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[Legbiter]

Mr.Kusy wrote...



Thane's cure.

Thane on coke would be hilarious.

[arne1234]

The point of a deadly desease is that it will kill you no mather what you might have done in your life wether your good or bad, wether your licked by many or not. Curing Thane would be a insult to what they tried to create with Thane not to mention life it self.
Thane however could opt to go into stasis and avoid dead somewhat realisticly.

[Fiery Phoenix]

koopaonfire wrote...

Even if there are treatments, it seems sort of cheap that he would accept them after all his talk about trying to make the universe brighter before he dies.

Not if he's romanced; that is his initial point of view until you romance him. In the romance scene itself he shakes and cries, telling Shepard that he's now afraid to die (presumably because he's found someone to live for).

Part of the reason I like Thane's romance so much. You actually get to see him develop as a character within the space of a single game.

[SilentK]

I think that Thane is well written and him having this disease isn't the only thing about him. It has driven him to start looking at his life again but him dying is not the only thing that makes me like him. It could be just as interesting to see how he handles gaining a few more years or a full long life. How will he handle it when he actually has to plan for a future and not for the next few months. Will he change his direction in life provided that he survives the reapers. Will he continue with his line of work.

Hmmm.... I'm all for having different ways for the story to play out, so I would be very happy if there is a way to cure him, some way to prolong his life. And then I would also be interested in one ending in which he dies simply so that I can sit in front of my PC and cry for my sad little FemShep. I always make one or two sad endings for my FemHawkes, Wardens and FemSheps. Him being cured would not ruin him. But him always dying, or always being cured would a little sad simply from a replay-point of view.

edit: spelling as always   =)

Modifié par SilentK, 18 septembre 2011 - 02:16 .

[Jonathan Shepard]

Computer_God91 wrote...

Or there is no cure and thane dies like planned. Seriously, people need to drop this cure crap. He has an incurable disease. It shouldn't be cured by a magic hand just because people like him.

and if there is a magic cure in ME3 I'll go back to the SM and kill him there just so I can avoid that loss of his character.

This.

[Shepenwepet]

I'm a huge Thane fan, and I'd like to say that I support a cure, but it's the timing that's bad. The galaxy is at war. Everyone's attention should be on the giant cuttlefish that want to eat them. Depending on how long the Hanar had been working on a cure, they could be years away, then it has to be tested...

Mordin's nose-deep in genophagey goodness, he really shouldn't have the time to look into this, but you can argue he came up with a countermeasure for the seeker swarms in about half a second if you take your time recruiting him. I dunno, I'm sure Bioware had ideas where Thane's story was going when they created him.

I expect death to be the default story for Thane, but I also expect a way to save him via treatment, and I don't mean a simple "will you help Thane or not" decision. A biggie. A head-scratcher.

arne1234 wrote...

The point of a deadly desease is that it will kill you no mather what you might have done in your life wether your good or bad, wether your licked by many or not. .

 

[Golden Owl]

Computer_God91 wrote...

Enmystic wrote...

If Thane's letter in his Shadow Broker dossier is anything to go by, I doubt it.
If Thane getting better is written plausibly then I don't see a problem.  That's one more person to help Shepard against the Reapers.

No. Going back on his death is just bad writing. If I write a character with a short life and then improve the life span just because people like my character that is terrible writing. If a Character is said to die within a set time frame then he/she/it must die otherwise it's really cheap "Oh he's only got a short time left , JK LOL HE'S FINE GUYZ :D". I'd be severely disappointed if Thane survived past his death date or was cured. Part of the sympathy and attraction toward Thane is the fact that he is going to die in the near future. If they go back on that then it's just weak.

and again if they do decide to find a "Cure" for Thane I'll go back through ME2 and have him die saving the crew, just to correct the bad writing choice.

Shepard was dead at the beginning of ME2...maybe ME2 should have finished then....Going back on Sheps death was bad writing?...And Shep was in a lot worse condition than just a pair of sh*tty lungs....it's ridiculously bad writing to say one man can be bought back from a spaced, burnt out shell...meat and tubes....in the ME universe, but lungs are impossible?

Modifié par Golden Owl, 18 septembre 2011 - 02:34 .

[BlueMagitek]

Easy enough.

Cure Thane: While he'll live longer, further engaging in strenuous activity *will* kill him, so he has to stay off the Normandy to bond with his son.

Did Not Cure Thane: He automatically takes the bullet, so to speak, in a Virmire situation, as he didn't have long to live anyway, sparing the other two possible sacrifices.

[Computer_God91]

Enmystic wrote...

And confining Thane to one absolute ending with no further development is bad writing too.
Thane is not defined by his illness.  Thane's illness is his conflict.  As I see it the resolution can either be he ends up accepting it, or he fights against it and gains more time by doing so.  Most of what is known about Thane's illness is from Thane himself, and he's no doctor nor is he a fortune teller.  

How do you know there's nothing out there to help Thane?  His dossier already states he can get a transplant, and that hasn't changed.  The Hanar are also working something, so it's not out of the realm of plausibility.  On top of that who said help would come easy or that it would be sure-fire?

Thane accepting death and doing what he can before he goes would make for a better end to his conflict then an outside force magically curing him. That's life, when you are given an incurable disease you have to come to terms with it and do what you can with the time you have left. Which is what he is going through and him getting cured would just cheapen it, because now instead of coming to terms with his condition he's back to regular old Thane (which if you remember Thane used to be a nothing more then a hitman). Sure they could add to it like how it's a life changing experience and whatever else but I think it makes for a better story for him to come to terms with him dying and do what he can to make things right before he goes then to be cured. It's alot more emotional that way too because all his fans want to see him cured. Well not everything is sunshine and unicorn farts.

Golden Owl wrote...
Shepard was dead at the beginning of ME2...maybe ME2 should have finished then....Going back on Sheps death was bad writing?...And Shep was in a lot worse condition than just a pair of sh*tty lungs....it's ridiculously bad writing to say one man can be bought back from a spaced, burnt out shell...meat and tubes....in the ME universe, but lungs are impossible?

Yup, I also think that Shep dying for NO reason at the begining of the second act in the trilogy was pathetic writing. There was a million other reasons Shep could've joined up with Cerberus but Bioware wanted to f*uck it all up with meanless death and instant resurrection where everyone just side steps the whole shep was dead event.

What did you expect me to defend that? Hell no.

Modifié par Computer_God91, 18 septembre 2011 - 08:13 .

[Computer_God91]

BlueMagitek wrote...

Did Not Cure Thane: He automatically takes the bullet, so to speak, in a Virmire situation, as he didn't have long to live anyway, sparing the other two possible sacrifices.

Which is what I'd do in ME2, not get his loyalty and have him sacrifice himself for the Normandy crew. He goes out like a hero not a sickly old drell.

[Enmystic]

Computer_God91 wrote...

Enmystic wrote...

And confining Thane to one absolute ending with no further development is bad writing too.
Thane is not defined by his illness.  Thane's illness is his conflict.  As I see it the resolution can either be he ends up accepting it, or he fights against it and gains more time by doing so.  Most of what is known about Thane's illness is from Thane himself, and he's no doctor nor is he a fortune teller.  

How do you know there's nothing out there to help Thane?  His dossier already states he can get a transplant, and that hasn't changed.  The Hanar are also working something, so it's not out of the realm of plausibility.  On top of that who said help would come easy or that it would be sure-fire?

Thane accepting death and doing what he can before he goes would make for a better end to his conflict then an outside force magically curing him. That's life, when you are given an incurable disease you have to come to terms with it and do what you can with the time you have left. Which is what he is going through and him getting cured would just cheapen it, because now instead of coming to terms with his condition he's back to regular old Thane (which if you remember Thane used to be a nothing more then a hitman). Sure they could add to it like how it's a life changing experience and whatever else but I think it makes for a better story for him to come to terms with him dying and do what he can to make things right before he goes then to be cured. It's alot more emotional that way too because all his fans want to see him cured. Well not everything is sunshine and unicorn farts.

The first sentence is debateable and it's your opinion which you are entitled to.  It is pure opinion to state that one ending would be more emotional or better than another.  I personally would seek an end where Thane gets better, whatever that entails. 

With your second sentence.  Just because Thane was given an illness doesn't mean he should give up, sit there and die.  That would be more of a disservice to who he is than anything.  As I mentioned before, I believe his conflict has two possible resolutions.  One where he accepts he fate and another where he fights against it and gains more time.  Man vs. self or man vs. fate.  As I have stated, we only know that Thane's illness in incurable based on what Thane's told us.  It is only incurable for the time being until the Hanar can figure something out or something comes up in ME3.  Incurable does not mean untreatable. 

Thane's story can be emotional whether he lives or dies.  Thane won't go back to the way he was just because his illness was treated.  Thane going back to being an assassin after his brush with death would truly be bad writing because if he did it would render his ME2 development void.  I understand that life is hard.  Who said that Thane getting better would be "sunshine and butterflies"?  I certainly didn't.  In fact I stated reasons why it wouldn't.  Thane living does not equal his happiness.  Also insinuating that a death is going to be more emotional simply due to the fanbase is just wrong. 

I don't see the problem with Thane having multiple endings. 

Modifié par Enmystic, 18 septembre 2011 - 09:05 .

[jbblue05]

Thane surviving after ME3 is almost as bad as all sqaddies surviving ME3.
You don't create a theme for a story and just brush it under the rug

[azerSheppard]

Legbiter wrote...

Mr.Kusy wrote...



Thane's cure.

Thane on coke would be hilarious.

isnt that atropine?

[KBomb]

Golden Owl wrote...

Shepard was dead at the beginning of ME2...maybe ME2 should have finished then....Going back on Sheps death was bad writing?...And Shep was in a lot worse condition than just a pair of sh*tty lungs....it's ridiculously bad writing to say one man can be bought back from a spaced, burnt out shell...meat and tubes....in the ME universe, but lungs are impossible?

I agree with this. People who want only a boo-hoo ending are no better than the ones who want a butterfly only ending. I am all about options. I see no reason why they can’t write a plausible reason for Thane living, or at least a reason to extend his life. They brought a man/woman back from the dead and kept a woman imprisoned in cryogenics without any ill effects, among other fantastical things in the whole Mass Effect universe, I see no reason why they couldn't come up with a cure, or treatment. That is the wonderful thing about fiction--it’s fiction.

[Golden Owl]

Computer_God91 wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...
Shepard was dead at the beginning of ME2...maybe ME2 should have finished then....Going back on Sheps death was bad writing?...And Shep was in a lot worse condition than just a pair of sh*tty lungs....it's ridiculously bad writing to say one man can be bought back from a spaced, burnt out shell...meat and tubes....in the ME universe, but lungs are impossible?

Yup, I also think that Shep dying for NO reason at the begining of the second act in the trilogy was pathetic writing. There was a million other reasons Shep could've joined up with Cerberus but Bioware wanted to f*uck it all up with meanless death and instant resurrection where everyone just side steps the whole shep was dead event.

What did you expect me to defend that? Hell no.

My apologies, I should have been clearer, my innuendo was not picked up on....You also state:

".........and again if they do decide to find a "Cure" for Thane I'll go back
through ME2 and have him die saving the crew, just to correct the bad
writing choice."

My innuendo made clear:....Why are you playing ME2 then if it bugs you so much?....Since correcting the bad writing in Sheps resurrection can not be achieved.

[Golden Owl]

KBomb wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

Shepard was dead at the beginning of ME2...maybe ME2 should have finished then....Going back on Sheps death was bad writing?...And Shep was in a lot worse condition than just a pair of sh*tty lungs....it's ridiculously bad writing to say one man can be bought back from a spaced, burnt out shell...meat and tubes....in the ME universe, but lungs are impossible?

I agree with this. People who want only a boo-hoo ending are no better than the ones who want a butterfly only ending. I am all about options. I see no reason why they can’t write a plausible reason for Thane living, or at least a reason to extend his life. They brought a man/woman back from the dead and kept a woman imprisoned in cryogenics without any ill effects, among other fantastical things in the whole Mass Effect universe, I see no reason why they couldn't come up with a cure, or treatment. That is the wonderful thing about fiction--it’s fiction.

Exactly...

[Izhalezan]

Thane can't be cured, instead he will have a robot body. With lasers...

[ladyvader]

Slidell505 wrote...

I think Thane dieing would be a twist. I mean, we're all expecting to find a magical cure right?

I'm not.  Actually, Thane should be very close to death by the beginning of ME3.   He did decline Dr. Chakwas' advice and didn't want his name on a lung transplant list. 

[Kasai666]

Azbeszt wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

Kasai666 wrote...

Oh hey, its Malik. I thought you died in that explosion...

Sounds like you suck at videogames.

Wait, you can save her?

It's a pain in the neck, but you can. I tried 4 different times and STILL failed. 

[Rekkampum]

Cerberus finds a cure for Thane's disease by experimenting on tons of drell.

[Rekkampum]

arne1234 wrote...

The point of a deadly desease is that it will kill you no mather what you might have done in your life wether your good or bad, wether your licked by many or not. Curing Thane would be a insult to what they tried to create with Thane not to mention life it self.
Thane however could opt to go into stasis and avoid dead somewhat realisticly.

[capn233]

Shepard: Thane! I thought you were dead...
Thane: I got better.

End scene.

[Kail Ashton]

I think the problem is Pogoboy is from the far future wherein on the extranet (yes they named it that, bioware lost the lawsuit against space google) this kind of humor is all the rage, unfortunetly for us we haven't yet evolved as both a society & species to fully appreciate or even comphrehend this joke

It's like giving a lighter to cavemen, we simply stare confused at this then run away in a mad panic

[DarthSliver]

Thane's cure is the secret behind the Lazarus Project

[night_raven26]

 Thane's cure

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