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Will Bioware Change The Elves Back?


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Gabey5

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for da3?

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or this

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what do you guys think?

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David Gaider

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Gabey5 wrote...
what do you guys think?


Poor Orana. Getting rolled out as the poster child by anyone who doesn't like the new elves. Personally, I think the worst thing about her appearance is that makeup -- I mean, what's up with the pastels? Gosh.

Beyond that, while our elves may be tweaked in appearance (and, indeed, our face morphing system for all characters is likely to change as we move forward anyhow), we're definitely not going back to humans-with-pointy-ears. So, while pulling up the best elven pictures from DAO and the worst elven pictures from DA2 may be an interesting exercise, it's not going to convince us to suddenly reverse course. Sorry.

Modifié par David Gaider, 18 septembre 2011 - 08:01 .


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tmp7704 wrote...
It's ironic that the example of "pretty DA2 elf" is face-scanned Felicia Day. I.e. essentially what people claim was so awful about the DAO elves -- a human with pointy ears. Posted Image


Yeah, I'm afraid not. We had a scan of Felicia's face and actually went through a process of deciding how much we wanted to "elf" her up. There were versions that ranged from "very" to "hardly at all" (with the latter looking more like a DAO version of an elf, even with a more human body)... the main argument being that, in order to more closely mirror Felicia's appearance in the webseries, we'd have to deviate from the new elven appearance. The versions were very different from each other.

Ultimately it was Felicia herself who said to go with the most elven version-- after all, a video game isn't as bound to reality as a live webseries, and she wanted to stick to the lore as much as possible.

So you could say that Tallis looks human and unlike the other elves from a screenshot, I suppose, but you'd be wrong.

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David Gaider

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tmp7704 wrote...
so i really don't think such assessment is "wrong".


It's as correct as the people who originally insisted that Merrill had giant breasts or Carver a derpy face, all from a single screenshot. Her in-game face is considerably different from her scan-- which is as different as elves get from humans, which is not as much as some might think but it's definitely there.

At any rate, as with Merrill and Carver there's little point in arguing about it. You'll see what I mean soon enough.

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Nerevar-as wrote...
The sad thing is, DA elves were unique. Besides Sapkowski´s work, I can´t think of any widely known setting were elves have it that bad. Why is there now such an obssession with the appearence? Most players who aren´t fans of the game aren´t going to recognize them for DA elves anyway, even if their reaction to the new looks is favorable, which from what I read here and other forums doesn´t seem to be the case.


The opinion on the new elven look is about as uniform as the opinion on DA2 itself, and I suspect there's a bit of blending of the two. At least some people aren't going to like the change just because it's a change, even if the original version of the elves wasn't all that spectacular. And even if that isn't the case, we're not crowd-sourcing the appearance of our races-- we wanted our races to be more distinct from one another as a goal, and that's what we've done. Short of the tweaks I mentioned earlier (which will come as technology changes demand, in particular), we're not going back to the original style.

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The Grey Nayr wrote...
As for her story. It seems odd that the Qunari would hire an elf to hunt down a rogue Serebaas. In DAII they seemed to prefer dealing with their affairs personally and the Arishok didn't have a high opinion of those who sell their blades for coin.


Yes, that would be odd. Maybe it comes up in the DLC?

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Sharn01 wrote...
I will give bioware a pass on not understanding that recessive traits can never be removed between a pairing, they may be rare, but they are not gone and have a tendency to show up in later generations, sometimes in the first children.


That's appreciated-- though you might also want to include in that understanding the fact that this has much more to do with magic and almost nothing to do with genetics.

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The Grey Nayr wrote...
If so, something tells me there's a story behind that. :P


That seems likely. ;)