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[mesmerizedish]

Hi!

Fairly basic (hopefully) question: is there anywhere that how the .mao semantics work is clearly and thoroughly documented? I mean, for the most part, it's pretty straightforward: "AlphaArmourSkinTint" works for most everything But do they have to be in a particular order? And then, there's this weird "Punchthrough" semantic I've been noticing: what on earth does it do? o.O

SECOND VERSE (not quite like the first).

Tints on multi-object meshes (specifically in DAII, though Origins information might help me): how do I do it? I've tried every combination of object names I can think of, and only one part ever takes a tint. It's driving me mad.

[tmp7704]

As far as i can tell the "AlphaArmourSkinTint" etc are simply names of individual shaders the game comes with. Each of these shaders have bit different set of functions and as such take different arguments. I don't think the arguments have to come in fixed order in the .mao file.

Punchthrough shader is --taking a wild guess from where i saw it used-- simplified version of the alpha-mapped shader, one which uses simple alpha channel test to either draw the texel or not, rather than blending/face sorting of the regular alpha shader.

The whole list of shaders is constructed on the runtime based on info from one of config files the game comes with. I can't check at the moment the file name, but i think it's in one of the PMs you got.

Modifié par tmp7704, 14 septembre 2011 - 03:42 .

[DarthParametric]

The MAO semantics are defined in XML files found in materials.erf (in DA1 at least).

My understanding of the Punch semantic is that it is intended for props that require holes using alphas, as opposed to other sorts of transparency.

Tinting of multi-part meshes can be extremely problematic. It generally requires a strict mesh naming convention to work, and for certain types of model it seemingly won't work regardless. As an example, for chest/torso armour you want to use the epithets _ArmorM1, _ArmorM2, _ArmorM3, etc. for the individual mesh names. Use the vanilla models as a guide.

[mesmerizedish]

Thanks for the replies

I don't know if I'm just doing something wrong or what, but the .mat files for DAII are almost entirely incomprehensible. There are no line breaks, and there are many symbols instead of words.

As for the naming: does the .msh have to follow the naming convention, or is it only the MMH_NAME field in the .mmh's section for a given chunk?

There aren't any multi-object meshes in the game that use tints. I noticed it first on Merrill's robes: her gloves are a separate part (I have no idea why :/), so they don't tint with the rest of her robe. The objects are armorm1 and glovesm1.

There are other multi-part meshes in the game: templar armor, mage and warrior champion armor... but none of them regularly have any tint applied to them.

The only other thing I can think of is full-face helmets that include an object for the eyes: I haven't done any testing with that though. Can the helmet AND the eyes both tint? I don't know :/

[DarthParametric]

To clarify, I was referring to a single model comprising multiple individual meshes. Armour is typically three separate models - chest/torso, gloves, boots - at least in DA1 anyway. I can't really speak for DA2. There should be no issues getting those to tint. Each individual model just needs a tint mask that is properly referenced in its MAO and the appropriate material set in its UTI.

For actual multi-mesh models, the naming convention I referred to is for the MMH name field. If you name each mesh in Max/GMax appropriately, Eshme's script will export it properly. I don't know what happens using other export processes. You could always edit the files manually afterwards with a GFF editor.

I'm not sure that the eyes in helmets tint. A model receiving multiple different tints is problematic in my experience (again, in DA1). The only one that reliably works is armour getting an armour tint and a skin tint.

[mesmerizedish]

And, to clarify... I'm talking about a single mesh comprising multiple objects, but I don't need to apply different tints to them.

For example: one of my mod's adds Merrill's scarf to her romance-specific armor as a new object (I've experimented with various names for the new object: glovesm1, clothesm1, armorm2, etc.), but only armorm1 seems to tint. There seems to be some hierarchy: if I swap them, and name the scarf "armorm1," then the scarf tints, but the rest of the armor doesn't.

It's VEXING.

I need to buddy up with some BioWare technical artists. Anyone got some names/addresses/socialsecuritynumbers?

[DarthParametric]

That's a single model comprised of multiple meshes. We are both talking about the same thing, but there seems to be confusion as to nomenclature.

Concerning the mesh names, name your armour mesh xx_ArmorM1 and additional meshes xx_ArmorM2, xx_ArmorM3, etc. If that doesn't work you may need to just bite the bullet and make them a single mesh, adjusting the UV map and texture accordingly.

[Eshme]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

I need to buddy up with some BioWare technical artists. Anyone got some names/addresses/socialsecuritynumbers?

No chance for a year in the past and future :innocent:

If you name each mesh in Max/GMax appropriately, Eshme's script will export it properly.

I dont think so  There are "issues"

[DarthParametric]

I was speaking about DA1 models. I know it doesn't work for DA2.

[Eshme]

I know, thats where issues are.

[mesmerizedish]

Oh noes, issues!

I'm using Lightwave and tmp's plugin for my DAII work. I've never modded Origins. I have no idea how I would edit its UV map. The only time I've even touched UV mapping was when I UV mapped a new model from scratch for Oblivion (in Blender) and I never got that working :/

Does anyone know if multi-object meshes tinted properly in Origins? I don't even know if Origins had many multi-chunk models, but I'll bet the templar armor is, right? What are its parts named? (I can answer these questions myself; I'm just musing aloud )

It's Friday, so I have some time to experiment more this afternoon.

[DarthParametric]

Ah, I recall now hearing about some of the model changes in DA2. Sounds like it is very different from Origins. As I said before, in DA1 vanilla armour is generally 3 separate single mesh models (chest, boots, gloves) - not a single model with 3 meshes.

If DA2 is what you are interested in, you might have more luck in the DA2 modding forum.

[mesmerizedish]

DarthParametric wrote...

Ah, I recall now hearing about some of the model changes in DA2. Sounds like it is very different from Origins. As I said before, in DA1 vanilla armour is generally 3 separate single mesh models (chest, boots, gloves) - not a single model with 3 meshes.

If DA2 is what you are interested in, you might have more luck in the DA2 modding forum.

DAII's vanilla armor is separate single-mesh models as well... the Champion armors have multiple parts, but I'm not interested in tinting them. Like I said, I'm mainly interested in tinting the model I put together myself: one .mmh, one .msh, two .maos.

I won't have more luck in the DAII modding forum. I'm already among the most knowledgable patrons there

*runs back to her experiments*

[tmp7704]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

I have no idea how I would edit its UV map.

Fortunately, Lightwave makes that pretty simple: switch a viewport of choice to UV map view, and select the uv map you wish to edit (through one of small buttons in right lower corner of the main program window, next to the button which allows to select weight maps etc. For imported models there will be typically just one uv map to select.

Once the map is selected and visible you can drag its "vertices" around, scale etc the same way you edit geometry of the mesh.

(technically these are coordinates associated with the vertices you're "dragging" etc, but who cares)

Modifié par tmp7704, 16 septembre 2011 - 05:25 .

[mesmerizedish]

@tmp: thanks! I'm still mucking around, but if I do decide to just give up, that will be very helpful.

I thought I should mention (in case anyone else happens to have been curious) that tmp's guess regarding the "Punchthrough" semantic appears to be correct, i.e. Alpha sans blending. Maybe I'll post some pics of the same model using each.

[mesmerizedish]

Okay, so...

Is there anything in the .msh that could be contributing to which MMH_NAME tints and which doesn't?

armorm1 tints. clothesm1 tints. They don't both tint at the same time (whichever I name armorm1 tints, but the one I name clothesm1 doesn't).

Now, I tried naming one glovesm1 and one bootsm1. Neither tinted in this case. But actual boots named bootsm1 tint, and actual gloves named glovesm1 tint. So something's odd somewhere.

Maybe I didn't do everything properly when exporting? I really have no idea how all this works. I'm again curious if it's documented anywhere (even for Origins modeling).

[DarthParametric]

If this is a single armour model, is it actually necessary for the chest/boots/gloves to be separate meshes? Just merge them into a single mesh and reposition the UVs so they don't overlap. Use 1024x1024 or 2048x2048 for your new custom texture, depending on what res the base textures were.

[mesmerizedish]

I'm just trying to understand the system right now

I can think of a reason not to do that, though: compatibility. My Scarf for Merrill mod is, currently, entirely compatible with any mod that alters the base texture of her romance armor (though the colors may clash, since my texture is designed with the vanilla in mind). If I were to combine the objects into one and re-do the UV, that compatibility would be lost.




[EDIT] Oh, and what is LerpedTint?

Modifié par ishmaeltheforsaken, 16 septembre 2011 - 08:50 .

[ChewyGumball]

The system has baffled us for quite some time. Whatever it is, it is not simple or straightforward.

[mesmerizedish]

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dp3 r3.z, r4.xyzx, r4.xyzx

rsq r3.z, r3.z

mul r4.xyz, r3.zzzz, r4.xyzx

dp3_sat r3.z, r0.xyzx, r4.xyzx

log r3.z, r3.z

mul r3.z, r3.z, cb0[34].y

exp r3.z, r3.z

mul r4.xyz, r3.zzzz, cb2[1].xyzx

mad r4.xyz, r1.xxxx, cb2[3].xyzx, r4.xyzx

add r5.xyz, v6.xyzx, -cb2[5].xyzx

dp3 r1.x, r5.xyzx, r5.xyzx

rsq r1.x, r1.x

mad r5.xyz, -r5.xyzx, r1.xxxx, r1.yzwy

dp3 r1.x, r5.xyzx, r5.xyzx

rsq r1.x, r1.x

mul r5.xyz, r1.xxxx, r5.xyzx

dp3_sat r1.x, r0.xyzx, r5.xyzx

log r1.x, r1.x

mul r1.x, r1.x, cb0[34].y

exp r1.x, r1.x

mad r4.xyz, r1.xxxx, cb2[6].xyzx, r4.xyzx

mad r4.xyz, r1.xxxx, cb2[8].xyzx, r4.xyzx

dp3 r1.x, cb0[70].xyzx, l(0.084629, 0.166436, 0.031030, 0.000000)

mul r3.z, r0.w, r0.w

ge r5.xy, l(0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000), cb0[29].wzww

if_nz r5.x

  mov r5.xzw, l(0,0,0,0)

else 

  dp3 r3.w, -r1.yzwy, r0.xyzx

  add r3.w, r3.w, r3.w

  mad r6.xyz, r0.xyzx, -r3.wwww, -r1.yzwy

  add r3.w, -cb0[52].w, l(1.000000)

  mul r3.w, r3.w, l(6.000000)

  sample_l r6.xyzw, r6.xyzx, t3.xyzw, s10, r3.w

  log r6.xyz, r6.xyzx

  mul r6.xyz, r6.xyzx, l(2.200000, 2.200000, 2.200000, 0.000000)

  exp r5.xzw, r6.xxyz

endif 

mul r5.xzw, r5.xxzw, cb0[52].xxyz

mul r5.xzw, r2.wwww, r5.xxzw

mul r5.xzw, r3.zzzz, r5.xxzw

div r2.w, l(1.000000, 1.000000, 1.000000, 1.000000), cb0[31].x

mul_sat r2.w, r2.w, v5.w

mad r3.z, r2.w, l(-2.000000), l(3.000000)

mul r2.w, r2.w, r2.w

mul r2.w, r2.w, r3.z

mul r4.xyz, r4.xyzx, cb0[31].yyyy

mul r4.xyz, r0.wwww, r4.xyzx

mul r3.z, r1.x, r1.x

mul r1.x, r1.x, r3.z

min r1.x, r1.x, l(1.000000)

mul r4.xyz, r1.xxxx, r4.xyzx

movc r4.xyz, r5.yyyy, l(0,0,0,0), r4.xyzx

sample r6.xyzw, v1.xyxx, t5.xyzw, s1

mul r7.xyzw, r6.xyzw, cb0[36].xyzw

mul r8.xyz, r7.yyyy, cb0[40].xyzx

mad r8.xyz, cb0[38].xyzx, r7.xxxx, r8.xyzx

mad r8.xyz, cb0[42].xyzx, r7.zzzz, r8.xyzx

mad r8.xyz, cb0[44].xyzx, r7.wwww, r8.xyzx

dp4 r1.x, l(1.000000, 1.000000, 1.000000, 1.000000), r7.xyzw

add r7.xyz, -r2.xyzx, r8.xyzx

mad r2.xyz, r1.xxxx, r7.xyzx, r2.xyzx

if_nz r3.y

  mul r3.yzw, r2.xxyz, r4.xxyz

  mul r3.yzw, r2.wwww, r3.yyzw

  log r3.yzw, r3.yyzw

  mul r3.yzw, r3.yyzw, l(0.000000, 0.454545, 0.454545, 0.454545)

  exp o0.xyz, r3.yzwy

  mov o0.w, l(1.000000)

  ret 

else 

  mul r7.x, r0.y, cb0[70].w

  mul r7.yz, r0.yyyy, cb0[71].xxyx

  mul r7.xyz, r7.xyzx, l(0.488603, 0.488603, 0.488603, 0.000000)

  mad r7.xyz, cb0[70].xyzx, l(0.282095, 0.282095, 0.282095, 0.000000), r7.xyzx

  mul r8.xy, r0.zzzz, cb0[71].zwzz

  mul r8.z, r0.z, cb0[72].x

  mad r7.xyz, r8.xyzx, l(0.488603, 0.488603, 0.488603, 0.000000), r7.xyzx

  mul r8.xyz, r0.xxxx, cb0[72].yzwy

  mad r7.xyz, r8.xyzx, l(0.488603, 0.488603, 0.488603, 0.000000), r7.xyzx

  mul r8.xyz, r0.yyyy, cb0[73].xyzx

  mul r8.xyz, r0.xxxx, r8.xyzx

  mad r7.xyz, r8.xyzx, l(1.092548, 1.092548, 1.092548, 0.000000), r7.xyzx

  mul r8.x, r0.y, cb0[73].w

  mul r8.yz, r0.yyyy, cb0[74].xxyx

  mul r8.xyz, r0.zzzz, r8.xyzx

  mad r7.xyz, r8.xyzx, l(1.092548, 1.092548, 1.092548, 0.000000), r7.xyzx

  mul r8.xy, cb0[74].zwzz, l(0.315392, 0.315392, 0.000000, 0.000000)

  mul r8.z, cb0[75].x, l(0.315392)

  mul r9.xy, r0.zyzz, r0.zyzz

  mad r1.x, r9.x, l(3.000000), l(-1.000000)

  mad r7.xyz, r8.xyzx, r1.xxxx, r7.xyzx

  mul r8.xyz, r0.zzzz, cb0[75].yzwy

  mul r8.xyz, r0.xxxx, r8.xyzx

  mad r7.xyz, r8.xyzx, l(1.092548, 1.092548, 1.092548, 0.000000), r7.xyzx

  mul r8.xyz, cb0[76].xyzx, l(0.546274, 0.546274, 0.546274, 0.000000)

  mad r1.x, r0.x, r0.x, -r9.y

  mad r7.xyz, r8.xyzx, r1.xxxx, r7.xyzx

  max r7.xyz, r7.xyzx, l(0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000)

  mul r1.x, cb0[77].y, cb0[77].z

  sincos r8.x, r9.x, cb0[77].x

  mul r4.w, r1.x, r9.x

  mul r1.x, r1.x, r8.x

  mul r8.xyzw, r4.wwww, l(0.701000, 0.587000, 0.114000, 0.299000)

  mad r5.y, cb0[77].z, l(0.299000), r8.x

  mad r5.y, r1.x, l(0.168000), r5.y

  mad r8.xyz, cb0[77].zzzz, l(0.587000, 0.114000, 0.299000, 0.000000), -r8.yzwy

  mad r7.w, r1.x, l(0.330000), r8.x

  mul r7.w, r7.y, r7.w

  mad r5.y, r5.y, r7.x, r7.w

  mad r8.xz, -r1.xxxx, l(0.497000, 0.000000, 0.328000, 0.000000), r8.yyzy

  mul r7.w, r7.x, r8.z

  mad r9.x, r8.x, r7.z, r5.y

  mul r10.xyzw, r4.wwww, l(0.413000, 0.300000, 0.588000, 0.886000)

  mad r8.xz, cb0[77].zzzz, l(0.587000, 0.000000, 0.114000, 0.000000), r10.xxwx

  mad r4.w, r1.x, l(0.035000), r8.x

  mad r4.w, r4.w, r7.y, r7.w

  mad r5.y, r1.x, l(0.292000), r8.y

  mad r9.y, r5.y, r7.z, r4.w

  mad r8.xy, cb0[77].zzzz, l(0.299000, 0.587000, 0.000000, 0.000000), -r10.yzyy

  mad r4.w, r1.x, l(1.250000), r8.x

  mad r5.y, -r1.x, l(1.050000), r8.y

  mul r5.y, r7.y, r5.y

  mad r4.w, r4.w, r7.x, r5.y

  mad r1.x, -r1.x, l(0.203000), r8.z

  mad r9.z, r1.x, r7.z, r4.w

  dp3 r1.x, cb0[13].xyzx, r0.xyzx

  add r1.x, -r1.x, l(1.000000)

  log r1.x, r1.x

  mul r1.x, r1.x, cb0[13].w

  exp r1.x, r1.x

  mad r7.xyz, cb0[12].xyzx, r1.xxxx, r9.xyzx

  movc r7.xyz, r3.xxxx, r7.xyzx, r9.xyzx

  sample r8.xyzw, v1.xyxx, t4.xyzw, s0

  log r8.xyz, r8.xyzx

  mul r8.xyz, r8.xyzx, l(2.200000, 2.200000, 2.200000, 0.000000)

  exp r8.xyz, r8.xyzx

  ge r9.xy, l(0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000), cb0[27].ywyy

  movc r8.xyz, r9.xxxx, l(0.500000,0.500000,0.500000,0), r8.xyzx

  mul r7.xyz, r0.wwww, r7.xyzx

  movc r7.xyz, r9.yyyy, l(1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,0), r7.xyzx

  div r9.xy, v7.xyxx, v7.wwww

  add r9.xy, r9.xyxx, l(1.000000, 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000)

  mul r9.x, r9.x, l(0.500000)

  mad r9.z, -r9.y, l(0.500000), l(1.000000)

  sample_l(0,0,0) r9.xyzw, r9.xzxx, t9.xyzw, s0, l(0.000000)

  add r7.xyz, r7.xyzx, r9.xyzx

  mul r6.xyzw, r6.xyzw, cb0[35].xyzw

  mul r9.xyz, r6.yyyy, cb0[39].xyzx

  mad r9.xyz, cb0[37].xyzx, r6.xxxx, r9.xyzx

  mad r9.xyz, cb0[41].xyzx, r6.zzzz, r9.xyzx

  mad r9.xyz, cb0[43].xyzx, r6.wwww, r9.xyzx

  dp4 r0.w, l(1.000000, 1.000000, 1.000000, 1.000000), r6.xyzw

  add r6.xyz, -r8.xyzx, r9.xyzx

  mad r6.xyz, r0.wwww, r6.xyzx, r8.xyzx

  mul r6.xyz, r6.xyzx, r7.xyzx

  ne r0.w, l(0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000), cb0[29].y

  min r7.xyz, r6.xyzx, l(0.790000, 0.790000, 0.790000, 0.000000)

  movc r6.xyz, r0.wwww, r7.xyzx, r6.xyzx

  mul r2.xyz, r2.xyzx, r4.xyzx

  mul r4.xyz, r2.wwww, r5.xzwx

  mad r2.xyz, r2.xyzx, r2.wwww, r4.xyzx

  add r3.yzw, r2.xxyz, r6.xxyz

endif 

lt r0.w, l(0.000000), cb0[30].z

if_nz r0.w

  mul r2.xyz, r2.wwww, r5.xzwx

  log r2.xyz, r2.xyzx

  mul r2.xyz, r2.xyzx, l(0.454545, 0.454545, 0.454545, 0.000000)

  exp o0.xyz, r2.xyzx

  mov o0.w, l(1.000000)

  ret 

endif 

add r2.xyz, v6.xyzx, -cb1[18].xyzx

dp3 r0.w, r2.xyzx, r2.xyzx

sqrt r0.w, r0.w

mov r2.x, v3.w

mov r2.y, l(0)

ge r2.xy, l(0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000), r2.xyxx

and r2.zw, r2.xxxy, l(0, 0, 0x3f800000, 0x3f800000)

movc r2.xy, r2.xyxx, l(0,0,0,0), l(1.000000,1.000000,0,0)

add r4.xyz, -v1.xywx, l(1.000000, 1.000000, 1.000000, 0.000000)

mul r2.zw, r2.zzzw, r4.xxxy

mad r2.xy, r2.xyxx, v1.xyxx, r2.zwzz

add r2.xy, r2.xyxx, r2.xyxx

sample r2.xyzw, r2.xyxx, t7.xyzw, s8

mul r1.x, cb0[49].x, l(1.200000)

mad r1.x, r1.x, r4.z, -r2.x

mul_sat r1.x, r1.x, l(5.000000)

mad r2.x, r1.x, l(-2.000000), l(3.000000)

mul r1.x, r1.x, r1.x

mul r1.x, r1.x, r2.x

add r0.w, r0.w, l(-8.000000)

mul_sat r0.w, r0.w, l(0.500000)

mad r2.x, r0.w, l(-2.000000), l(3.000000)

mul r0.w, r0.w, r0.w

mad r0.w, -r2.x, r0.w, l(1.000000)

mul r0.w, r0.w, r1.x

mad r2.xyz, r2.yyyy, cb0[50].xyzx, l(-1.000000, -1.000000, -1.000000, 0.000000)

mad r2.xyz, r0.wwww, r2.xyzx, l(1.000000, 1.000000, 1.000000, 0.000000)

mul r2.xyz, r2.xyzx, r3.yzwy

sample r3.xyzw, v1.xyxx, t8.xyzw, s11

log r3.xyz, r3.xyzx

mul r3.xyz, r3.xyzx, l(2.200000, 2.200000, 2.200000, 0.000000)

exp r3.xyz, r3.xyzx

dp3 r0.x, r0.xyzx, r1.yzwy

add r0.y, -cb0[60].z, l(1.000000)

div r0.x, r0.x, cb0[60].y

add_sat r0.x, |r0.x|, -cb0[60].z

add r0.x, -r0.x, r0.y

mul r0.y, r3.w, cb0[60].x

mul r0.x, |r0.x|, r0.y

mul r0.x, r0.x, cb0[59].w

mad r0.yzw, cb0[59].xxyz, r3.xxyz, -r2.xxyz

mad r0.xyz, r0.xxxx, r0.yzwy, r2.xyzx

add r1.xyzw, -cb0[48].wxyz, l(1.000000, 1.000000, 1.000000, 1.000000)

div_sat r0.xyz, r0.xyzx, r1.yzwy

mul r1.yzw, r0.xxyz, r1.xxxx

lt r0.w, l(0.000000), cb0[28].y

mad r0.xyz, -r1.xxxx, r0.xyzx, cb1[16].xyzx

mad r0.xyz, v1.zzzz, r0.xyzx, r1.yzwy

movc r0.xyz, r0.wwww, r0.xyzx, r1.yzwy

log r0.xyz, r0.xyzx

mul r0.xyz, r0.xyzx, l(0.454545, 0.454545, 0.454545, 0.000000)

exp o0.xyz, r0.xyzx

mov o0.w, cb0[34].x

ret 

// Approximately 351 instruction slots used

[mesmerizedish]

So, the BSN doesn't have code tags? Lame.

Anyway, the above is the full text of character_character_p0.psh.fxo.dx11.assembly, the shader that handles tints. Anyone with a modicum of experience with assembly languages can feel free to try and read it, but it is entirely useless to someone as ignorant as I.

[ChewyGumball]

Its almost impossible to go from assembly to shader code since it generally is not a 1 to 1 conversion in the other direction. The most use you could get out of it is probably what textures it takes as inputs.

[mesmerizedish]

I have a friend who's offered to take a look at it *shrug*

Anyway, that's not what's interesting right now.

What's interesting is that Origins' .mat files are in plain .xml. Now, DAII's aren't. My best guess is that they're compiled GFFs like everything else BioWare use, but Mephales's editor doesn't recognize them as a readable file.

Is there anything I can do? I'm hopeful that I can find at least something of use in the material definitions, but if they're compiled... *flails*

Also interesting (to me at least): there are separate material files for DX11. And the DX11 ones are way bigger.

[ChewyGumball]

I am pretty sure the origins .mat files are just specifications for the shaders. There isn't any shader code in them. They are the best way to find out what an mao that uses the material needs in terms of maps, and for alternate versions of a material, but other than that there isn't anything else I could find in them that was useful. You might be able to manipulate some input values, but I'm not sure how the game uses the .mat files if at all.

As for reading DA2 mat files. They might be encypte/compressed which would make it harder to read. The first few bytes is normally a good indication of what type of file it is, bioware seems to like plain text headers, so perhaps opening one in notepad++ will give you more clues.

[mesmerizedish]

First line of character.mat.dx11 says "bmat" and then some not-plain-text characters that won't paste into the reply box: things like FF and NUL.