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[Swimming Ferret]

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These can be new ones or even continuations from your realtionships in ME1 or 2. They could even be repercussions for 'cheating' on a ME1 LI and having a rage fit on your hands.

Bit of a beaten topic, but what the hell.

The main thing I would really like to see in Mass Effect 3 would be some other people remarking on my Shepard's relationships.

Take my Femshep's relationship with Garrus as an example.  So far, Kasumi is really the only one who spoke about the romance (and that holovid ad on the Citadel which was funny) and I found that really neat. She even differs about what she says depending on how far in the realtionship you are;

Garrus being romanced: "The word is that Garrus really likes you. I can
never tell with turians. I think you should go for it. A lot of
people want to see you two together."

Garrus consummated: "Someone saw Garrus heading to your quarters with a
bottle of champagne. I'm happy for you two. It's not often you find
something good in a galaxy like this."

Personally, I found that totally awesome that someone actually acknowldged the realtionship. Even if it was the local ninja but hey, Kasumi's a bro.

I would also like for Garrus to move up into my Femshep's cabin in ME3, maybe leaving some of his stuff around, like a half dismantled Sniper Rifle or even a pottle of his war paint XDDD It would make them seem like more in a serious relationship and not just a one-night thing. Heck, I would love it if you could ask him to move in with you and he would get all nervous and adorable about it like he was while being romanced.

Also, if that nosy reporter shows up, I would find it hilarious if she starts grilling you about your Love Interest; "So, how do you justify sleeping with an alien who's specie attacked humans, unprovoked, and occupying Shanxi?" or something as stupid as that XD My main Femshep hasn't decked her (Diplomatic humiliation is more her style) but she certainly would if the reporter started b!tching about her Garr-bear.


What about you guys? Have you anything in perticular you want to show in ME3? Maybe your LI from ME1 slapping you for being disloyal or a fight-to-the-death-for-Shep's-attention between rival LI's? Which LI's would you think would make the best VS? (Personally I think Kaiden vs Garrus and Ashley vs Jack as being the most explosive but that's just me XD ) Or would you prefer if both LI dumped your ass and moved on?

And knock off any romance bashing and keep trolling to a minimun. There's enough drama around here.

[Asenza]

I just hope that the relationship progresses. This is the final game of the series, the last that involves Shepard and the characters we know and love.

No rehashing the relationship. We're far past the "I like you, do you like me Y or N" part. There should be issues, but not petty ones. Especially with the alien LI's, there should be issues due to differences in species, opposition by others to the pairing, etc.

I also want to have a few conversations with Thane in which he doesn't bring up his illness. I'm not his nurse. He has a sense of humor, I'd like to see that.

But for all the alien romances, I'd like to see a little more than a headbump or a fade to black. Tali got more, but that's cause she's Tali. All the human LI's scenes were primarily sexual in nature, except Jack's really, which was more emotional, and while the alien LI's don't need to go that far, the alien LI scenes (again, save Tali's) are noticeably shorter than the human LI scenes.

Oh, I'd also like to be intimate or have moments with one's LI without it being possibly being the last thing we'll ever do alive. Doesn't have to be sex, but I wish things like the slump scene in ME1 could happen more than one in ME3.

>_> I think that is everything.

[Mims]

I'm hoping they'll give us the option to confirm a romance early on in the game. [For returning ME1/ME2 romances.] Like a line of dialogue that will turn off the other romances until you break it off with whoever you're with. That way we can chill with new characters, and don't need to worry about dodging flirt lines.

[And similarly- for people who want to do the ME3 romances, allow them to be able to break it off with X early on.]

[Leonia]

As Mims suggested plus I'd add that it would be nice to confirm whether our ME2 relationship was a "fling" or something more "real", some of them felt more fleshed out than others and there should be an opportunity to talk to our LI early on. Anything more than that is great, of course, but I'd really like to clear the air with the LI as soon as possible to set the tone for the rest of the game.

[spirosz]

leonia42 wrote...

As Mims suggested plus I'd add that it would be nice to confirm whether our ME2 relationship was a "fling" or something more "real", some of them felt more fleshed out than others and there should be an opportunity to talk to our LI early on. Anything more than that is great, of course, but I'd really like to clear the air with the LI as soon as possible to set the tone for the rest of the game.

I agree, it could add to some interesting banter or conversations with other characters as well.  Like in DA, when other party members comment on your LI and another example would be Kasumi, I loved that she commented on whoever you were romancing. 

I believe each romance has a unique road ahead too; Thane with the dying issue, Miranda and her ties to Cerberus, VS situation (Horizon, their new rank), etc.  It can lead to some pretty deep situations, especially with the whole Reaper threat and whatever else is going to happen.  I really hope Bioware is able to nail each romance to what their fanbases want. 

[PauseforEffect]

More acknowledgement from Garrus himself would be nice. The moments spent talking to him about his relationship with Shepard is sooooo short. Like he doesn't want to talk about it and is hiding behind his diagnostics to avoid going into depth about it. To have him more self-assured about how he feels towards Shepard and even a gesture of affection, SOMETHING, that doesn't make it seem that Shepard's carrying the whole romance on her part alone. ME2 left me worried that things didn't go well, there's no input from Garrus about what he thought about the aftermath of their consumation.
I know, I know, it's implied that things went ok, but the player can definitely tell that the developers were very uncomfortable making this romance. Oh Bioware, I will always be grateful that you made this possible, but please don't half-bag it!

[Leonia]

Is the Garrus romance arc the only one that doesn't get an after-sex conversation? With what little dialogue he already had in the game it feels like we got the short-end of the stick in terms of romance as well.

Modifié par leonia42, 14 septembre 2011 - 03:53 .

[Asenza]

leonia42 wrote...

Is the Garrus romance arc the only one that doesn't get an after-sex conversation? With what little dialogue he already had in the game it feels like we got the short-end of the stick in terms of romance as well.

Thane and Jack don't, either.

[PauseforEffect]

We get one liine, "I've got some diagnostics to finish, but don't worry. I haven't forgotten what we, uh, talked about."
It really left me worried the first time I played that the experience was horrible for Garrus. The fade to black before you see Garrus touch Shepard just smacks of how badly the developers wanted it to be over.
At least they let your Shepard cuddle with him but because it's a cut and paste with the rest of the romances, it just doesn't help a whole lot.

[PauseforEffect]

Asenza wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Is the Garrus romance arc the only one that doesn't get an after-sex conversation? With what little dialogue he already had in the game it feels like we got the short-end of the stick in terms of romance as well.

Thane and Jack don't, either.

Don't know about Jack, but Thane has the grace to ask how Shepard is doing. Yes, Garrus is not the most romantic personality, but he could set aside a few moments like Jacob does to see how Shepard feels.

[Leonia]

I honestly feel like there was more for Garrus but it got cut out, the conversation he is referring to in that line (if you're lucky enough to get that line, some people don't even get that after the suicide mission) doesn't actually happen. I don't think it's a matter of him brushing Shepard off so much as the devs just.. didn't put all the material there (and we have heard before about some of his lines being cut).

Anyway.. sorry to detract from the original subject, it's a shame that not all romances were treated equally in ME2 (granted, there are now nine romance arcs to keep track of without including whatever new ones ME3 brings).

Modifié par leonia42, 14 septembre 2011 - 04:29 .

[Asenza]

PrimalEden wrote...

We get one liine, "I've got some diagnostics to finish, but don't worry. I haven't forgotten what we, uh, talked about."
It really left me worried the first time I played that the experience was horrible for Garrus. The fade to black before you see Garrus touch Shepard just smacks of how badly the developers wanted it to be over.
At least they let your Shepard cuddle with him but because it's a cut and paste with the rest of the romances, it just doesn't help a whole lot.

Aww, Garrus really says something like that?


@ PrimalEden,


Yes, Thane asks how Shepard was doing, but he doesn't say anything post romance scene.

Modifié par Asenza, 14 septembre 2011 - 04:34 .

[Lady Luck]

I don't care, I just want to be called 'Siha' by Thane again.

Modifié par Blue_2, 14 septembre 2011 - 04:37 .

[PauseforEffect]

Really? Huh, could never do Thane's romance to the end. Just didn't feel right to hit on a guy who just reconciled with his son. My condolences to those who romanced him.
Managed to deal with my complaints by romancing Garrus post-suicide mission so that Shepard at least can have the last conversation loop. Makes him sound more enthusiastic also

[Chewin]

Blue_2 wrote...

I don't care, I just want to be called 'Siha' by Thane again.

'Siha' is just a random word that Thane calls all his girlfriends so that he doesn't have to remember their names.

Yes I'm that cruel. I know.

[Lady Luck]

Chewin3 wrote...
'Siha' is just a random word that Thane calls all his girlfriends so that he doesn't have to remember their names.

Yes I'm that cruel. I know.

HAH! That's horrible:D

[Golden Owl]

Miranda and Liara being jacked off that Shep chose to be with someone else or no-one over them.

[ArcanaLegacy]

leonia42 wrote...

Is the Garrus romance arc the only one that doesn't get an after-sex conversation? With what little dialogue he already had in the game it feels like we got the short-end of the stick in terms of romance as well.

Sadly, its true X( And it freaking sucks. I think it was a DERP moment on BW's part. Seriously....everyone got some comment AFTER the romance. [didnt they?]
Tali: Check [she admits she's sick, but still worth it.]
Jack: Check [er....forgot what she says. Emotional stuff. but forgot the exact words.]
Thane: Check [in a love letter but still counts]
Jacob: Check [he kisses Shep for crying out loud!]
Miranda: ??? Im pretty cure she does. Can anything tell me what she says? *curious*
Garrus: Sudden amnesia?! DX

Honestly, I have a file for a loyal romance with Garrus and another for Thane [would make another for Joker]. Garrus is my absolute #1 though. I can see why people can be anticipating the romance b/w GarrusxShep to further blossom, since me2 didnt exactly progress far. But you gotta understand that their relationship is literally going thru phases in each game. Thats what makes it the best romance. ME1 = Mentor/student-friends. ME2 = Close friends-best friends-transition to lovers. Which means ME3 will focus on the current phase - ALL about the love! lol XP They take it as just regular banter, "blowing off steam" as a way to get together, but it turns out to be more meaningful to Garrus as the game progresses. Especially at the end when he wants "something to go right." That pulled my heart strings. 
As long as its clearly established that they are actually dating, by EVERYONE, im good. Garrus acknowledges it, wants to be with shep and shows it. Maybe even defend the relationship if need be at certain points in the game. No more of the awkwardness from me2 [although it WAS utterly adorable]. ME3 is 6-12months from ME2. Its clear that its been enough time for Garrus to get used to the fact that he has a human girlfriend XD

I generally want each romance to pretty much have this though - acknowledgement/confirmation. Sweet banter b/w the two, glances at each other throughout the game, and plently of hugs/nuzzling. It WOULD be nice if the LI comes up to Shepard's cabin to check up on her/him for a change! Shep always talks to everyone, why cant they go to shepard? It could be like the romance scenes but a couple placed throughout the game and not just at the freaking end right before some climax battle. It cant just be up to shepard to say when they should see each other. If the LI wants to see how shepard is doing, or just spend some time together - have them come up on their own accord. This is the end of the trilogy - time for BW to pull out ALL the stops.

Asenza wrote...

PrimalEden wrote...

We get one liine, "I've got some diagnostics to finish, but don't worry. I haven't forgotten what we, uh, talked about."
It really left me worried the first time I played that the experience was horrible for Garrus. The fade to black before you see Garrus touch Shepard just smacks of how badly the developers wanted it to be over.
At least they let your Shepard cuddle with him but because it's a cut and paste with the rest of the romances, it just doesn't help a whole lot.

Aww, Garrus really says something like that?

Go back to garrus right after finishing the 1st romance chat and he'll say that ^_O
And they do cuddle....when you invite him up to sheps cabin XP But i get what you mean. I wouldve liked to see a few seconds after garrus touched sheps arm. Darn that fade to black transition
Something like THIS wouldve been perfectly fine with me!  
Cue to famous comic known by many garrus fans X3

Modifié par ArcanaLegacy, 15 septembre 2011 - 04:06 .

[PauseforEffect]

That comic makes me tear up every time.
Surely that's not terrible for Bioware to do for us, right? Can anyone who's creeped out by a Garrus/Shepard pairing tell us if this is too much?

[ArcanaLegacy]

@PrimalEden
OF COURSE its not too much to askk hun ;P
BW even supports it, but they were taking baby steps. In ME1, they didnt put Garrus [or Tali for that matter] as an option since they didnt think ppl would like the aliens. Cue the CRAZY demand from us fans and the romace was born. BW admitted a handful of months ago to the fact that Garrus is the most popular romance,well- falling VERY closely behind Tali who is the #1 for sure. Ironically its the romances that became available AFTER the fans' demands that are the most popular lol.

and yes - that comic just so beautiful. It gets me everytime too. It speaks volumes, even with no dialog whatsoever.It pulls my heartstrings whenever i see it, particularly panel 7. Its my fav pic [aside from panel 4 too. 7 is just so....i cant even put that emotion into words of its beauty making me speechless]. I feel all warm and fuzzy looking at it.
 

Modifié par ArcanaLegacy, 15 septembre 2011 - 04:20 .

[pf17456]

I like the idea of crew members and others remarking on Shepard's relationship.

I think the relationship between Liara and Shepard is far enough along for them to share The Captain's quarters so I'd like to see that as an option.

I'd like to have an ongoing and developing dialogue with the Shepard LI which would include personal history, humor, casual conversation, intimacy, strategic planning and maybe a spat.

Some realistic and artistic love making scenes

A wedding or ceremony at the end and maybe some blue babies as an epilogue would be nice.

[phantomdragoness]

that comic. XD

But yes, I'd like to see people comment on relationships. Of course they don't have to bring it up all the time - there are more important things - but just an acknowledgement of some sort. For example: If Shepard romanced an alien, Terra Firma may send emails telling Shepard how he/she is weakening the human standard; wonder if it would be brought up during the trial at all? Including breaching regs in dating his/her subordinates.

To sate my plot bunny side, I hope BioWare understands that while we may have romanced a character in ME, then stayed single in ME2, the game does not automatically conclude we want to get back together with the LI from ME. I'm pretty sure they've thought of it, just thinking aloud here. Since new LIs will be available in ME3, I have a few single Shepards then a few others who romanced in ME, but are open for another LI in ME3.

Thought the idea was interesting.

[mauro2222]

I'm playing Dragon Age Origins now, if they can make romances or party banter like DA:O. I would be incredibly happy.

[PauseforEffect]

Aww, that's good to know ArcanaLegacy. We still have ME3 to look forward to and I have faith that we'll see more from Garrus yet about this!
And as much as I like to talk about Garrus, the other LI are being neglected. Not to mention the gay romances in ME3 awaiting. I would like to know if Kelly will say anything to my Infiltrator who romanced her if she goes looking for a relationship with, say, Ashley?

[CMDR Locke]

I think only the VS and Liara have any right to comment on any relationship status.

Even Tali and Garrus need to mind their own business. And they are my favorite two characters.

Honestly I'd get pretty pissed if I was the CO of a star faring warship, on a mission to save the Galaxy from an immortal race of sentient machines waiting in darkspace, if some random crew members was all "YOOOOO Shep you tap that?"