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[Weskerr]

KainrycKarr wrote...

Anyone else, upon seeing Vega as Shepard's "guard" now want to see Shepard kick the snot out of him?

No. If anything, Anderson purposely chose Vega as Shepard's guard for two reasons:

1. Vega supports Shepard

2. Vega is a good, tough soldier who can defend Shepard from attacks just as well as he can prevent Shepard from escaping.

Also, the fact that Anderson, an Alliance admiral, is personally overseeing Shepard's arrest and transfer to court implies that he volunteered to do it. Top-ranking officers are hardly personally responsible for arrest and guard-duty. It is also known that he is an adamant supporter of Shepard even when Shepard is working for Cerberus. He wants to make Shepard's trip to court as comfortable, safe, and non-confrontational as possible.

Modifié par Weskerr, 19 septembre 2011 - 04:35 .

[Weskerr]

Mesina2 wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

I'm 100% with AJK on this one. Anderson most likely had a squad of his own and infiltrated the Normandy breach-and-clear style. It's the only surefire way to capture Shepard before it's too late.

You mean some Alliance squad get into the stealth ship in Terminus System with very possible full crew and one of the most elite squad in galaxy and just like that captured Shepard with no casualties from both sides?

What will most likely be the explanation for the Alliance's arrest of Shepard is that they sent him a message that he was under arrest and to turn himself over to them peacefully and he did.

[Confused-Shepard]

Mesina2 wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

I'm 100% with AJK on this one. Anderson most likely had a squad of his own and infiltrated the Normandy breach-and-clear style. It's the only surefire way to capture Shepard before it's too late.

You mean some Alliance squad get into the stealth ship in Terminus System with very possible full crew and one of the most elite squad in galaxy and just like that captured Shepard with no casualties from both sides?

That or Shepard decided to play along and come quitely but not before breaking the boarding party in half
Hell my Shepard goes the extra mile and leaves an autographed picture stating, "To my most loyal fans" 
My Shjepard would be furious that the Alliance even dared to attempt such a thing. Escpecialy after the converastion with Hackett. 

[Fiery Phoenix]

Mesina2 wrote...
You mean some Alliance squad get into the stealth ship in Terminus System

Assumption. After Arrival, the Normandy is transferred to the Solar System.

with very possible full crew and one of the most elite squad in galaxy

Breach-and-clear doesn't necessarily mean shooting everyone on sight. If they're caught off-guard and Shepard is captured quickly enough, you'd expect everyone on the team to just give up and do as Shepard says. 

and just like that captured Shepard with no casualties from both sides?

Same as above.

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 19 septembre 2011 - 04:42 .

[CroGamer002]

^And how did they even get on Normandy without EDI noticing?

[Fiery Phoenix]

Mesina2 wrote...

^And how did they even get on Normandy without EDI noticing?

LOL, how should I know? Literally hundreds of ways this could play out.

I'm just saying this is a very likely scenario if Shepard decides it's not a good idea to turn herself in or something. How it could happen is anyone's guess.

[CroGamer002]

My explanation is that Shepard contact with Anderson to get arrested on some safe location so that his/hers crew doesn't get implicated( also most of them are part of Cerberus, Legion would not be welcomed and Kasumi might have a greybox that puts Alliance in danger) and left Normandy on that secure location and only Joker stayed.

Also Anderson gets the opportunity to get Vega as trustworthy Shep's bodyguard before going to Earth.

[Recon Member]

Alliance infilrtating Normandy? That's ludicrous. Shepard turns himself in, just as he said he would.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Thekill_3 wrote...

Alliance infilrtating Normandy? That's ludicrous. Shepard turns himself in, just as he said he would.

Yup, that's really probably what happens.

[CroGamer002]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

^And how did they even get on Normandy without EDI noticing?

LOL, how should I know? Literally hundreds of ways this could play out.

I'm just saying this is a very likely scenario if Shepard decides it's not a good idea to turn herself in or something. How it could happen is anyone's guess.

See what I wrote now.


And there are only 5 places they can breach.

Airlock just near Joker, hangar, windows in Samara's and Kasumi's room and Captain's Quarters.

In all 5 places they can be easily detected by EDI and alert everyone in just moments.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Mesina, you bring a good point and I don't disagree with you. However, I still think you're making some assumptions, when the whole scenario could happen and work out in any number of ways with or without EDI's involvement.

[CroGamer002]

^It can not happen on Normandy, that's for sure.
Unless EDI get's stupid.

Also, Anderson trusts Shepard, while Shepard is not stupid to let Alliance get into the war with Batarian Hegemony while Reapers are in galaxy.

Also, if this took in Sol System, how the hell Anderson can explain doing that LONG detour?


Now, my theory is just an assumption.
I just find Shepard getting captured on Normandy with no casualties from both sides not realistic.

Modifié par Mesina2, 19 septembre 2011 - 05:10 .

[AngusJimiKeith]

Mesina2 wrote...

^It can not happen on Normandy, that's for sure.
Unless EDI get's stupid.

Also, Anderson trusts Shepard, while Shepard is not stupid to let Alliance get into the war with Batarian Hegemony while Reapers are in galaxy.

Also, if this took in Sol System, how the hell Anderson can explain doing that LONG detour?


Now, my theory is just an assumption.
I just find Shepard getting captured on Normandy with no casualties from both sides not realistic.

Ok, let's see.

As per NORMAL OPERATION, Normandy's stealth systems are off.

EDI: "Shepard, I am detecting an approaching ship. Ladar paints it as the SSV Ain Jalut. Admiral Anderson is on board and requests to dock with the Normandy."

Shep: "Anderson? What is he doing here? Let them in, EDI."

Anderson steps into the airlock with his squad on the Ain Jalut side, breaches/hacks open Normandy side, squad equipped with less than lethal tech (neural shock?). Done deal.

*ain jalut is the only alliance ship I know off the top off my head, plus it is also stealth (normandy class), which makes the scenario even more plausable. It is possible.

You bring up several good points, but there is always a backdoor around something. I just don't see why the Normandy would be under Anderson but still in Cerberus colors otherwise. A takeover had to happen. Also, I never said no casualties. Casualties are possible, but Shepard, Joker, etc. will be convieniently missed.

[CroGamer002]

AngusJimiKeith wrote...

Ok, let's see.

As per NORMAL OPERATION, Normandy's stealth systems are off.

EDI: "Shepard, I am detecting an approaching ship. Ladar paints it as the SSV Ain Jalut. Admiral Anderson is on board and requests to dock with the Normandy."

Shep: "Anderson? What is he doing here? Let them in, EDI."

Anderson steps into the airlock with his squad on the Ain Jalut side, breaches/hacks open Normandy side, squad equipped with less than lethal tech (neural shock?). Done deal.

*ain jalut is the only alliance ship I know off the top off my head, plus it is also stealth (normandy class), which makes the scenario even more plausable. It is possible.

Though that doesn't explain how would they also get the Normandy.

Some squadmates would be on that level, take the gun and shoot at Anderson and his team.
Also Cerberus crew can have at least a sidearm on them.


Also, that's with Shepard meeting Anderson near airlock.

Shepard could have wait for Anderson near galaxy map or in Captain's Cabin.

You bring up several good points, but there is always a backdoor around something. I just don't see why the Normandy would be under Anderson but still in Cerberus colors otherwise.

Because Anderson isn't carying paint with him?

Alliance is the one that makes changes on Normandy, not Anderson.
And since Shepard is still in Normandy and not in jail, Anderson still haven't bring Normandy to Alliance.

A takeover had to happen. Also, I never said no casualties. Casualties are possible, but Shepard, Joker, etc. will be convieniently missed.

Off-screen deaths are cheap and stupid.

Modifié par Mesina2, 19 septembre 2011 - 05:43 .

[LOLandStuff]

Even the most renegade Shepard knows that the safest place for him/her after what happened in Arrival is with the Alliance. And it's not like the Reapers aren't coming for him/her to decide to retire in some cave where no one will find him/her and wait until everyone forgets about Arrival.
Sooner or later it wouldn't matter what Shepard did once the Reapers storm in and the galaxy is in chaos. Turning him/herself in is the only option. Well, perhaps wasting some time here and there wouldn't hurt either but not run away and get jumped by Alliance while everyone is asleep just because you refuse capture.

[LOLandStuff]

Mesina2 wrote...

You bring up several good points, but there is always a backdoor around something. I just don't see why the Normandy would be under Anderson but still in Cerberus colors otherwise.

Because Anderson isn't carying paint with him?

Alliance is the one that makes changes on Normandy, not Anderson.
And since Shepard is still in Normandy and not in jail, Anderson still haven't bring Normandy to Alliance.

See how simple it is to change it? They just needed some blue spray cans and voila.

[Izhalezan]

LOLandStuff wrote...


See how simple it is to change it? They just needed some blue spray cans and voila.

Needs "Suck it Cerberus!" on the side.

[CroGamer002]

lol

Even though that would be awesome, it's unlikely.
Besides, it was explicitly said Alliance is changing Normandy.

[Confused-Shepard]

Why can't we have cool, confident, snarky, suave male character (Think Gambit from X-Men or The Flash from DC Comics) instead of bland (Jacob), uber serious (Kaidan) or Angsty Mc RoidRage (Vega) with a slight psychotic streak.

[CroGamer002]

Confused-Shepard wrote...

Why can't we have cool, confident, snarky, suave male character (Think Gambit from X-Men or The Flash from DC Comics) instead of bland (Jacob), uber serious (Kaidan) or Angsty Mc RoidRage (Vega) with a slight psychotic streak.

Eh, he's not that.

[Confused-Shepard]

Mesina2 wrote...

Confused-Shepard wrote...

Why can't we have cool, confident, snarky, suave male character (Think Gambit from X-Men or The Flash from DC Comics) instead of bland (Jacob), uber serious (Kaidan) or Angsty Mc RoidRage (Vega) with a slight psychotic streak.

Eh, he's not that.

Exaggeration but I can tell he won't exactly be joyful or have any charm
He'll be straight, by the book and wanting to do the right thing. 
Patriotic and dutiful. Respectful and honorable. 

And that's boring...

[wolf99000]

Confused-Shepard wrote...

Why can't we have cool, confident, snarky, suave male character (Think Gambit from X-Men or The Flash from DC Comics) instead of bland (Jacob), uber serious (Kaidan) or Angsty Mc RoidRage (Vega) with a slight psychotic streak.

now a gambit like squadmate would be good always liked gambit in the cartoon in the 1990s

[psiasterisk]

Nice comic. Lends itself to recaptioning (thx to the OPs of that thread, btw.).

I only find it really odd that Vega would react this annoyed at the tv. Since he wasn´t part of "Arrival", he would have no knowledge of the fact that Shepard narrowly stopped the reapers, or of their existence even. What´s his stake?

Also, it has been pointed out before, that ship, the "Normandy", isn´t the one from ME2, but the one from ME1. What do you people think? Did the artist just make a mistake or was that on purpose? And, if it´s the latter, what are the implications?

~edit~ typo

Modifié par psiasterisk, 19 septembre 2011 - 07:59 .

[Halfdan The Menace]

I would lol'd if the Raloi have Latino accent!!


Asari/Turian/Salarian = American, Canadian
Quarian = European
Batarian = not sure
Volus = some midgets

Modifié par ModestmeNTaLmogul, 19 septembre 2011 - 08:24 .

[KBomb]

Confused-Shepard wrote...


Exaggeration but I can tell he won't exactly be joyful or have any charm
He'll be straight, by the book and wanting to do the right thing. 
Patriotic and dutiful. Respectful and honorable. 

And that's boring...

You can tell that just by the handful of textual dialogue presented? Wow. Just….wow.