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[Leonia]

didymos1120 wrote...

Oh, yeah, BTW: as if it weren't established by dev statements before, this makes it crystal clear that even if you don't play Arrival, Shep blew up that system.

But why make it optional that content should have been with the core game, I hate spending money on DLC, EA is so eviiiiiil!

[Dhiro]

didymos1120 wrote...

Oh, yeah, BTW: as if it weren't established by dev statements before, this makes it crystal clear that even if you don't play Arrival, Shep blew up that system.

I wonder if that means I won't need to bring myself to play Arrival again. The DLC was only okay and I can't find motivation to replay it.

[didymos1120]

Dhiro wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Oh, yeah, BTW: as if it weren't established by dev statements before, this makes it crystal clear that even if you don't play Arrival, Shep blew up that system.

I wonder if that means I won't need to bring myself to play Arrival again. The DLC was only okay and I can't find motivation to replay it.

Sure, why not?  Even though Shep still blew the relay, it's supposed to be handled a bit differently in ME3 for those who didn't play it.  May as well see what the difference is.

[Someone With Mass]

Why does it look like he has car tire tracks tattooed on his arms and neck?

[didymos1120]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Why does it look like he has car tire tracks tattooed on his arms and neck?

It's a Dark Horse ME comic?  Or Bioware really did come up with horrible tattoo design.

[marshalleck]

Dude, tribal tattoos and fauxhawks are totally in fashion with all the cool kids these days, I don't know what you're talking about

[CroGamer002]

didymos1120 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Why does it look like he has car tire tracks tattooed on his arms and neck?

It's a Dark Horse ME comic?  Or Bioware really did come up with horrible tattoo design.

I vote Dark Horse.

[CroGamer002]

marshalleck wrote...

Dude, tribal tattoos and fauxhawks are totally in fashion with all the cool kids these days, I don't know what you're talking about

Only that those cool kids are US Marines.

[Someone With Mass]

didymos1120 wrote...

It's a Dark Horse ME comic?  Or Bioware really did come up with horrible tattoo design.

Looks better in-game.

[WOLF_00]

Thanks op

Fun thing to see a lot of beaten Baterians, but how Shepard end up as a Prisoner and why are they take him onboard that ship?
I thought Shepard will travel for Earth andl surround by his will to the Alliance. There is major spoiler in the comic.

[Candidate 88766]

I thought that wasn't bad compared to the other comics.

Things to note:
-Shepard is an Alliance prisoner just days after the events of Arrival (proving that canonically it occurs after the SM). ME3 starts several months after Arrival, so Shepard is going to have been a prisoner for a while.
-Shepard is being viewed as a terrorist, so its going to be much harder, at least initially, for Shepard to gain allies.
-It seems Vega's role on the Normandy will be either to keep an eye on Shepard or to protect Shepard.
-Vega seems to have (perhaps only temporarily) quit the Alliance following some event, presumably his team dying due to his actions (can't really back that up, but this tends to be the case when a soldier in a story starts drinking their life away. Either that or he accidentally killed a civilian or something).

[didymos1120]

WOLF_00 wrote...

There is major spoiler in the comic.

No, that's called "information revealed in the comic". It hasn't changed a thing as far as ME3 goes: Shep is going on trial on Earth for blowing up the relay, along with 300,000 batarians, which they've been saying for months.

[Candidate 88766]

didymos1120 wrote...

WOLF_00 wrote...

There is major spoiler in the comic.

No, that's called "information revealed in the comic". It hasn't changed a thing as far as ME3 goes: Shep is going on trial on Earth for blowing up the relay, along with 300,000 batarians, which they've been saying for months.

Well, some people might think it a spoiler that Shepard is both being imprisoned by the Alliance and is being viewed as a terrorist. I already guessed both of these would happen so I'm not fussed, but some people might see that as a spoiler. Not that major, but a spoiler nonetheless.

[Saber Wolf]

The new comic sure is awesome!

[Someone With Mass]

Candidate 88766 wrote...
Well, some people might think it a spoiler that Shepard is both being imprisoned by the Alliance and is being viewed as a terrorist. I already guessed both of these would happen so I'm not fussed, but some people might see that as a spoiler. Not that major, but a spoiler nonetheless.

The Alliance planned to arrest Shepard long before the events in Arrival.

I even saw a theory not long ago that Vega was going to be introduced as Shepard's guard during the trial.

Looks like the person who guessed that can giggle him/herself to sleep forever.

[CroGamer002]

Candidate 88766 wrote...

I thought that wasn't bad compared to the other comics.

Things to note:
-Shepard is an Alliance prisoner just days after the events of Arrival (proving that canonically it occurs after the SM). ME3 starts several months after Arrival, so Shepard is going to have been a prisoner for a while.

Another thing that confirms canon timeline.

Though Mac Walters killed 2nd Vanguard theory.

-Shepard is being viewed as a terrorist, so its going to be much harder, at least initially, for Shepard to gain allies.

Or at least with Batarians.
I mean, Shepard's reason for blowing up Alpha Relay is do to Reapers.

And then Reapers showed up.
I think some people will forget Shepard for that.

-It seems Vega's role on the Normandy will be either to keep an eye on Shepard or to protect Shepard.

It's obvious to protect Shepard from Batarian Hegemony and Cerberus.

-Vega seems to have (perhaps only temporarily) quit the Alliance following some event, presumably his team dying due to his actions (can't really back that up, but this tends to be the case when a soldier in a story starts drinking their life away. Either that or he accidentally killed a civilian or something).

Maybe he's either on leave or suspended( though, I don't know can you be suspended in military).

[didymos1120]

Candidate 88766 wrote...

Well, some people might think it a spoiler that Shepard is both being imprisoned by the Alliance and is being viewed as a terrorist. I already guessed both of these would happen so I'm not fussed, but some people might see that as a spoiler. Not that major, but a spoiler nonetheless.

Well, the fundamental distinction here is that it's part of the comic's story.  By definition, it isn't an ME3 spoiler (as if the information was somehow supposed to be exclusive to ME3).  This is like saying that it was a spoiler for ME2 to find out that Liara was involved in recovering the Shepcorpse and handing it over to Cerberus.  No, that was just part of Redemption's plot. And similarly misaimed complaints could be made about Revelation, because it "spoiled" the Saren/Anderson backstory.

Modifié par didymos1120, 17 septembre 2011 - 09:47 .

[didymos1120]

Mesina2 wrote...
Maybe he's either on leave or suspended( though, I don't know can you be suspended in military).

You can be suspended from duty pending an investigation.

[TobyHasEyes]

Total Biscuit wrote...

I'm surprised by how many people are admiring Vegas thuggish behaviour here.

I mean let's not forget that while we, the players know Shepard had a damn good reason to blow the Alpha Relay, everyone in universe, bar a handful that have heard Shepards side, just know an enormous atrocity was committed against what were almost entirely civilians.

What Vega did was the equivalent of a man of very obvious Arab descent vandalising a bars TV during a news report talking about 9/11, a matter of days after it happened, because it vilified Osama Bin Laden. And doing so infront of a group he knew to be made up largely of Americans, who'd been happy enough to peacefully play cards with him moments before hand.

Again, we know Shepards, well, not innocent as such, but didn't deliberately just kill those people, but no one else does.

Between the enourmous amount of insensitivity to a bunch of otherwise friendly enough people, and apparent inability to understand the concept of an off switch, I'm assumimg Vega is special forces, more for the other meaning of 'special'.

 He does seem to have no self control, just flies off the handle, but then again all the characters turn a bit 'hardcore' in the comics

 Cause you are right, the Batarians peacefully play the card game with the guy, who is wearing an Alliance top, so they are clearly not bigoted or anything; maybe if we hear more about that mission that appears to have gone badly wrong for Vega, then that could make his character more understandable

[Leonia]

Candidate 88766 wrote...

I thought that wasn't bad compared to the other comics.

Things to note:
-Shepard is an Alliance prisoner just days after the events of Arrival (proving that canonically it occurs after the SM). ME3 starts several months after Arrival, so Shepard is going to have been a prisoner for a while.
-Shepard is being viewed as a terrorist, so its going to be much harder, at least initially, for Shepard to gain allies.
-It seems Vega's role on the Normandy will be either to keep an eye on Shepard or to protect Shepard.
-Vega seems to have (perhaps only temporarily) quit the Alliance following some event, presumably his team dying due to his actions (can't really back that up, but this tends to be the case when a soldier in a story starts drinking their life away. Either that or he accidentally killed a civilian or something).

Who would he be protecting Shepard from?

If this is indeed right after Arrival (how did the batarians know Shepard was involved so soon?), where are Shepard's squad-mates and why is Anderson directly involved with this given the ending of Retribution?

Why is Vega in particular needed to watch over Shepard?

EDIT: Thinking about it some more, a lot of people would be trying to get their hands on Shepard (Cerberus, the Hegemony, maybe even the Council) so he/she probably does need a rather attentive Warden figure but there's a whole ship and the brig for anyone to get through so it just stood out that Vega needs to be personally involved.

Modifié par leonia42, 17 septembre 2011 - 10:45 .

[didymos1120]

leonia42 wrote...

If this is indeed right after Arrival (how did the batarians know Shepard was involved so soon?)

Most likely, he/she got IDed during the Kenson breakout, and this info was reported during the two days of unconsciousness. After the system blew up, they added two and two. Or the Citadel/Alliance just said "Wasn't us! It was Shepard! And we're doing something about it. Srsly." 

[Leonia]

There's also the possibility that whoever was on the other shuttle that escaped the Project may have reported Shepard's involvement. The ending to Arrival sort of left me with the impression that it might be awhile before Earth came calling but I guess I can accept things happening a bit faster than Hackett anticipated.

Modifié par leonia42, 17 septembre 2011 - 10:54 .