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Announcing the next Dragon Age II DLC - Mark of the Assassin


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Carver: I came back as soon as I could. The Wardens really needed me but your letter said it was urgent, what is it?
Hawke: We're robbing an Orlesian noble.

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Bryy_Miller wrote...

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Would it make much sense if DLC Tallis looked dramatically different from Redemption Tallis?


No, but what Brock is trying to say is that the characters often times look too much like the actors that voice them, to the disadvantage of the graphics engine. 


Right. The great thing with video games (as I see it anyway) is that you can create things that don't exist. So just modeling a character after the face of the voice actor often seems uninspired. Especially when its rare given present technology that the voice actor's face will end up looking good and not just awkwardly stuck in the Uncanny Valley.

Unless you have a tip top engine that can surpass the Uncanny Valley in terms of facial animations and just rendering of faces, I think its better to dissociate voice actors' likeness from their in game character. Maybe use elements of the voice actor's look, but not necessarily attempting a 1:1 representation.

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
It's easy for a person to make a video game character with their own look  before they appear in any real life adaptation. But when you see a real  life version of a character, chances are you may find that the voice and the look of the character do not mesh well together.

Now, they  could work with Felicia to find a look that works well, but there aren't any guarantees that one can be found.


Fair enough- Its more to the point that I don't have any interest in the web series, so from my POV why saddle the video game with the limitations of a real life web series? Continuity and all that- I get it.

Modifié par Brockololly, 17 septembre 2011 - 01:42 .


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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

saMOOrai182 wrote...

That Crossbow that guy had interests me.....

I wish Hawke could use it. :/



It looks like a mini-crossbow. I'm wondering if it might be built into his armor?


I doubt it. It looked like he was grabbing it from his back.

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Brockololly wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Maconbar wrote...

Would it make much sense if DLC Tallis looked dramatically different from Redemption Tallis?


No, but what Brock is trying to say is that the characters often times look too much like the actors that voice them, to the disadvantage of the graphics engine. 


Right. The great thing with video games (as I see it anyway) is that you can create things that don't exist. So just modeling a character after the face of the voice actor often seems uninspired. Especially when its rare given present technology that the voice actor's face will end up looking good and not just awkwardly stuck in the Uncanny Valley.

Unless you have a tip top engine that can surpass the Uncanny Valley in terms of facial animations and just rendering of faces, I think its better to dissociate voice actors' likeness from their in game character. Maybe use elements of the voice actor's look, but not necessarily attempting a 1:1 representation.


I agree with this. I personally didn't get into Miranda in ME2 having the looks and voice of the actual actress (Yvonne Strahovsky), though she's fairly well known, but I got used to that. Voice is fine, but I like originality in the creating character looks from scratch. OTH, I personally think Felicia is not a good voice actor, though I think she's has some overall talent when combining her assets as a whole. Just hearing what little dialogue of her in the promo video, didn't leave a good first impression for me, IMO.

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I liked all the werewolves heads hanging on the wall. Well we are going to Orlasis to steal a jewel of the many and more than likely it will be a part of a 3 piece set that fits with our key and unlocks a gateway in the deeproads beneath Orlasis. I thinking more nexus golems and fade battles are in our future. If we are lucky we may fnd more lore on flemeth due to the fact that Morrigan was said to have went there at the end of DAO.

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Isn’t having Talis look a little like Felicia part of the point of having Felicia? In any case, within the context of the DA2, I like the character design well enough.

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Im just glad to see what i consider a normal looking elf. Hope this is a sneak preview of the elf design in a near future.

Modifié par Zhijn, 17 septembre 2011 - 02:40 .


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JohnEpler wrote...

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What i heard sounded very promising, though i was slightly disappointed there won't be dancing(Isabela on the dance floor might have caused uproar though).


I've long argued for a dance off. I think David's on board, too, so someday... someday...



Lol this I would pay to see lol.  That be too freakin hilarious

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At the very least, DLC should give us some nice scenes with our LI's. We all know we are ooey gooey romantics at heat,

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Zhijn wrote...

Im just glad to see what i consider a normal looking elf. Hope this is a sneak preview of the elf design in a near future.


God I hope not. 

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Looks interesting so far. Moar loot is always good as well (hopefully we get a few more weapons, items, armor sets that level up with the player, that was my only gripe with Legacy).

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Kazanth wrote...

Carver: I came back as soon as I could. The Wardens really needed me but your letter said it was urgent, what is it?
Hawke: We're robbing an Orlesian noble.



See, I find that hilarious in a good way.  Because sarcastic Hawke would totally do that to Carver. 

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hawke is so charming with smile.

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Kazanth wrote...

Carver: I came back as soon as I could. The Wardens really needed me but your letter said it was urgent, what is it?
Hawke: We're robbing an Orlesian noble.


This is why we won't be telling Carver.

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You know. I think Carver might be my favourite character.

(And, I really liked what he had to say at the end of Legacy, Act 2.)

Despite the fact that having no Aveline meant I was getting my ass kicked, I had to take him along for Legacy. I might have to do the same for this one.

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Brockololly wrote...
Continuity and all that

Oh, the irony. It burns.

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Zhijn wrote...

Im just glad to see what i consider a normal looking elf. Hope this is a sneak preview of the elf design in a near future.

This!

Honestly, the Uncanny Valley isn't nearly as bad as in Miranda's case (which IMHO also suffered from black hair not suiting the face) and if that's the base looks-wise for elves going forward, I can definitely dig that.

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i guess i will be skipping this one unless it is on par or surpasses Legacy
and my reason for this is ... Felicia Day sooooo overrated
and never liked her anyways

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Overrated or not, Felicia Day is probably one of the geekest and popular female geeks I know. At least give her some credits for that.

Modifié par Teddie Sage, 17 septembre 2011 - 11:58 .


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Zhijn wrote...

Im just glad to see what i consider a normal looking elf. Hope this is a sneak preview of the elf design in a near future.


This x 100000000 ;)

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saMOOrai182 wrote...

That Crossbow that guy had interests me.....

I wish Hawke could use it. :/


No doubt, I wish Crossbows would make a comeback lol.  And this time, actually work? Only reason I never used them in Origins is because they were just flat out broken, and not in the "zomg they're overpowered" kind of way either.

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Speaking of crossbows my character in origins was using one of those, in DA3 or in this dlc you might be using a modified single handed crossbow that you might use.

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dsl08002 wrote...

Speaking of crossbows my character in origins was using one of those, in DA3 or in this dlc you might be using a modified single handed crossbow that you might use.


that would be soooooo nerdgasm B)

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Can't wait to play this through with roguehawke isabela sebastian and tallis as my party!

Is this introducing the new companion armor system?

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Brockololly wrote...

Right. The great thing with video games (as I see it anyway) is that you can create things that don't exist. So just modeling a character after the face of the voice actor often seems uninspired. Especially when its rare given present technology that the voice actor's face will end up looking good and not just awkwardly stuck in the Uncanny Valley.


I'm fine with modelling the face after the VA as long as the VA is an actor who doesn't always use the same voice.  Felicia Day in this sounds like Felicia day in every other thing she does. 

With Tallis having Felicia's red hair, non-Welsh or Irish accent, and more "human" looks than the other elves, I would love the option to have Hawke accuse Tallis of being a human in disguise.

I didn't mind the Strahovski/Miranda thing as much because Yvonne Strahovski is an actress who varies what voice she uses.  For ME2 she was asked to speak with her native Australian accent, which differentiates her from the voice she uses for the character (Sarah Walker) that the majority of the world knows her for (along with the black hair).  It just never seemed as shoehorned.

I am very much looking forward to how Isabella reacts to this situation.  I'm curious about her dealings with the Qunari.

Modifié par MrNose, 17 septembre 2011 - 02:20 .