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Will Bioware Change The Elves Back?


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I don't want them to change the elves back. In DA:O they were just small pointy eared humans. To be honest I was dissapointed they didn't change the dwarfs any.


THEY ARE STILL SMALL POINTY EARED HUMANS.

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I hope not as I like that they have made elves look and feel distinct from humans, however, I do hope they work on the faces a bit more to not have situations like Orana (who I find adorable, but with a really weird-looking face). Just work the face models a bit and elves will not only look unique but normal.


They are not distinct. They are still humans with pointy ears, BioWare have just thrown in some extra ugly and made them all anorexic.


I disagree. While most elves look terrible, there are a few saving graces like Marethari, Fenris and especially Merrill. And they do have a distinct feel and look to them (facial features and such), the problem is that most look downright strange. If they modelled elven faces mostly like Merrill's or Fenris they would be great.

Also, we are stating opinions. If the only response you can give is the "I'm right you're wrong" kind please refrain from posting. Geez... 

Modifié par Gaiden96, 03 janvier 2012 - 08:22 .


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Zevran looked .. messed up I suppose in DA:2. I perfer is DA:O look. But all the other elves looked great. So I approve of DA:2 elves. Just...not Zevran's look..x.x

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The point of criticizing Origins' elves (if there is any) as "just humans with pointy ears" is to emphasize how the pointy ears are the only thing different, not to say that to rectify the problem, elves should become non-human. They should just have more differences. Which DA2's do.

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Gaiden96 wrote...

alex90c wrote...

Gaiden96 wrote...

I hope not as I like that they have made elves look and feel distinct from humans, however, I do hope they work on the faces a bit more to not have situations like Orana (who I find adorable, but with a really weird-looking face). Just work the face models a bit and elves will not only look unique but normal.


They are not distinct. They are still humans with pointy ears, BioWare have just thrown in some extra ugly and made them all anorexic.


I disagree. While most elves look terrible, there are a few saving graces like Marethari, Fenris and especially Merrill. And they do have a distinct feel and look to them (facial features and such), the problem is that most look downright strange. If they modelled elven faces mostly like Merrill's or Fenris they would be great.


Give them human ears, blam, humans. Retarded looking ones sure, but still humans.

DA2 elves are not distinct.

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The point of criticizing Origins' elves (if there is any) as "just humans with pointy ears" is to emphasize how the pointy ears are the only thing different, not to say that to rectify the problem, elves should become non-human. They should just have more differences. Which DA2's do.


I fail to see what about DA2's elves makes them so difference. As if there is not a single human with creepy looking eyes, anorexic as f*ck or a flat, vertical nose.

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Let's just say that something went wrong.

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alex90c wrote...

SpiderFan1217 wrote...

I don't want them to change the elves back. In DA:O they were just small pointy eared humans. To be honest I was dissapointed they didn't change the dwarfs any.


THEY ARE STILL SMALL POINTY EARED HUMANS.


No, now they have accents, thinker brows, and a much larger nose bridge.

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Zevran looked .. messed up I suppose in DA:2. I perfer is DA:O look. But all the other elves looked great. So I approve of DA:2 elves. Just...not Zevran's look..x.x

I see Zevran's DA2 face in my nightmares.

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alex90c wrote...

I fail to see what about DA2's elves makes them so difference. As if there is not a single human with creepy looking eyes, anorexic as f*ck or a flat, vertical nose.


The fact that their differences are spread across the whole population of elves instead of just a few outliers as in the human population makes the differences significant.

Really I don't think anyone wants them to look alien, they still need to be able to reproduce with humans after all.

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alex90c wrote...

THEY ARE STILL SMALL POINTY EARED HUMANS.


With a prominent bridge virtually eliminating the nasal root found in humans. Not to mention their enlarged irises and all around thinner builds depite being the same height as humans.

Modifié par Zanallen, 03 janvier 2012 - 08:29 .


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AngryFrozenWater wrote...

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Zanallen wrote...

alex90c wrote...

THEY ARE STILL SMALL POINTY EARED HUMANS.


With a prominent bridge virtually eliminating the nasal root found in humans. Not to mention that enlarged irises and the all around thinner builds depite being the same height as humans.


Oh, add those things to my resonse too.

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Zanallen wrote...

alex90c wrote...

THEY ARE STILL SMALL POINTY EARED HUMANS.


With a prominent bridge virtually eliminating the nasal root found in humans. Not to mention their enlarged irises and all around thinner builds depite being the same height as humans.


so.... ugly humans.

gotta love how you tried to make those differences out to be such a big thing when they're not.

Modifié par alex90c, 03 janvier 2012 - 08:31 .


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alex90c wrote...

so.... ugly humans.

gotta love how you tried to make those differences out to be such a big thing when they're not.


Different strokes and all that.

And its more than just slightly longer, pointed ears. That's all I need.

Modifié par Zanallen, 03 janvier 2012 - 08:32 .


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SpiderFan1217 wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

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You mean those blue eyes that were suddenly greenish? :P

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AngryFrozenWater wrote...

SpiderFan1217 wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

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Image IPB  Aww, she's so cute. Look at those eyes.  Image IPB

You mean those blue eyes that were suddenly greenish? :P


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I would prefer the da2 elven look in da3, i say merrill looked better in da2 and the same goes for zevran.

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What I REALLY wanna see, is what Sten would look like with those horns.

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Zanallen wrote...

alex90c wrote...

so.... ugly humans.

gotta love how you tried to make those differences out to be such a big thing when they're not.


Different strokes and all that.

And its more than just slightly longer, pointed ears. That's all I need.


DA:O elves weren't particularly special, but I still preferred them to the retarded DA2 ones.

then again, this might slightly

slightly

be affected by my unrelenting hatred of the game :whistle:

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SpiderFan1217 wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

SpiderFan1217 wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

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Image IPB  Aww, she's so cute. Look at those eyes.  Image IPB

You mean those blue eyes that were suddenly greenish? :P

Image IPB  Big deal. My eyes changed color.  Image IPB

Do you like Merrill also have very heavy hair pulling her eyebrows up to make her constantly look surprised overnight? And is your regular facial expression being changed into a look that feels like constantly being able to burst into tears? That cute look feels like she is in pain. Ghehe.

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Zevran looked .. messed up I suppose in DA:2. I perfer is DA:O look. But all the other elves looked great. So I approve of DA:2 elves. Just...not Zevran's look..x.x

I see Zevran's DA2 face in my nightmares.

Righttt?
As much as I like him, but that elf got wacked with the ugly stick waaaay to many times in DA:2.


Not to bash him or anything...

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Righttt?
As much as I like him, but that elf got wacked with the ugly stick waaaay to many times in DA:2.


Not to bash him or anything...

not only zevran is ugly he looks good compared to the other elves, huon, orana or the blind keeper, etc,,.. there are much more ugly elves in da2, of course dao had some too, but not as much as da2 did, i got the feeling from what i had seen in da2 about the elves that bioware was just to lazy to redesign them (putting all the effort in the qunari) and then making them just ugly because it was easier then redesigning them and then they (as if it wasnt enough) called them even "distinctive"

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Merrill looked hotter in DA2. So did Isabela and Flemeth. But Teagan, Alistair and Zevran did not.

Coincidence? Or conspiracy?

Modifié par thats1evildude, 03 janvier 2012 - 09:51 .


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What I REALLY wanna see, is what Sten would look like with those horns.


A sight we will never see, unfortunately. Even though the Qunari in DA2 have horns, if you got the Black Emporium DLC, it talks about how Sten was born without horns and looks human, hence his role as an envoy to non-Kossith lands.