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[JackalofMons]

On the subject of PTSD and the possibility of future treatments. Just because someone has been cured of PTSD doesn't mean they are completely free of any emotional troubles.
PTSD is a type of severe anxiety disorder and current medical research suggests it involves the altering of function of certain areas of the brain. The brains of sufferers are essentially behaving as though they are still experiencing the trauma that caused it. Fixing this still leaves people with memories of psychological trauma that can have negative effect in other areas of their lives.

[Ace of Dawn]

Reminds me of when ME2 was coming out...

We saw the character trailers and people thought Thane looked boring, Jack and Samara were amazing.

Mass Effect 2 came out, Thane was more interesting than Jack and Samara wasn't bad, but wasn't particularly awesome (I think what irked me was that someone said she was like the intergalactic version of Jack Bauer, which is about as wrong as you can get... but w/e)

Point is, whether you end up liking Vega or not, you have no idea how he's going to act until the game comes out.

Token character, another broken individual, badass marine, etc etc. You're basically judging a person and how he acts by a few pictures here and there, and a story you heard about how he acted in a bar.

Personally, I like him. His appearance is fine because I was getting tired of everyone having the exact same body type. And really, his issue with his past seems a bit more complex than PTSD, but that's just my interpretation of it all.

[Beerfish]

Vega = Carver. A character seemginluy totally dimissed before the game but with some interesting attributes once the game comees out. Heck many people dismissed Shale in DAO and she was a very interesting character.

[Golden Owl]

After reading that comic I am very unimpressed with the Vega character....looks like just another thug with little self discipline to me...I was hoping he would be more than just a 'tank'...if the comic is canon representation of him, I feel very disappointed...I have a few times questioned Shep's judgement in who I/he am/is forced to recruit, I'm doing so again.

[Arppis]

It's funny that every character needs to be extra special snowflake for them to be viable. C'mon...

[Siven80]

After reading that comic, i'm rather scared that Vega will be an angsty emo character designed for teen girls.

I REALLY really hope i'm wrong.

[Xeranx]

Golden Owl wrote...

After reading that comic I am very unimpressed with the Vega character....looks like just another thug with little self discipline to me...I was hoping he would be more than just a 'tank'...if the comic is canon representation of him, I feel very disappointed...I have a few times questioned Shep's judgement in who I/he am/is forced to recruit, I'm doing so again.

Exactly.  The comic doesn't put Vega in a positive light in the least.  He looked for trouble when he should have just kept playing the game he was playing.  That he got up at his turn to rip a television off the wall in an establishment that is not his own, with a Krogan behind the counter no less, is representative of stupidity of which there are several types.  He seems to be completely cognizant of his actions ("I don't want to forget") making him a veritable meathead indeed.

[I_Jedi]

If I get an event where I'm supposed to pull a virmire, I'm going to send Vega at the problem. Everyone, except Vega, wins.

[MarchWaltz]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

He beat up a batarian with a television screen. He's a winner in my book.

[Mykel54]

I will give James a nice red shirt so he can deal with his PTSD.

[BlueMagitek]

Ah come on guys, Vega won't be so bad. Heck, if Bioware really wanted to, they could have tortured Shepard by having him guarded by the infamous interrogation expert of the Alliance, Noober! A punishment and a cameo all in one!

I'm not sure why everyone is so up in arms about him. If you don't like him, don't talk to him or take him with you. If Bioware continues with how they allowed you to influence companions, you could completely screw him over like you could Tali, if it pleases you.

When I heard he was supposed to be there to help new players out, I expected a new or relatively inexperienced Marine, not someone suffering from PTSD. I have to say though, I'd probably be happier with DoomGuy. I mean, you guys think Shepard's been through hell...

[Nyreen]

Xeranx wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

After reading that comic I am very unimpressed with the Vega character....looks like just another thug with little self discipline to me...I was hoping he would be more than just a 'tank'...if the comic is canon representation of him, I feel very disappointed...I have a few times questioned Shep's judgement in who I/he am/is forced to recruit, I'm doing so again.

Exactly.  The comic doesn't put Vega in a positive light in the least.  He looked for trouble when he should have just kept playing the game he was playing.  That he got up at his turn to rip a television off the wall in an establishment that is not his own, with a Krogan behind the counter no less, is representative of stupidity of which there are several types.  He seems to be completely cognizant of his actions ("I don't want to forget") making him a veritable meathead indeed.

Yup. All the whining weeks ago about Vega's meathead status has been confirmed. Thanks for the surprise, Bioware.

[DCarter]

It's too early to judge the character but this was not what i was expecting. I thought Vega was supposed to be a rookie the galactic politics and mega threats of a shepard mission. So why not have him develop psychological issues over the course of the game, instead of giving him a troubled past?

[The Spamming Troll]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Yakko77 wrote...


:happy:

But seriously, I like the idea of Vega being brought on to "guard" Shep if only as a cover for him to eventually team up with Shep.

"Hmm.. somebody needs to guard war hero during high profile trial and then help him save the galaxy... how about a random ****** drunk screwed up washout?! Can't think of anything better! "

this is what i ws thinking. so i recruited the best mercs the galaxy has to offer in ME2, then ME3 gives me my old ME1 squad, and noobs like vega.

i dont get the point of me playing ME2, at all.

[didymos1120]

Xeranx wrote...

 He seems to be completely cognizant of his actions ("I don't want to forget") making him a veritable meathead indeed.

Actually, that would tend to suggest that he's not, as the "veritable meathead" type isn't particularly noted for that sort of self-awareness.

[Someone With Mass]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

this is what i ws thinking. so i recruited the best mercs the galaxy has to offer in ME2, then ME3 gives me my old ME1 squad, and noobs like vega.

i dont get the point of me playing ME2, at all.

Then don't. 

Don't complain about ME2 either. We get it. It wasn't flawless. Boo-hoo.

[CroGamer002]

Beerfish wrote...

Vega = Carver. A character seemginluy totally dimissed before the game but with some interesting attributes once the game comees out. Heck many people dismissed Shale in DAO and she was a very interesting character.

lol

I love that twist.

[Shimmer_Gloom]

From what I understand PTSD is just part and parcel of sending a man into combat. I don't have the numbers offhand, but if I remember correctly a large percentage of people who go into combat (something close to one fourth) come back with some kind of psychological battle stress. Wikipedia says:

"One-tenth of mobilized American men were hospitalized for mental disturbances between 1942 and 1945, and after thirty-five days of uninterrupted combat, 98% of them manifested psychiatric disturbances in varying degrees."

And pretty much every soldier coming back from combat has to deal with re-assimilating into society in different ways. Some never do and go straight back into combat. It seems like this is Vega's problem. And it is a common one. And if we look closely Shep probably has the same problem. Why do you think s/he didn't just retire after defeating Sovereign? Sure he knew about the reapers and etc... but the threat wasn't immediate yet. Shep goes straight bakc into hunting down Geth.

PTSD and related problems are a topic that is incredibly, well, topical right now. And I've been waiting for Mass Effect to tackle the issue for a while. Why is it that none of the characters that follow Shep ever show signs of Psychological trauma from battle? Well now we have one.

[Xeranx]

didymos1120 wrote...

Xeranx wrote...

 He seems to be completely cognizant of his actions ("I don't want to forget") making him a veritable meathead indeed.

Actually, that would tend to suggest that he's not, as the "veritable meathead" type isn't particularly noted for that sort of self-awareness.

I actually denote a person who doesn't have that level of awareness and still commits acts of stupidity a fool.

As defined, a meathead is a stupid person.  Someone who knows what they're doing and does it anyway knowing that there's no real benefit likely of any kind is, in my books, stupid.

[Fates end]

Would like to point out that we don't actually know if he has PTSD. The fact that "something" happened on a planet/place named Fehl isn't really proof of anything. Think it'd be best to wait before we just decide that Vega must have PTSD.

[Reever]

You know what? I´d really laugh out loud if he were to die at the beginning of the game =D

And I do like him (or actually, I´ll wait for more info on him ^^), I´d just find that hilarious!

[CroGamer002]

^Since there's also a DLC armor for him, that won't happen.

[didymos1120]

Xeranx wrote...

  Someone who knows what they're doing and does it anyway knowing that there's no real benefit likely of any kind is, in my books, stupid.

That would apply to practically everyone ever. 

[marstor05]

JackalofMons wrote...

On the subject of PTSD and the possibility of future treatments. Just because someone has been cured of PTSD doesn't mean they are completely free of any emotional troubles.
PTSD is a type of severe anxiety disorder and current medical research suggests it involves the altering of function of certain areas of the brain. The brains of sufferers are essentially behaving as though they are still experiencing the trauma that caused it. Fixing this still leaves people with memories of psychological trauma that can have negative effect in other areas of their lives.

yep.  flashbacks.  at any time.  like the events happened minutes ago, not days/weeks/years ago.  scares the crap outta ya.

[Xeranx]

didymos1120 wrote...

Xeranx wrote...

  Someone who knows what they're doing and does it anyway knowing that there's no real benefit likely of any kind is, in my books, stupid.

That would apply to practically everyone ever. 

Yes it would. 

Amending my statement, it would apply to everyone if our cases applied to my response all the time.  It doesn't.  We have moments when we're stupid.  Distilling us to the level that we're stupid all the time is unfair, but the level of stupid displayed by Vega in the comic is just really stupid. That's robbing a store in front of the cops (knowing that they're there) kind of stupid - though robbing a store can be not stupid depending on the situation.

Vega's playing a game with a group of Batarians and in front of them he rips a television down when there's a report on 300k Batarian deaths.  If the roles were reversed we would expect the humans to let the Batarian go because obviously he's bothered by something?  No.  Vega rips the t.v. down and says "As long as I don't have to listen to this bullsh!t".  300k Batarian deaths is bullsh!t?  The reverse: 300k human deaths is bullsh!t?  

That is stupid.

Modifié par Xeranx, 18 septembre 2011 - 04:34 .