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[Omega4RelayResident]

Lenimph wrote...

Xeranx wrote...


And that's when you outsource.

Dear Maker... that's the real reason Bioware teamed up with Funimation and Kotobukiya

Oh god... not ME Hentai style... thats just too much for any person to bear...



Please BioWare staff... DO NOT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN!

[PMC65]

In going back and looking at that "romance" scene with my Shepard and love interest in mind ... I wouldn't mind that kind of scene. Much, much better than the "touch Liara on back, black eyes ..." CUT.

This game is violent with a new way to "kill" your opponents with a neat omni-tool blade and people all of a sudden get squeamish about how much of the intimacy between characters should be shown?



But whatever Bioware has planned is already set in stone so if we get more ME2/LotSB kind of "romance pay-off" then so be it.

[Lenimph]

Omega4RelayResident wrote...


Oh god... not ME Hentai style... thats just too much for any person to bear...

*snip*

Please BioWare staff... DO NOT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN!

"YAMETE BLASTO-SAMA! YAMETE!"

[billy the squid]

As I said before, I think that the ME1 scenes were good, tastefully done and I don't see that ME should copy any other game in it approach to romances. It wouldn't be a bad game if it had scenes more like ME2, as I don't particularly play games just for that, if its done well its something extra.

[UrsulaCousland]

mynameisdanza wrote...

Bioware's romances trump anything else out there. You're just talking about the sex scenes...

I would rather have an excellent romance hitting the right emotional notes. I'm fully capable of managing my own trip to the gutter district. 

Seriously, quality trumps skin at least IMO, and the DA:O romance scenes...*ugh*...

[Dragoonlordz]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

mousestalker wrote...

In all of the Witcher 1 & 2 relationships is there any emotional risk to the hero?

If I understand you correctly, yes.
TW1 romance is tied to a choice dilema, where imo the rational choice is pretty obvious but it might jeapordize the relationship with one of the romances.

In TW2, there is also a choice at the end, of either saving her or doing something else. Ultimately she is saved anyways, but Geralt of course doesn't know that would happen.

I picked Shani to have relationship with in TW1, invited the a hooker to party at Shani's and also gave her (Shani) the boy, Triss was far from impressed lol.. With regard to TW2 and saving her or not specifically about knowing she would be saved or not, I did know because saw some spoiler by mistake which is why I have never saved her. But had I not known beforehand I would of saved her instead out of choices simply because we have a past and rather world burns while taking chance on keeping them safe than friends and lovers die with no chance if already they dead.

If can form relationships in game especially one where body parts and death all around then should be mature enough to handle some flesh in a romance scene. If done well and not just some weird orgy of wriggling bodies on floor or dry humping each other then certainly if relationships in game that such a sexual act when performed is done with nudity and still remain classy. Which is not to say cover up incase someone isn't mature enough to handle flesh in a sexual act in a mature game which has been designed with LIs involved and spend rest of time killing people.

If your going to have vast quantity of blood, death and violence don't then put on kiddie gloves with regard to sex.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 17 septembre 2011 - 10:02 .

[AerisBru]

I don't like these almost-porn scenes and I didn't like the almost childish scenes in Dragon Age II and Mass Effect II.

Something in the middle would be perfect.

[Seagloom]

IronSabbath88 wrote...

This all seems like one long drawn out disagreement between various parties.

So, I wonder. If Bioware made the romance scenes more akin to ME2 level and not very intimate at all, but the gameplay was fantastic beyond words, couldn't find a thing wrong with it. Would it then be a bad game? Cause it sure seems like romance scenes are the be all, end all with this series and as much as I like the romances, they aren't ALL that's important.

I do not disagree. Gameplay is paramount, and if BioWare asked me if I wanted them to pay more attention to combat mechanics or their plot while leaving romances on the cutting room floor, I would tell them to go for it. It might turn out very well, even if it only applied to one game before they returned to their usual design.

That will never happen, though. All their AAA games from here on out are likely to incorporate romances. I rather they do the best job they can if that is the case.

[Omega4RelayResident]

UrsulaCousland wrote...

mynameisdanza wrote...

Bioware's romances trump anything else out there. You're just talking about the sex scenes...

I would rather have an excellent romance hitting the right emotional notes. I'm fully capable of managing my own trip to the gutter district. 

Seriously, quality trumps skin at least IMO, and the DA:O romance scenes...*ugh*...

Agreed quality trumps content

Modifié par Omega4RelayResident, 17 septembre 2011 - 10:12 .

[Omega4RelayResident]

Lenimph wrote...

Omega4RelayResident wrote...


Oh god... not ME Hentai style... thats just too much for any person to bear...

*snip*

Please BioWare staff... DO NOT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN!

"YAMETE BLASTO-SAMA! YAMETE!"

Context is needed... or a translation please

[PMC65]

Seagloom wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

This all seems like one long drawn out disagreement between various parties.

So, I wonder. If Bioware made the romance scenes more akin to ME2 level and not very intimate at all, but the gameplay was fantastic beyond words, couldn't find a thing wrong with it. Would it then be a bad game? Cause it sure seems like romance scenes are the be all, end all with this series and as much as I like the romances, they aren't ALL that's important.

I do not disagree. Gameplay is paramount, and if BioWare asked me if I wanted them to pay more attention to combat mechanics or their plot while leaving romances on the cutting room floor, I would tell them to go for it. It might turn out very well, even if it only applied to one game before they returned to their usual design.

That will never happen, though. All their AAA games from here on out are likely to incorporate romances. I rather they do the best job they can if that is the case.

And then Mass Effect would be just another "bang, bang, shoot em' up' next to Gears Of War type of game.

I OD'ed on DOOM / Wolfenstein and was finished with these types of games. What Mass Effect has done is given a reason to return with the love interests & friendships & story line. Take away that and leave combat .... I wouldn't have bought the game. But that is just me. I am probably in a minority on this. 

[KnightofPhoenix]

Omega4RelayResident wrote...

Agreed quality trumps content

Depends.

Romeo and Juliette is widely seen as a great romance (I am assuming), but it annoys me.
Marc Antony and Cleopatra is seen as great (I assume), but I was happy when these 2 idiots were killed.

I am not sure how one can determine the quality of a romance, it may be possible. But ultimately, what matters to me is whether I feel something or don't feel annoyed. If I don't feel anything, or feel annoyed, that that's not a romance I'd like.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 17 septembre 2011 - 10:17 .

[Omega4RelayResident]

PMC65 wrote...

Seagloom wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

This all seems like one long drawn out disagreement between various parties.

So, I wonder. If Bioware made the romance scenes more akin to ME2 level and not very intimate at all, but the gameplay was fantastic beyond words, couldn't find a thing wrong with it. Would it then be a bad game? Cause it sure seems like romance scenes are the be all, end all with this series and as much as I like the romances, they aren't ALL that's important.

I do not disagree. Gameplay is paramount, and if BioWare asked me if I wanted them to pay more attention to combat mechanics or their plot while leaving romances on the cutting room floor, I would tell them to go for it. It might turn out very well, even if it only applied to one game before they returned to their usual design.

That will never happen, though. All their AAA games from here on out are likely to incorporate romances. I rather they do the best job they can if that is the case.

And then Mass Effect would be just another "bang, bang, shoot em' up' next to Gears Of War type of game.

I OD'ed on DOOM / Wolfenstein and was finished with these types of games. What Mass Effect has done is given a reason to return with the love interests & friendships & story line. Take away that and leave combat .... I wouldn't have bought the game. But that is just me. I am probably in a minority on this. 

Yeah but you dont need Jenna Jameson to make an excelent story or connection. As a matter of fact porn has some of the worst writting and acting that ever existed.

[Seagloom]

PMC65 wrote...

And then Mass Effect would be just another "bang, bang, shoot em' up' next to Gears Of War type of game.

I OD'ed on DOOM / Wolfenstein and was finished with these types of games. What Mass Effect has done is given a reason to return with the love interests & friendships & story line. Take away that and leave combat .... I wouldn't have bought the game. But that is just me. I am probably in a minority on this.

You missed the part where I noted they could also work on their plots. In other words, the story? Mass Effect is the most story-lite series BioWare has done in my estimation. If hacking out romances meant fleshing out existing characters further, I would take it in a heartbeat. Romance is not why I play these games. It is a part of them, but it should never be the focal point.

[Lenimph]

Omega4RelayResident wrote...


Context is needed... or a translation please

Stop Blasto! Stop!

[IronSabbath88]

That's not what I meant though. I was making a point that people take romances way too seriously to the point that it's ridiculous. You can easily make a compelling storyline without romance, I should say. But my point was that all this bickering is silly because it's just PART of the Mass Effect experience.

By all accounts, I agree that Mass Effect wouldn't be my favourite game series if it didn't have all that squadmate interaction I just grow tired of this romance banter like it's the most serious thing ever.

[jeweledleah]

extended nude scenes IMO don't make a romance more mature. extended dialogue does. what witcher had was not romances. it was hookups. which is fine for witcher, seeing as Geralt is a bit of a man**** in books as well. honestly even his scene with Triss was just too much. it just adds nothing to the story, but it takes up resources and disc space.

[Omega4RelayResident]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Omega4RelayResident wrote...

Agreed quality trumps content

Depends.

Romeo and Juliette is widely seen as a great romance (I am assuming), but it annoys me.
Marc Antony and Cleopatra is seen as great (I assume), but I was happy when these 2 idiots were killed.

I am not sure how one can qualify and quantify the quality of a romance, it may be possible. But ultimately, what matters to me is whether I feel something or don't feel annoyed. I don't feel anything, or feel annoyed, that that's not a romance I'd like.

Romeo and Juliette created a connection on a personal level. The politics mixed up in the issue seemed to be trivial next to the romance... therefore it amounted to a tragedy.

The Roman politicians were against the relationship of Marc and Cleo... Marc also thought he could get her to love him in order to control Egypt with an iron fist. It backfired whe he actually met her... she fell for him but he also fell for her and those initial intentions fell through the cracks. She was not as reserved as Juliette though. She was the Lady Gaga of her time... so understandably the Romans were quite upset with his enthrallment.

The difference was that in one situation the politics were trivial in comparison to the romance and the other situation the romance was built out of politics. Thats why the connection to the romance was not the same.

Modifié par Omega4RelayResident, 17 septembre 2011 - 10:25 .

[eternalnightmare13]

This retarded **** gets 10 pages? ****.

[RAF1940]

Why is "sex" always in all caps?

Witcher 2 SEX Scene

[Omega4RelayResident]

eternalnightmare13 wrote...

This retarded **** gets 10 pages? ****.

UMADBRO?

[eternalnightmare13]

RAF1940 wrote...

Why is "sex" always in all caps?

Witcher 2 SEX Scene

Because the writer's 13-19?

[KnightofPhoenix]

Omega4RelayResident wrote...
Romeo and Juliette created a connection on a personal level. The politics mixed up in the issue seemed to be trivial next to the romance... therefore it amounted to a tragedy.

The Roman politicians were against the relationship of Marc and Cleo... Marc also thought he could get her to love him in order to control Egypt with an iron fist. It backfired whe he actually met her... she fell for him but he also fell for her and those initial intentions fell through the cracks. She was not as reserved as Juliette though. She was the Lady Gaga of her time... so understandably the Romans were quite upset with his enthrallment.

The difference was that in one situation the politics were trivial in comparison to the romance and the other situation the romance was built out of politics. Thats why the connection to the romance was not the same.

I know both of them well. That's not the point.

The point is, I am completely indifferent to both romances, and in one instance, was actually happy they died.
So, even if one was to determine that both of those romances are objectively of high quality (which might be possible), it still wouldn't matter to me.

[slimgrin]

This thread has brought out so much love, lol.

Modifié par slimgrin, 17 septembre 2011 - 10:28 .