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This train of thought was sparked in reaction to what is happening with The Old Republic as it expands into the MMO realm. Specifically the work by Drew Karpyshyn in his upcoming novel to effectively canonize Revan.

As a result alot of background facts about Revan are being nailed down in one direction or another. For example, Revan will now officially be male and saved the Republic. Mind you, the people at Bioware have made it clear that this is not intended to invalidate the choices players made in their own games playing the Knights of the Old Republic. This is to lay a common framework - a separate path - that everyone can refer to as part of the process of building up the story of the Old Republic MMO.

The reason I specify this is because we can expect that eventually, as the Mass Effect franchise evolves beyond Shepard's story, there will be a need to develop the same common framework for future games. In short you can expect Bioware at some point will need to canonize Shepard.

For the moment one might assume Bioware would just use what they've already put together. Meaning that the classic Sheploo model for Male Shepard would be rehashed for their canon Shepard. However I think they should go with a very different approach this time.

My suggestion is that the future canon Shepard should be Female, and to take it a step further, she also had a romance with Liara.

There are a wide number of reasons why this would work so well. For starters some of the biggest fans of the Mass Effect series are also fans of FemShep. While it is true most of the people who played Mass Effect tended to play a male Shepard, this was primarily due to the fact that male Shepard was simply the default character. For the people who really tended to get deep into the game, the hardcore fans, most of them played FemShep at least once.

To put it another way, most of the people who played male Shepard probably won't be too bothered if Shepard turns out to be female in some distant future project. By contrast people who played female Shepard tend to be much more devoted to their character's story and the franchise, and therefore would get a much deeper appreciation if canon Shepard turned out to be female as well.
Keep in mind I'm talking about generalizations here, I'm sure there are plenty of exceptions out there. My point is Bioware will get more bang for their fan service buck by making Shepard female.

To prove my point look at how passionate fans have been about FemShep recently. The best Mass Effect cosplay features Holly Conrad as female Shepard, and have you heard Morgan Webb talking about Shepard on G4? She insists that Shepard must be female every time. The fact that the fans themselves had a say in what female Shepard should look like is huge. Even if not all the fans agree, even if the end result isn't exactly what everyone wanted, the important thing to keep in mind is that the default FemShep was decided based on direct fan input, for better or worse this is what the fans wanted. The fact that FemShep is getting so much attention at all for ME3 is a result of the huge outpouring of support from fans of FemShep.  This all speaks volumes on the dedication of female Shepard fans out there. And likewise it would be a huge gesture on the part of Bioware if the future canon Shepard was ultimately the one decided by the fans.

For me, however, the best reason to make future canon Shepard female is because the overall story just has more impact. The story of Shepard just becomes more interesting and more compelling once you add the detail that she was a woman. I have nothing against male Shepard - and in fact I really enjoy playing my male paragon vanguard - but story from the male Shepard perspective has this tendency to get boiled down to just a basic story of some jarhead shooting the crap out of everything till the galaxy was saved. Cool enough certainly but not nearly as compelling to me.

This is the same reason why I feel that a romance history with Liara would be the best choice. I admit, I'm a big Liara fan, she is my favorite romance option followed very closely by Tali. But a big part of that is because I feel the story of Liara in relation to Shepard is a much more significant one. More so then any other character we've seen Liara grow and develop into a really cool character. Likewise the story of Liara and Shepard's romance is that much more compelling to me then any of the other romances. ( Though again, Tali runs a very close second. :) ) After all look at all the sacrifices Liara went through to retrieve Shepard's body, and the risks she took just on the chance she could be brought to life. In addition a romance with Liara adds additional dramatic elements just from the mere fact that she is an alien. Themes of racial tensions, cultures clashing, and having to work with that while still maintaining a relationship all makes for a much more interesting romance and a much more interesting story overall.

This does bring up a question about Bioware's previous marketing. After all if the franchise was originally built on a male Shepard model how can they work moving to a female one? That's actually very simple as it turns out. Firstly it is important to understand that such a future product will be very different, they won't need to use Shepard at all for the marketing since it will be a very different story set in the same universe. ( Much like how you won't see Revan on the cover of the SWTOR game box. ) Beyond that they already laid the groundwork to explain this change in the game itself. Recall how Jacob mentions that the Alliance replaced Shepard with another model for their advertisements, because apparently she didn't "test well". So it's not a stretch to say that the Alliance had a male model on their advertisements since they felt that would "test better" despite the fact that Shepard was female. It would certainly add an interesting twist to the future of the Mass Effect story.

Yes this is all just my opinion of what I think will make the best story in the end. Feel free to share yours. :)


tl;dr - If you're too lazy to actually read more then two sentences then I don't care about your opinion anyway.

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They don't intend to make a canon and I doubt it would be for a female Shep. Lucas Arts is sort of a bad example for canon because they not only have one, but many, in a hierarchy.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 14 septembre 2011 - 05:11 .


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Good read. Well written.

I can't say I've dwelled on it much. I don't really follow TOR (although that may change in due time) so I wasn't familiar with the canonization of Revan. Makes sense of course.

Your hypothesis that Shepard may well eventually be treated similarly has dawned on me when I've considered how exactly BioWare will pursue the potential series MMO. And while I typically roll MaleShep romancing either Ashley or Tali, I definitely see your point.

If there must be a framework in future installments FemShep with Liara is a good choice.

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There is no canon. I read the whole thing wich is pretty much what everybody has with Mass Effect.. trying to push what they experience as canon.
The story is exactly the same and doesn't change if your sex does.

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I enjoy my Shepard's story, and I respect everybody's Shepards, but I would not want to have a cannon as this would ruin my cannon. This is one reason why I think a mmo would be stupid as they would have to establish a cannon. I would like to see a Mass Effect game 150 years later were you import your ME3 save for history.

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they will, when (if it actually gets done) they make the movie they talked about being in the works this past summer.....hudson is on record as saying you have to pick a male or a female for marketing...they've always picked a male in the past....i'm guessing that's the way they lean this time too....

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An RPG is a personal experience for me. Whatever Bioware does with Shepard from this point on, no matter how "canon" they make him, my canon will lie with my playthroughs.

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It depends on how much an impact Shepard is to play in future games. As it stands, there is no canon Shepard and BW has gone to great lengths to keep Shepard's gender, class and appearance ambiguous. However, if Shepard, like Revan, is presented in any form outside the three games, then s/he will be canonized into a male soldier. In a way, Shepard is already being canonized by the ME movie. While I for one will see the movie as an epic bit of fanfic, that will not stop the overflow of "Canon Shepard is a DUDE, deal with it!" posts and blog entries.

I for one do not care either way. That Revan was canonized into a male did not negate my enjoyment of a female Revan playthrough. My "canon" Shepard is a female vanguard who romanced Liara. If BW wants to go w/ another route, fine. It won't be my Shepard.

Modifié par JamieCOTC, 14 septembre 2011 - 06:04 .


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No canon. You do what you do, and I'll do the same. Why is that so hard?

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Mass Effect as massive as it is the problem isn't cannonizing Shepard, but the whole universe. After reading the books a reference to Shepard sexuality or gender is never really made or solidified. The descisions the players make is what defines Mass Effect, He/She is really nothing more than an avatar, a direct rendering of the players thoughts and feeling. Male, female really doesn't matter when it all boils down, besides the whole galaxy is at stake not just Shepard.

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there is no canon Shepard, there will be no canon Shepard. the only reference to Shepard will be "Shepard did this" "Shepard did that" "Shepard was awesome" and I hope it stays that way.

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Has Shepard already been beatified?

I see no need to canonise Shep's Gender, LI and appearance for future games. I do hope that the actual outcomes of Mass Effect 3 are varied enough that they are compelled to pick one of them as a canon outcome for future installments, though.

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Only my Shepard is canon.

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One thing I'll mention is that LucasArts had declared Revan is male. LucasArts also deemed the Exile female. So this comes from the top and isn't up to Bioware or Drew for the novels.

As for canonizing Shepard, I don't see how they'd make Shepard male. It'd be a nice gesture, but I don't see it happening. It would also be a nice gesture if Shepard were a person of color, but I also don't see that happening.

With Liara being default, I have an ax to grind with that. I feel like I'm being force-fed Liara T'soni and I'm not happy with it. With that out of the way however, you have to look at why Liara would be a better choice for a canon romance if not Kaidan, Ashley, or Shepard remaining single. Of course I have my ideas about Shepard being linked with Shiala, but that's also a pipe dream.

In any case, what I'm trying to get at is that Shepard would have to be defined as to what her likes and dislikes are. Her temperament and her background would have to be decided. Is she from the colonies, a spacer, or earthborn. Did she do what she did for the ruthless background, is she a war hero, or sole survivor. By far I think Sole Survivor will play a bigger part because of Cerberus and the idea presented in the first game that Cerberus was a shadow organization belonging to the Alliance.

Now that all leads back to why Shepard joined the military. For my latest Shepard, she's a spacer. She joined the Alliance as soon as she could after hearing the events on Mindoir. I imagine her playing a role during the battle of Elysium, but she wasn't the star of the show so to speak. Instead, what she's most noted for is surviving the thresher Maw attack on Akuze. I like the idea that because she probably knew how ships were run that she got kind of a swelled head when she climbed up the ranks and Akuze humbled her enormously. There's a lot of guilt and shame to be had with such a background which makes for better internal and external conflict involved - especially if a younger sibling is involved that followed in your footsteps until the events of Akuze which changed Shepard and made her less than what she was (in her eyes and the eyes of her sibling).

But, as I said, that all has to be hammered down and that should influence (a great deal) in what Shepard looks for in a partner.

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A. The galaxy was saved five hundred years ago by an Alliance soldier.

B. The galaxy was saved five hundred years ago by a redheaded lesbian with an alien girlfriend.

Yep. B sounds more fun. A is so... uninteresting.

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They should make it so that Shepard has an evil genetically engineered modified clone called FemShep.

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I was very disapointed when they said that 'canon' Revan is male (for me Revan will always be female) and I don't want to see Shepard that way (no matter male of female). There is no canon gender or LI for Shepard. Everybody has his/her own character like in all BioWare games. That's one of the main reasons why I'm a huge fan of BioWare games

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

A. The galaxy was saved five hundred years ago by an Alliance soldier.

B. The galaxy was saved five hundred years ago by a redheaded lesbian with an alien girlfriend.

Yep. B sounds more fun. A is so... uninteresting.



If that's an Asari, I lost interest.

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capn233 wrote...

They should make it so that Shepard has an evil genetically engineered modified clone called FemShep.


lolololololololololol

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

A. The galaxy was saved five hundred years ago by an Alliance soldier.

B. The galaxy was saved five hundred years ago by a redheaded lesbian with an alien girlfriend.

Yep. B sounds more fun. A is so... uninteresting.

You put it so charmingly Cheez.

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

A. The galaxy was saved five hundred years ago by an Alliance soldier.

B. The galaxy was saved five hundred years ago by a redheaded lesbian with an alien girlfriend.

Yep. B sounds more fun. A is so... uninteresting.


I wholeheartedly agree.  :happy:

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I already consider John Shepard to be canon for BioWare, and the default choices are made the same way as well.

I expected this after Udina was made the default Councillor.

So, what BioWare does with Shepard's lore is their way of doing things, but it doesn't invalidate the choices I made with my six Shepards so far.

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Kreidian wrote...


My suggestion is that the future canon Shepard should be Female, and to take it a step further, she also had a romance with Liara.


My suggestion is that the future canon Shepard should be my Shepard. I would gladly provide BW with my save file.

Your reasoning sounds like: Make Canon Shepard a female with a Liara romance, since they are the best. (Because that's what I like most)

<_<

Modifié par Errol Dnamyx, 14 septembre 2011 - 06:33 .


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Shepard should be a she-male. That would make everyone happy right?

[Sarcasm intended]

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BatmanPWNS wrote...

Shepard should be a she-male. That would make everyone happy right?

[Sarcasm intended]


chas bono style, or lady gaga style?