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Announcing the next Dragon Age II DLC - Mark of the Assassin


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question: will most or all of the enemies continue to use the Origins combat animations or will they use the new animations? Because I'm praying for the latter.

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Mr.House wrote...
All heist stories are ripoffs on the bsn :devil:


I hear ya.

Ultimately, it's all about the execution.

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I'm very excited for this DLC. I kept thinking it would be cool to Felicia Day's character in DA2, I just never thought they would do it. I've learned my lesson: Do not underestimate the power of Laidlaw.

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Mr.House wrote...

You are stealing a relic, not something that belong to a dead boyfriend. That's the big diffrence.


She's a rogue type character who've come to ask you to join her on a mission to steal something from someone really wealthy. Breaking into a vault. Only to find out that it's a trap all along, likely to capture Tallis. 

Depends on how you look at it, it might be very different, very similar or anywhere in between (from initial impression at least).

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I can see that there is a lot of focus on the Orlais theme... I'm liking their style ;-) The animation is beautiful and this whole 'heist' thing reminds me of the Kasumi DLC... but I have to say, it really looks way more grand. I loved the trailer, everything was spot on, and the ending with the whole BANG and then the logo of DRAGON AGE II MARK OF THE ASSASSIN made my hairs go up...if that's how you phrase it.

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SphereofSilence wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

You are stealing a relic, not something that belong to a dead boyfriend. That's the big diffrence.


She's a rogue type character who've come to ask you to join her on a mission to steal something from someone really wealthy. Breaking into a vault. Only to find out that it's a trap all along, likely to capture Tallis. 

Depends on how you look at it, it might be very different, very similar or anywhere in between (from initial impression at least).


When it comes to writing, there's a saying that everything that could be done has already been done. In terms of plot, I've heard people say there are 24 basic ones. Others say 7. One lit teacher I had said you can reduce everything down to 2: a stranger comes to town, and a (wo)man goes on a journey. Plots are not really where you get the most variety, though. Usually that comes from characters, dialogue, scene, etc. So if the stories share some superficial similarities, I'm cool with that. So long as the characters are different and the whole thing feels like DA rather than ME.

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How do I get the feeling that this is "Kasumi - Stolen Memory" trasferred to DA world?

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Will Dragon Age Redemption be released in conjunction with this DLC? Seems like a good marketing strategy. You know - to get to know more of her background after the DLC.

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Sounds fun. Not particularly interesting (though I hope to be surprised), but fun. It's going to be hard to choose companions. All my favorite characters look to be involved in this and the sibling will be available on top of it.

One question. If the guest character is the main character of that web series, Is that going to make this new series canon or what? (I honestly haven't been following the news on this.)

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Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Yus. It's a different approach than
we've taken before, and it is optional (not everyone likes the
sneaking). It's also fairly simple, since we're constrained by what we
can do with a DLC, but it will be interesting to get feedback on it and
see if people would like us to push it further, or tweak.


For this info you have earned my money -- I'm a sucker for sneaking mechanics and cant pass up the oppertunity to see how you guys do it :)

Chris Priestly wrote...

I won't stop you answering fan questions (not that I could without a straight jacket, a series of progressively stronger animal tranquilizers and an almost comicly large mallet). This group'll ask your ear off, so I was giving you an out if you needed some rest.

"Sleep is for the weak", indeed. Just cuz I nap at my desk... *grumble*


Chris, what about that ban hammer you have at your desk, wouldnt that work as a stand in for the comicaly large mallet?


-TSD

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Will there be bug fixes included with this DLC? Specifically, will the Sunder bug be addressed?

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highcastle wrote...

When it comes to writing, there's a saying that everything that could be done has already been done. In terms of plot, I've heard people say there are 24 basic ones. Others say 7. One lit teacher I had said you can reduce everything down to 2: a stranger comes to town, and a (wo)man goes on a journey.


Two and seven are a bit overly cynical, I would think. But two dozen sounds about right.

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Ukki wrote...

How do I get the feeling that this is "Kasumi - Stolen Memory" trasferred to DA world?


Maybe I'm strange, but I really liked 'Stolen Memory'. *shrug* :)

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I think I like the idea of her being a temporary companion. I mean, I would have probably loved it even more if she were a full-game companion (I thought it was interesting that she had one of those "Introducing" marketing shots, plus it seems like she'll have some unique skills), but this is good, too. Prior to DA2's release, I assumed that there would be a few companions that only joined you for a particular period of time, so it's kind of cool to see something like that now.

I actually found that I had little problem playing Legacy as post-campaign content. Aside from the stuff in the mansion at the beginning and end, I didn't notice anything in there that actually contradicted it taking place after (even though I know officially it doesn't). I'm hoping that's the case here, because I'm not in the habit of replaying characters/playthroughs I've already done. And my canon Hawke is a rogue, so this would be perfect for him.

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Since they're introducing her as a temporary companion, I'm assuming she'll be a full one in DA3. Perhaps a LI?

Dammit Bioware you're giving us too many characters that we want to romance!

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I loved Felicia as Veronica in Vegas. So, I'm definitely looking forward to see how this elven character, she is playing, is gonna turn out to be. =)

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thats1evildude wrote...

highcastle wrote...

When it comes to writing, there's a saying that everything that could be done has already been done. In terms of plot, I've heard people say there are 24 basic ones. Others say 7. One lit teacher I had said you can reduce everything down to 2: a stranger comes to town, and a (wo)man goes on a journey.


Two and seven are a bit overly cynical, I would think. But two dozen sounds about right.


*shrugs* I've been studying lit and writing a long time. When you break things down to their basic components, you really can make those 7 and (usually) even those 2 work. It's a very reductionist exercise. Aristotle would be pleased, Plato less so. But this has little to do with DA2 except to say it fits into the stranger comes to town model, with Hawke filling the role of the stranger.

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Since they're introducing her as a temporary companion, I'm assuming she'll be a full one in DA3. Perhaps a LI?


I'd personally hope not, the uncanny valley is too strong with this one!

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Chris Priestly wrote...

JediHealerCosmin wrote...

Also, BioWare, when are you guys going to get Morgan Freeman to voice a character?

*waves hand*  You know you want to


It would be excellent, but does the man have any free time? I mean, he's in liek 4 new movies every month.



:devil:


Screw that crap, Tom Jones, Dalish Keeper, you know exactly where to go with that. Just make it happen.

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How long is the dlc? Same as Legacy?

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highcastle wrote...

thats1evildude wrote...

highcastle wrote...

When it comes to writing, there's a saying that everything that could be done has already been done. In terms of plot, I've heard people say there are 24 basic ones. Others say 7. One lit teacher I had said you can reduce everything down to 2: a stranger comes to town, and a (wo)man goes on a journey.


Two and seven are a bit overly cynical, I would think. But two dozen sounds about right.


*shrugs* I've been studying lit and writing a long time. When you break things down to their basic components, you really can make those 7 and (usually) even those 2 work. It's a very reductionist exercise. Aristotle would be pleased, Plato less so. But this has little to do with DA2 except to say it fits into the stranger comes to town model, with Hawke filling the role of the stranger.


Seems like Tallis is the stranger. Some of the footage from the trailer is in Kirkwall. I'm speculating here but it seems like they'd meet there.

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highcastle wrote...

When it comes to writing, there's a saying that everything that could be done has already been done. In terms of plot, I've heard people say there are 24 basic ones. Others say 7. One lit teacher I had said you can reduce everything down to 2: a stranger comes to town, and a (wo)man goes on a journey. Plots are not really where you get the most variety, though. Usually that comes from characters, dialogue, scene, etc. So if the stories share some superficial similarities, I'm cool with that. So long as the characters are different and the whole thing feels like DA rather than ME.


It's a fair point. Every story inevitably draw inspirations from somewhere, and may share similarities.

Proximity though is the issue I see here. We players of Bioware games may instantly see similarities between their games. Drawing ideas from other media is okay, so does drawing ideas from a close source. But whenever the latter can be avoided, it should IMO, unless there's some great value to it, which am hoping to see when MOTA comes out.

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As much as I'm kind of wary of it being a heist story (it's just not my preference), I do optimistically hope that it means this won't just be a combat-based dungeon crawler DLC. That there's stealth mechanic is interesting. I've wanted non-combat to make a return to Bioware games in a meaningful way. KOTOR felt like the last. Hopefully the stealth is better than Arrival.

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Chris Priestly wrote...
 A cross between Varric and Isabela, Tallis is a rogue who introduces a new fighting style to add more variety in combat. Get up close and personal with her deadly skills or stand back and pick off enemies with her ranged combat abilities.


Does this mean a new rogue specialization, or if not is there anything new talent wise?


It could be that just she has the unique playstyle due to her personal tree, much like how Sebastian has a unique archery playstyle. It would be nice if this DLC added some specializations (and not just for one class) though, but I doubt it.

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I see this as a subtle bridging DLC to.DA3.


Probably. We know Sandal will be in Orlais, and we also all know Dragon Age is the story of Sandal.