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[AbsolutGrndZer0]

I hear people talk about a Paragade, and I am intrigued, however... how does that work? Alternate between responses, or what? If I did it I would start with ME1 and play through.  So, what exactly is a "Paragade"?

[nocbl2]

Just do what you think is morally correct, hit every quick time action, and you'll end up with a Paragade or Renegon.

[Bogsnot1]

Paragade is what losers drink.
Winners drink Tupari.

[eternalnightmare13]

Paragade is the goofy term someone came up with to describe a mix of the two. It's fairly simple to do, pick a combo of the Paragon/Renegade choices in whatever order you want with more of an emphasis on Paragon, but still some Renegade. Rather thenalways picking puss...Paragon or Renegade every time.

[floccinaucinihilipilification]

Well, a Paragade is sort of like a Renegon, just the other way around. Hope that's helpful.

Anyway, if you intend to take the most straightforward path, it means you're mostly nice to folks, except to those who don't deserve it. Mix blue with red according to your own taste.

[d1sciple]

my canon fem/male shep are renegon/paragade respectively. it's the most realistic and logical way to run, either one full and your character just seems like a complete douche, either a goody two shoes ****goty douche or a **** for brains with a mullet douche lol

[capn233]

Are the Reapers really after Renegon cubes?

[Hallusinaatti]

A normal person with a normal morality sense will end up more or less Paragade when choosing decisions based on his/her own moralities, asking "what would I do?"

I tend to lean a lot towards Renegade, but accumulate lots of paragon points as I save folks when I get the chance.

[AbsolutGrndZer0]

How does it work in Mass Effect 2 with the Charm/Intimidate system? I mean for example, wouldn't you be pretty much screwing yourself in Samara's Loyalty mission? I think it was estimated you need like 90% one or the other up to that point to get the charm/intimidate choice.

[Pallid]

AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...

How does it work in Mass Effect 2 with the Charm/Intimidate system? I mean for example, wouldn't you be pretty much screwing yourself in Samara's Loyalty mission? I think it was estimated you need like 90% one or the other up to that point to get the charm/intimidate choice.

That is the point - when palying paragade\\renagon you won't be able to use some charm\\intimidate choices. You just do what you think is right and pay the price for it.

[Hallusinaatti]

Only if you wish to recruit Morinth. You don't need much P/R points to actually complete the quest. You just need to resist Morinth for a while until Samara barges into the room and finishes the job.

[AbsolutGrndZer0]

Hallusinaatti wrote...

Only if you wish to recruit Morinth. You don't need much P/R points to actually complete the quest. You just need to resist Morinth for a while until Samara barges into the room and finishes the job.

Ah yeah ok I remember that now... I always had enough points to make the choice, so wasn't sure what happened if you didn't.

[Ieldra]

omskman wrote...

AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...

How does it work in Mass Effect 2 with the Charm/Intimidate system? I mean for example, wouldn't you be pretty much screwing yourself in Samara's Loyalty mission? I think it was estimated you need like 90% one or the other up to that point to get the charm/intimidate choice.

That is the point - when palying paragaderenagon you won't be able to use some charmintimidate choices. You just do what you think is right and pay the price for it.

That is false. You just need to do the missions in the right sequence, and you'll get all persuasion options on both sides except for one or two (if you aren't careful). I've made an extensive post about that. See...

A Mass Effect 2 Persuasion Guide - how to get both persuasion options everywhere

[AbsolutGrndZer0]

Ieldra2 wrote...

omskman wrote...

AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...

How does it work in Mass Effect 2 with the Charm/Intimidate system? I mean for example, wouldn't you be pretty much screwing yourself in Samara's Loyalty mission? I think it was estimated you need like 90% one or the other up to that point to get the charm/intimidate choice.

That is the point - when palying paragaderenagon you won't be able to use some charmintimidate choices. You just do what you think is right and pay the price for it.

That is false. You just need to do the missions in the right sequence, and you'll get all persuasion options on both sides except for one or two (if you aren't careful). I've made an extensive post about that. See...

A Mass Effect 2 Persuasion Guide - how to get both persuasion options everywhere

Cool, thanks!

[Veloric Wu]

d1sciple wrote...

my canon fem/male shep are renegon/paragade respectively. it's the most realistic and logical way to run, either one full and your character just seems like a complete douche, either a goody two shoes ****goty douche or a **** for brains with a mullet douche lol

This.

and FemShep makes real badass Renegons

[Doug4130]

I didn't intentionally go either way, just made the choices based on what I thought, but I ended up full renegade with about 25% paragon, maybe a bit more by the time I finished ME2. I didn't really understand it.. I had all my squad do the "right" thing during their loyalty missions, saved the rachni queen, all 16 colonists etc and still ended up renegade. My shep must truly be a badass. Enough Renegade so all the guys wanna be him, with just enough Paragon so the ladies of the galaxy think they can change him.

[AbsolutGrndZer0]

So if you managed to be 50%/50%, how would the game determine your final "alignment"? The final decision? Is it even possible to manage 50%/50%?

[Jedi Master of Orion]

I don't know if it's possible to make it 50/50, but the paragade character I made was I think about 80% full-50% full Paragon-Renegade, if I recall right. My strategy was that I picked mostly intimidate options in the first game but did most of the major decisions as paragon. Essentially, someone who was aggressive and not the most diplomatic person but usually did the paragon-y thing when push came to shove. In such a case he would still technically count as a paragon, becuase there is more paragon points.

Modifié par Jedi Master of Orion, 22 septembre 2011 - 11:40 .

[d1sciple]

you can do 50/50. both my canon sheps are boarderline, with fem being slightly more ren and male been slightly more paragon and it was really hard to get it right being that one small thing either way can push you to 50/50 or over easily, screwing up my plans.i've got no clue what impact staying 50/50 would have, but you can do it.

[AbsolutGrndZer0]

d1sciple wrote...

you can do 50/50. both my canon sheps are boarderline, with fem being slightly more ren and male been slightly more paragon and it was really hard to get it right being that one small thing either way can push you to 50/50 or over easily, screwing up my plans.i've got no clue what impact staying 50/50 would have, but you can do it.

Hmm... wish there was a way to know ALL the decisions and do the math to figure out exactly how to manage a perfect 50/50 and find out... but I suck with math so I would not be the one to ever pull it off LOL.

[Gallimatia]

I only know of three things the overall paragon/renegade status decides, the ending of ME1; Samara's feelings towards Shepard and Kelly's comment about bad boys. In the case of Samara being at 50/50 plays out the same as all out paragon. In the case of Kelly being at 50/50 plays out the same as all out renegade.

In the case of the ME1 ending I would assume 50/50 counts as paragon. It's no doubt safe to rule out a unique 50/50 ending.

Modifié par Gallimatia, 23 septembre 2011 - 02:02 .

[AbsolutGrndZer0]

Gallimatia wrote...

I only know of two things the overall paragon/renegade status decided, the ending of ME1 and Samara's feelings towards Shepard. In the latter case being at 50/50 plays out the same as all out paragon. It's probably the same with the ME1 ending. It's no doubt safe to rule out a unique 50/50 ending.

Yeah, would be so hard to do that for them to make a special 3rd ending would be pointess.  So, yeah probably defaults to paragon in the rare nearly impossible case