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I'm following her on Facebook, does that count?

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How very fascinating. You say you can't trust anything that Morrigan says, yet you believe her when she says Flemeth plans to use her as her next vessel? How does that work exactly?

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The cake is a lie. :alien:

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The Grey Nayr wrote...
And let's not forget, in the world of Dragon Age there are more things at work than we are aware of. People just assume Flemeth is one of a kind, but there are likely others like her.


You can say that again. <_<

And in my opinion, Flemeth is either:

a) A Tevinter magister

B) An Old God

c) Fen'Harel

The last two are more probable from what I can tell - but there are a number of hints in the storyline and lore that suggest any of these could be true.

Whatever she is, she will be absolutely integral in whatever unfolds in future Dragon Age titles in a very big way.


Wait, I thought that Fen'Harel was male?  Or am I mistaken?

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Wait, I thought that Fen'Harel was male?  Or am I mistaken?


I don't know - who's to say Flemeth is really a female? And how can anyone really apply a gender to any of these supernatural beings at all?

I notice that before the battle with her in DA:O she starts speaking of herself in third-person - as if "Flemeth" were nothing more than an identity or a facade for what she (or it) really is. Not to mention that Flemeth is supposed to be an "abomination" anyway, and not completely "herself."

Knowing that, I don't see how anything of the "real" Flemeth can even exist anymore. If this being within her has to body-hop, wouldn't the "real" Flemeth have died along with the original body it came to inhabit?

I mean, there's obviously nothing left of the "real" Sophia when you encounter her in Soldier's Peak - the demon has completely overtaken her body and made it its own. And that demon hasn't even had to body-hop for this to happen. So I can't imagine that the "real" Flemeth even exists at all, if the old stories are to be at least partially believed.

Also, the codex entry for Arlathan mentions that Fen'Harel wanders the Fade - and a being of the Fade requires a mortal host to come into the material world. Just an observation I made.

EDIT: As a matter of fact, she also states that, "Names are pretty, but useless. The Chasind folk call me Flemeth, I suppose it will do." Again, stating this as if she's not really "Flemeth", or that "Flemeth" doesn't even exist.

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rememeber she doesnt call herself flemeth she is called flemeth and she just use the name she is given
some people call me flemeth others asha belanar or on old hag that talks to much
(what allistair called her) so the namle is not important when your around for a couple of centuries u probably go by many names
again i must make the comparison of flemeth to duncan mccloud (highlander) he also lived for many centurys and had many names but still is himself no matter who he was called by others
don't forget flemeth has 2 spirits within her a demon but she was first aproached by a spirit morrigan said the demon only came much later helping her getting rid of her persuers
she must be some sort of mix between anders justice' spirit and some sort of abomination,creating a new form of entity (a good spirit taking over a demon) for a change  XD
whatever she is,her name is not of importance
the rest only time will tell

Modifié par goandkissurmuthersbehind, 19 septembre 2011 - 07:47 .


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goandkissurmuthersbehind wrote...

rememeber she doesnt call herself flemeth she is called flemeth and she just use the name she is given
some people call me flemeth others asha belanar or on old hag that talks to much
(what allistair called her) so the namle is not important when your around for a couple of centuries u probably go by many names
again i must make the comparison of flemeth to duncan mccloud (highlander) he also lived for many centurys and had many names but still is himself no matter who he was called by others
don't forget flemeth has 2 spirits within her a demon but she was first aproached by a spirit morrigan said the demon only came much later helping her getting rid of her persuers
she must be some sort of mix between anders justice' spirit and some sort of abomination,creating a new form of entity (a good spirit taking over a demon) for a change XD
whatever she is,her name is not of importance
the rest only time will tell

I long for the day when Flemeth produces a sword out of thin air and begins to lop off the heads of her enemies, whilst crying out "there can be only one!" Of course, this would mean that Queen songs would be playing in the background.

....talk about awesome....

*koff* Anyhow...I don't recall any definitive statement/codex entry/conversation where it was said that Flemeth has "2 spirits within her." I think that's a lot of speculation. Morrigan originally refers to her as an abomination but later changes her stance and declares that she doesn't know what Flemeth is.

I think the safest bet at this point is to declare Flemeth a chess player (or whatever the Thedas equivalent of chess is) - she's moving pieces on the board, setting the stage for something yet to come that she has seen a glimpse of.

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I still find the idea of Flemeth nettling Morrigan about giving her an Old God Child hilarious.

Morrigan: Stop staring at them, Mother. T'is most disquieting.
Flemeth: I wonder, girl. Yes, I wonder if you will produce a fair-haired child or perhaps... a quiet one.
Morrigan: Ugh, there is much to do as they heal and slumber and yet you prattle on.
Flemeth: Practice my dear, merely practicing. One can never be too old to practice. Which reminds me...
Morrigan: Oh no.
Flemeth: Make sure to practice at making a child, so when the time comes-
Morrigan: Yes, yes, it will be far easier to convince them so.
Flemeth: Good girl - now rub my feet. I am old now, and they are sore.
Morrigan: Ugh.

Modifié par Esbatty, 19 septembre 2011 - 10:44 .


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I don't follow.


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The Grey Nayr wrote...

But it raises the question, who would want to or even be able to keep track of that ghastly old dragon?


The dozen other Flemeths already buzzing around the world.

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Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

The dozen other Flemeths already buzzing around the world.


Who be da babeh daddy? :o

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Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

The dozen other Flemeths already buzzing around the world.


But there's already an army of cloned Morrigans:

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Fen'Harel is a trickster, much akin to Loke (or Loki) in old norse mythology. And Loke has been known to dress up as woman when it suited and furthered his plans. As for Flemeth being an abomination, I think not, however, Morrigan in DAO does say that she's not entirely human or not human at all. She just appears this way. My take on Flemeth is that she's called 'the witch og the wild', asha bellanar and possibly also some other names by other people that know about her.

I've also long speculated that she might be either a) an old god (elven) or B) a tevinter magister or possibly Fen'Harel - or maybe even the Maker herself. (I've seem tro remember a thread or two speculating about this as well).

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I'm pretty sure Fen'Harel is the Maker, so you'd be correct on both counts if true.

I also think this "Morrighan'nan" the Ash Warrior mentions in his tale about Luthias the Dwarfson is probably Flemeth as well - so add that to the list of names as well.

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I just hope this scenario of Morrigan vs Flemeth and the ogb gets resolved at some point in the series. There is enough there to make a whole game out of this situation.

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Besides the obvious answers of "Morrigan" and "the Warden" — if my guy is tracking her down, I would not be surprised — Flemeth may have other enemies that we simply do not know about.

I remember that Cassandra commented that she was not surprised Flemeth was involved in bringing Hawke to Kirkwall. That implies to me the Seekers are aware of Flemeth's existence, and if they view her as a threat, they may have even tried to kill her. At the very least, the Chantry was in possession of one of her books.

Plus, an immortal witch is bound to make a few enemies over the centuries, depending on what her palns may be. Demons, spirits, other mages — who knows what could be after her?

As she herself said: "There are many, many reasons to kill Flemeth. More than you know."

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Arthur Cousland wrote...

I just hope this scenario of Morrigan vs Flemeth and the ogb gets resolved at some point in the series. There is enough there to make a whole game out of this situation.


theres enough everywhere to make storys out of  situations but if they would make a game for every event that happens in thedas they'll be making DA 22 in 20 years from now and they still wont be able to put it all in
they should arc out the games more
 theres much more to be told about the star wars universe that doesn't mean they should still make new movies thats where the spin offs come in like kotr

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Morrigan+Flemeth are different. I wasn't serious about having a whole game about them, but both are well written, and this scenario needs to at least be resolved. The ogb also needs to make an appearance, because I say so!

Yes, they should still keep making Star Wars movies! Anything Star Wars is awesome, and many, many more movies, videogames and cookies should be made. "May the force be with you."

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Arthur Cousland wrote...

Morrigan+Flemeth are different. I wasn't serious about having a whole game about them, but both are well written, and this scenario needs to at least be resolved. The ogb also needs to make an appearance, because I say so!

Yes, they should still keep making Star Wars movies! Anything Star Wars is awesome, and many, many more movies, videogames and cookies should be made. "May the force be with you."

they are force unleashed,kotr,the anime series ect
but the movies are done the story's been told 
i liked it,i still do but i'm also glad it has closure and we can go on with new stuf
the forks are always with me:)

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whykikyouwhy wrote...

goandkissurmuthersbehind wrote...

rememeber she doesnt call herself flemeth she is called flemeth and she just use the name she is given
some people call me flemeth others asha belanar or on old hag that talks to much
(what allistair called her) so the namle is not important when your around for a couple of centuries u probably go by many names
again i must make the comparison of flemeth to duncan mccloud (highlander) he also lived for many centurys and had many names but still is himself no matter who he was called by others
don't forget flemeth has 2 spirits within her a demon but she was first aproached by a spirit morrigan said the demon only came much later helping her getting rid of her persuers
she must be some sort of mix between anders justice' spirit and some sort of abomination,creating a new form of entity (a good spirit taking over a demon) for a change XD
whatever she is,her name is not of importance
the rest only time will tell

I long for the day when Flemeth produces a sword out of thin air and begins to lop off the heads of her enemies, whilst crying out "there can be only one!" Of course, this would mean that Queen songs would be playing in the background.

....talk about awesome....

*koff* Anyhow...I don't recall any definitive statement/codex entry/conversation where it was said that Flemeth has "2 spirits within her." I think that's a lot of speculation. Morrigan originally refers to her as an abomination but later changes her stance and declares that she doesn't know what Flemeth is.

I think the safest bet at this point is to declare Flemeth a chess player (or whatever the Thedas equivalent of chess is) - she's moving pieces on the board, setting the stage for something yet to come that she has seen a glimpse of.


:Owww.youtu.be/CGMGwWWUkII:O

Modifié par goandkissurmuthersbehind, 22 septembre 2011 - 11:09 .


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I would like to think she is Fen'Harel. Fenris makes a comment about her.
Fenris: I have seen powerful mages, spirits, and abominations. But you are none of those things. What are you?
■Flemeth: Such a curious lad. The chains are broken, but are you truly free?
■Fenris: You see a great deal.

She tells Hawke she is the fly in the ointment, and the whisper in the wind. The fly in the ointment could mean that she likes to spoil plans. She tells Maric in “The Stolen Throne” I was here long before your Chantry came to this part of the world. She can tell you about the future. She can read someone’s past. She read Fenris, Maric and Loghain. She told the Warden she likes to spread rumors to throw people off.
She is one of the most interesting characters in Dragon Age.