Look fact of the matter is this fight is WAY harder on the consoles, if only for the fact that you can't kite with the Bronto (he can't be controlled on the console). I have a level 23 mage AW/SH. I have beaten the flesh golem part, saved the killswitch for part 2, thrown it and had all my guys vs just the little harvester and I thought I finally had it. Then he summoned more skeletons and in under 8 seconds they tore everyone to shreds. These little freaks tear through Brodan like butter. Furthermore, I can't find any videos of someone doing this fight on nightmare, console, and under level 30. Please, can anyone out there help a desperate gamer out!?
Can ANYONE beat Golems of Amgarrak on nightmare on the console version without a level 30+ import?
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Posté 17 septembre 2011 - 02:41
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You must not have played through Awakening before doing Golems of Amgarrak. I highly recommend you do a run through Awakening first and foremost, then do Golems later.
Also, take two Manuals of Focus with you when you import from Awakening. You can respec Jerrik and Brogan with them, which will make things much, much easier for you. You might also want to bring some top-of-the-line equipment for them, as well - the equipment they start with is kinda rubbish.
If all else fails, just drop the difficulty to Hard. You can still unlock the achievement that way - assuming that's what you're aiming for. Correct me if I'm mistaken in that assumption.
Also, take two Manuals of Focus with you when you import from Awakening. You can respec Jerrik and Brogan with them, which will make things much, much easier for you. You might also want to bring some top-of-the-line equipment for them, as well - the equipment they start with is kinda rubbish.
If all else fails, just drop the difficulty to Hard. You can still unlock the achievement that way - assuming that's what you're aiming for. Correct me if I'm mistaken in that assumption.
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Posté 17 septembre 2011 - 03:00
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Honestly, this is personal. I always try to set difficult goals for myself. For example, my last playthrough was nightmare no poultices, no army help in denerem. But now I just think I may have bit off more than I can chew. If anyone has done this, it would give me closure to know it is possible. There are plenty of success stories of people doing the non import nightmare challenge, but they are all PC stories using strategies that are impossible to reproduce on the console. I just want to know this is possible before going back and attempting this again. If I really must, I'll play through awakenings but I'd hate to feel like the harvester has won this round.
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Posté 17 septembre 2011 - 03:27
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I've only ever played the console version of Dragon Age, so I only know what worked for me - a run through Awakening, two Manuals of Focus, and a good equipment setup for my party were essential for me (and even then, the skeletons still managed to annihilate me a few times).
The Harvester is no joke. It's without a doubt the hardest boss battle across the main game and all of its DLCs. I would seriously concede to the Harvester for the moment and come back another time better prepared.
The Harvester is no joke. It's without a doubt the hardest boss battle across the main game and all of its DLCs. I would seriously concede to the Harvester for the moment and come back another time better prepared.
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Posté 17 septembre 2011 - 11:26
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dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Harvester_%28strategy%29
Ive beat him solo on Nightmare and contributed to this guide.
Ive beat him solo on Nightmare and contributed to this guide.
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Posté 17 septembre 2011 - 05:39
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I've only played on PC, but I did beat him on nightmare with a Spirit healer/Arcane Warrior/Battle mage combo. You definitely need also, like others have pointed out, to take a bunch of good gear from Awakening with you into GoA to equip jerrik and brogan, as their default equipment sucks.
I've only beat it on Nightmare with a mage. I suppose its possible with another class, but very difficult, since other than the golem, no one else casts spells.
One thing that has helped out alot is traps. Mainly, have someone in Awakening craft for you the following traps:
Gravity trap
Elemental trap
Misdirection cloud trap
Fire trap
Have Jerrik lay them around the two bridges, where all the undead spawn later. When they spawn, they will set off the traps, get damaged, and with the gravity trap, unable to get far. This is a useful limited form of crowd control when you don't have a mage (or even when you do). The traps will at least occupy the undead while you deal with the harvester.
I've only beat it on Nightmare with a mage. I suppose its possible with another class, but very difficult, since other than the golem, no one else casts spells.
One thing that has helped out alot is traps. Mainly, have someone in Awakening craft for you the following traps:
Gravity trap
Elemental trap
Misdirection cloud trap
Fire trap
Have Jerrik lay them around the two bridges, where all the undead spawn later. When they spawn, they will set off the traps, get damaged, and with the gravity trap, unable to get far. This is a useful limited form of crowd control when you don't have a mage (or even when you do). The traps will at least occupy the undead while you deal with the harvester.
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Posté 17 septembre 2011 - 10:55
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Last Darkness wrote...
dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Harvester_%28strategy%29
Ive beat him solo on Nightmare and contributed to this guide.
I was actually very dissapointed in this guide because it really only told me what the fight was and not really how to beat it. The few tactics described on it all involve assuming that either A: I played through Awakening or B: I'm playing on PC.
But I finally ended up beating the little F***er. The allies you have are useless unless you give them good gear or can respec them or control Bronto individually. I had none of these at my disposal so I just soloed the fight with my AW/SH. Here's what I did:
I let those useless losers help me whittle the flesh golem phase down until they were quickly wiped out. then I ran around the room until i could flip the switch then I'd mess him up with a glitch I found on PS3 where casting both the walking bomb spells causes the game to do a double check on lasting damage effects then hit him with a stinging swarm and a burn. Did about 94 damage a second.
On the second phase I equiped the Heirsplitter because the Harvester's magic defense in this form is insane! Probably something that that guide should mention. Once more skeletons came I ran around and mind blasted whenever I could to get a few hits on the Harvester before the corpses tore me to shreds. Luckily, I had all of Cailan's gear except the helm in my inventory at the end of the game and all those poultices I ended up not needing for the Archdemon. It took a while, but eventually I won
hopefully this gives some other challenge seeker some hope.
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Posté 18 septembre 2011 - 06:58
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OPMAGE wrote...
Last Darkness wrote...
dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Harvester_%28strategy%29
Ive beat him solo on Nightmare and contributed to this guide.
I was actually very dissapointed in this guide because it really only told me what the fight was and not really how to beat it. The few tactics described on it all involve assuming that either A: I played through Awakening or B: I'm playing on PC.
But I finally ended up beating the little F***er. The allies you have are useless unless you give them good gear or can respec them or control Bronto individually. I had none of these at my disposal so I just soloed the fight with my AW/SH. Here's what I did:
I let those useless losers help me whittle the flesh golem phase down until they were quickly wiped out. then I ran around the room until i could flip the switch then I'd mess him up with a glitch I found on PS3 where casting both the walking bomb spells causes the game to do a double check on lasting damage effects then hit him with a stinging swarm and a burn. Did about 94 damage a second.
On the second phase I equiped the Heirsplitter because the Harvester's magic defense in this form is insane! Probably something that that guide should mention. Once more skeletons came I ran around and mind blasted whenever I could to get a few hits on the Harvester before the corpses tore me to shreds. Luckily, I had all of Cailan's gear except the helm in my inventory at the end of the game and all those poultices I ended up not needing for the Archdemon. It took a while, but eventually I won
Knowing what to expect and prepartion I think are very important things to know for that fight.
If you youtube search you can also find alot of videos for the lvl 20 challenge, which is create and new level 20 character in golems and playthrough on Nightmare mode and complete it. That should help alot of the people who are lower level for some ways to do this DLC.
I cannot stress enough though that you should play Golems after Awakening though because of the chronological save flag order. Plus of course the talents and gear advantages.
Want some extra challenge try it solo
its quite rewarding when he dies on solo Nightmare this way.
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Posté 21 septembre 2011 - 03:00
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The videos of the lvl 20 challenge are all PC 
. Well at least I beat it without awakenings, and solo too 
Thanks peoples!
. Well at least I beat it without awakenings, and solo too Thanks peoples!
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Posté 22 septembre 2011 - 08:21
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I just tried the 4th time on hard with an AW/SH/battlemage. Problem is, I never used armor on her, though I do have the arcane warrior blade.
She went in at level 34, with the respec books (absolutely necessary) but I didn't have extra equip for Jarrick and brother, so I still ended up watching them die and holding my own for a while. But I should have had different spells (some) like that stinging swarm would have been good.
I would bring more armor for the others next time. MAybe blackblade armor.
I usually bring a whole bunch of bombs too, I had 3 of those "safe" explosives, a bunch of soulrot bombs, fire bombs and a host of poisons. I've gotten 1/2 way through 2nd level of the fight before being wiped. I think my AW needs armor. But I so love the extra magic stats she gets from those robes...
This is a tough fight. I wonder if haste would help? Would it work against a rogue using frenzy? I think I'll watch a video and then try tomorrow again.
Been a while since such a challenge. I'm here looking for strategies too...so anything anyone can toss out. I love the traps idea.
She went in at level 34, with the respec books (absolutely necessary) but I didn't have extra equip for Jarrick and brother, so I still ended up watching them die and holding my own for a while. But I should have had different spells (some) like that stinging swarm would have been good.
I would bring more armor for the others next time. MAybe blackblade armor.
I usually bring a whole bunch of bombs too, I had 3 of those "safe" explosives, a bunch of soulrot bombs, fire bombs and a host of poisons. I've gotten 1/2 way through 2nd level of the fight before being wiped. I think my AW needs armor. But I so love the extra magic stats she gets from those robes...
This is a tough fight. I wonder if haste would help? Would it work against a rogue using frenzy? I think I'll watch a video and then try tomorrow again.
Been a while since such a challenge. I'm here looking for strategies too...so anything anyone can toss out. I love the traps idea.
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Posté 22 septembre 2011 - 02:12
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Aoe damage focused mages can have a easier time there.
You would be amazed at a hardcore primal mages damage and utility there.
You would be amazed at a hardcore primal mages damage and utility there.
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Posté 24 septembre 2011 - 04:48
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None of the companions you get are necessary. They are generally useful for meatshields and getting in the way of the orange skeletons (which are the real threat), but I don't even bother giving them gear or respecing them.
(I do think it is a good idea to NOT have the Golem attack and just set its tactics to heal).
The key is to ignore the skeletons and just go after Harvey. As a rogue, I found the "speed" pots (I forget their real name) invaluable for chasing down the mini-Harv, kiting the boss skeletons which will kill your ridiculously high dex warden in a matter of seconds, and a huge DPS boost.
As a spirit warrior, it's possible to get your dodge bonus high enough that even the boss skeletons will miss 95% of the time so you can just sit there and whack at mini-Harv as a dozen skeletons swing and miss (I do clear them out occasionally with a two handed sweep and bomb since they get in the way). This is somewhat boring though as the fight becomes a grind since IIRC, mini-Harv's resists a lot of your spirit damage.
(I do think it is a good idea to NOT have the Golem attack and just set its tactics to heal).
The key is to ignore the skeletons and just go after Harvey. As a rogue, I found the "speed" pots (I forget their real name) invaluable for chasing down the mini-Harv, kiting the boss skeletons which will kill your ridiculously high dex warden in a matter of seconds, and a huge DPS boost.
As a spirit warrior, it's possible to get your dodge bonus high enough that even the boss skeletons will miss 95% of the time so you can just sit there and whack at mini-Harv as a dozen skeletons swing and miss (I do clear them out occasionally with a two handed sweep and bomb since they get in the way). This is somewhat boring though as the fight becomes a grind since IIRC, mini-Harv's resists a lot of your spirit damage.
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Posté 26 septembre 2011 - 11:22
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I finished awakenings the other day and was sooooooo disappointed. After the grueling difficulty of this fight Awakenings even solo on nightmare was a joke. I basically did easier fights with a warden that leveled into invincibility. I dont have evon the greats mail or andruil's blessing and still my arcane warrior was literally impossible to take down with a mana recovery rate of 13, a dmage output of 100 per hit and draining aura+hand of nature throwing out an extra 90 or so per second and throwing out the occasional 500 from a thornblades natures vengeance combo. I would actually gain health and kill a childer as it used overwhelm on me 
ah well, it seems that Harvey (i like that) remains my greatest nemesis.
ah well, it seems that Harvey (i like that) remains my greatest nemesis.
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Posté 30 septembre 2011 - 05:09
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I did it with a DW rogue with the Legionnaire Scout specialization and thousands of health potions of all sizes, but I died at least 100 times and had a tough time to beat this creature.
The battles in Golems of Amarrak are quite challenging, and I remember this one as the most difficult in the whole Dragon Age series.
The battles in Golems of Amarrak are quite challenging, and I remember this one as the most difficult in the whole Dragon Age series.
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Posté 01 janvier 2012 - 05:47
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DAO on the PS3 - I was reading through the posts and am curious. Most ppl on here say get and play Awakening before doing Golems on hard or nightmare. Kinda odd that, Why bother having the stuff on the origins part if it can't be gotten?!?!? ALSO I think it sux that you get all these cool new skills and abilities and none of them goto Origins. I actually really got into the new stuff and was looking forward to messing with the how thing. Oh I was told to try the cheat of duplicating items. Tried it once, but that thing never worked on anything but books for me. And that caused a whole other set of problems on leveling up.
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Posté 02 janvier 2012 - 02:24
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I've done it myself with my character from DA:A. Still had my other companions die but I ran around and took pot shots at the crawler thingy after destroying the main body. Eventually killed him.
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Posté 04 janvier 2012 - 05:54
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Hard Fight GoA Walkthrough for non-imported charaters. GoA is a lot easier if you either make a brand new non-import for it or remake your character a little before you import. The enemies all have seriously annoying immunities that will negate many abilities used by most standard campaign builds.
BTW, GoA was the first thing I did with DA:O. I've never played any Bioware game on anything but maximum difficulty. I was pleasantly surprised that I actually had to reload a couple times before beating it. That's not normal for Bioware.
I'd recomend that anyone that likes a moderate challenge do all the DLCs first before any campaign just so you can actually reap the benefits of having completed them; most will give you some very nice items for all subsequent campaign runs. The stories will be slightly non-linear, but they still work just fine and don't spoil things at all.
BTW, GoA was the first thing I did with DA:O. I've never played any Bioware game on anything but maximum difficulty. I was pleasantly surprised that I actually had to reload a couple times before beating it. That's not normal for Bioware.
I'd recomend that anyone that likes a moderate challenge do all the DLCs first before any campaign just so you can actually reap the benefits of having completed them; most will give you some very nice items for all subsequent campaign runs. The stories will be slightly non-linear, but they still work just fine and don't spoil things at all.
