will dominate the world next year.

True. CoD just blows (cod4 was actually great for its time, completely changed the industry. Everything after that just blew. Halo for me ended at the third game. Read all the books, love the lore, ever since they switched it to 343 industries I knew that's when it was the end for me.

Most people haven't heard of mass effect, or if they have, they don't know much about it. Which is a complete shame, yet it's still the truth >.>. It's completely rocked my world, I'll be honest.

I hope to god there's some badass supervillian (saren) in this game, in addition to the reapers. I thought ME1 was great.

[Omega4RelayResident]

Mass Effect did something that Halo did not do... add the human element.

Honestly I felt like Chuck Norris in space armor in Halo.

Mass Effect surpassed Halo as far as storytelling... what BioWare has to do is end the series on an Epic note. You dont owe it to yourselves or us to blow peoples expectations out of the water and make it an amazing trillogy.

You owe it to what you have written so far. The story drew a figurative breath and took on a life of its own.

[Texhnolyze101]

ME didn't take over anything don't get cocky.

[Doofe2012]

Like one of the first posters said, it's taken over my world for sure. These days, I don't think I go an hour without thinking about Mass Effect in some way, no matter how minor. It needs to take over the world, though. Everyone knows about required reading lists for schools, colleges, and some jobs, right? If there were a required playing list for government and military personnel, the Mass Effect series should be right at the top.

Modifié par Doofe2012, 14 septembre 2011 - 01:05 .

[RyuGuitarFreak]

Hummmmm no. But it has taken mine.

Nathander Von Eric wrote...

Mass Effect 3 is my most anticipated game.

Mass Effect 1 was a very, very good game.

Mass Effect 2 was a great game. Seriously. Loved it.

Mass Effect 3 will be epic.

Skyrim? Meh. Diablo III? Pffffsstt.

I want a great story. I want great action. I want war damn it! These freaking Reapers have been hounding me for far too long!

Yeah.

I'll be probably getting BF3, have lots of fun with it. Then ME3 and **** everything else in my life.

[Jorina Leto]

el master pr wrote...


You do know that lore has to be ignored sometimes for the sake of gameplay,

If you just want to play a contemporary shooter go play Call of Duty. ME is supposed to be an RPG and in RPGs story and mechanics are connected.

el master pr wrote...
or do you have an explanation for Altair's way of navigating the environment in AC2 being exactly the same as Ezio's?

I cannot comment about games I have not played.

el master pr wrote...
Or DA's floating swords?

What are you talking about?

el master pr wrote...
The reason for thermal clips in Aeia is that it's technically difficult and costly to change the weapon system for one mission only.

Sure it's costly and difficult to use something, that already exist (Remember: the develovment of ME2 used the cooling guns before they decided to use contemporary gameplay). And it's of course difficult when you don't place something into the level.
And sure it's impossible to set the enemies of the level not to drop thermal clips.

[Jorina Leto]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Whatever.

It's eons ahead of the borefest that was ME1's weapon system.

Keeping to say that doesn't make it true.