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[Unschuld]

knightnblu wrote...

Thirty years!?!? I thought the Viagra instructions said to see a doctor if it lasted for more than 4 hours?

They're only trying to cover their asses so they don't get sued by people who get annoyed at knocking objects off every short table they pass by.

[Trekfanboy]

Oh, I would pay good money for the writers in ME3 to have Shepard walk by a terminal on the Citadel and have a goofy Viagra commercial from today show up ... but rewritten so that it's about letting Quarians come out of their suits for longer periods without risk of serious infection.

[Unschuld]

If there were any real advertisements in Mass Effect, it would be proof that Bioware's soul has been fully consumed by EA.

Short answer: Hell No. Do not want.

[Destroy Raiden_]

Streuselsturm wrote...

nerve stims is like cybersex
in the end ur just ****ing with yourself


But about killing the Li. Maybe in ME3 at some point ur romance gets kiddnaped and u have to rescue her/him sacrificing ... something else

I would hate that it's to cliche the main character's LI always gets kidnapped it actually quite boring nowadays. Why not shep gets kidnapped and I suppose sedated again and playing as the LI you have to figure out will you make whomever is the XO go and get shep or say nothing do your job during the battle for saving whom or whatever and then hope shep is fine. But if you delay like this shep is hurt and hacked or used for whatever purpose they wanted him for and then you have a much more difficult time getting him back.

[Cheesy Blue]

"how can a long lasting relationship happen with tali"

My Answer

[Unschuld]

Rowan Atkinson tells it like it is.

[Zorziban the Great]

My troll senses are tingling....

[Dominus]

A successful relationship doesn't necessarily involve f*cking constantly.

This. If the relationship you have for someone is completely driven physically and towards sex, perhaps it's time to reconsider the relationship overall. So to answer the very simple question, yes, you can have a long lasting relationship with Tali.

[Unschuld]

Dominus, your ghost stopped drinking the wine but there's still a red puddle of merlot at his "feet".

[Dilandau3000]

Assuming the worst case scenario where Tali isn't able to adapt to Shepard so their physical contact must be extremely limited, I'd expect it would be like a real life long-distance relationship: difficult, but possible if both sides are committed enough. It would actually be a bit easier since at least they're able to cuddle with the suit on.

That said, from what's been said in the game so far it seems likely that the physical side of things would actually get easier over time.

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Let's say there's a mid-game romance section in ME3, where only a little (optional!) physical contact takes place: a logical, albeit unintended outcome of going "too far" with Tali would be her getting a severe fever, resulting in an extra scene or two at the gameplay 'cost' of her being out of commission for the duration of one main mission/planet. Obviously, one wouldn't expect Jacob or even Liara to be able to get in a similar situation.

You know, I actually would like that, just for the realism. In fact, this always bothered me a bit in ME2: after the ending, Tali says she's feeling sick but it was "totally worth it". However, she was fine and able to perform as normal during the suicide mission! That's an awfully convenient delayed reaction there.

For realism, it would've been great if physical contact either took Tali out of the picture for the SM or reduced her performance somewhat. Of course, if they went that route there should've been an option to avoid taking her suit off while still having a romance scene with her.

[darthnick427]

I say it would last as long as they had the passion, desire, and love to make it work which is true of any relationship. Take that as you will

[CptData]

DominusVita wrote...

A successful relationship doesn't necessarily involve f*cking constantly.

This. If the relationship you have for someone is completely driven physically and towards sex, perhaps it's time to reconsider the relationship overall. So to answer the very simple question, yes, you can have a long lasting relationship with Tali.

I dunno.
Sex is not the major driving part of a romantic relationship but also not one you can entirely dismiss.

And more important: it seems as if Tali is the one who needs physical attention: she wanted it, she needed the feel Shepard's skin on her own etc. Basically, I think Tali demands a physically close relationship and will do anyhing necessary to keep it that way.

I need to concur in one thing: procreation can be a goal for any heterosexual relationship, but it is not a primary goal. So even if Tali and Shepard never can have children, it doesn't mean they can't be happy till the end of their lives.

[Mathias]

I sometimes like to compare Talimancers to the fangirls who love Edward from Twilight. Is that fair?

Nope!

Talimancers are living in a fairytale thinking Tali would be the ultimate love of their life. Now i'm sure if they could date Tali IN REAL LIFE, some of them would find happiness with Tali, but I guarantee you that at least half of those people would give up on their relationship with her at some point.

The problem is there's so many variables and hurdles that would go along with this relationship. I'm sure that there's some people out there that would be able to live happily ever after, but you gonna tell me every Talimancer out there would make that relationship last? Please. We're living in a world with a staggering divorce rate over things that aren't nearly as complicated as dating a Quarian.

Modifié par Mdoggy1214, 10 décembre 2011 - 02:47 .

[Unschuld]

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

I sometimes like to compare Talimancers to the fangirls who love Edward from Twilight. Is that fair?

Nope!

Just like fangirls of Twilight, Talimancers are living in a fairytale thinking Tali would be the ultimate love of their life. Now i'm sure if they could date Tali IN REAL LIFE, some of them would find happiness with Tali, but I guarantee you that at least half of those people would give up on their relationship with her at some point.

The problem is there's so many variable and hurdles that would go along with this relationship. I'm sure that there's some people out there that would be able to live happily ever after, but you gonna tell me every Talimancer out there would make that relationship last? Please. We're living in a world with a staggering divorce rate over things that not nearly as complicated as dating a Quarian.

Lol. I think the focus is a bit narrow. That line of thinking could easily be broadened and applied to certain individuals in ALL the LI character groups from what I've seen.

[Fiannawolf]

Well if the game makes me choose between Geth and Quarian factions, well, sorry but the patchwork fleet is gonna go. Gimme a Geth Entire super fleet any day of the week. Guess the 2 sheps where tali is still alive wont have a very lasting friendship. XD Besides I like Legion better.

[Mathias]

Unschuld wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

I sometimes like to compare Talimancers to the fangirls who love Edward from Twilight. Is that fair?

Nope!

Just like fangirls of Twilight, Talimancers are living in a fairytale thinking Tali would be the ultimate love of their life. Now i'm sure if they could date Tali IN REAL LIFE, some of them would find happiness with Tali, but I guarantee you that at least half of those people would give up on their relationship with her at some point.

The problem is there's so many variable and hurdles that would go along with this relationship. I'm sure that there's some people out there that would be able to live happily ever after, but you gonna tell me every Talimancer out there would make that relationship last? Please. We're living in a world with a staggering divorce rate over things that not nearly as complicated as dating a Quarian.

Lol. I think the focus is a bit narrow. That line of thinking could easily be broadened and applied to certain individuals in ALL the LI character groups from what I've seen.

That's true lol. Although Talimancers are particularly more delusional than the rest.

[Unschuld]

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

That's true lol. Although Talimancers are particularly more delusional than the rest.

From the past threads I've read, hell yes. It seems pretty tame for the most part currently, especially when compared to some of the other threads. Maybe the crazies just haven't returned yet.
"Tell me about your diaphoresis..."

[Dilandau3000]

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Talimancers are living in a fairytale thinking Tali would be the ultimate love of their life.

Or maybe we realize that she's a fictional character from a video game and have no such delusion. The question being asked here was how could Shepard (you know, another fictional character) have a long lasting relationship with her, not how could we do so. Because we can't, since Tali doesn't actually exist.

I find Tali a fascinating character, but that doesn't mean I'm in love with her. I expect the same is true for most "Talimancers". There appear to have been a rabid few that took things to far (I can't speak with certainty since I've only heard of these events second-hand, as I'm fairly new on these forums), but please don't equate the rest of us with that.

[Unschuld]

Saphra Deden wrote...


I'd be fine with that. In fact I'd even be fine with Tali's performance on the SM being worse if you go all the way.

I weighed that possibility the first time I played through ME2, and nearly didn't go through with it. I was actually a bit disappointed that it ended up having no effect on things.

Modifié par Unschuld, 10 décembre 2011 - 03:48 .

[Wulfram]

The important thing is to embrace the time that you have to spend with a fish.

Personally I think it would have been better - both in terms of "realism" and romance - if they'd limited contact. Have direct skin contact limited to holding hands, maybe a stroke of the cheeks - to someone like Tali who has been stuck in the suit her entire life this would surely still be pretty special. Rather than antibiotics + herbs (really, herbs?) = snogging and implied sex.

[Dilandau3000]

Wulfram wrote...

The important thing is to embrace the time that you have to spend with a fish.

Personally I think it would have been better - both in terms of "realism" and romance - if they'd limited contact. Have direct skin contact limited to holding hands, maybe a stroke of the cheeks - to someone like Tali who has been stuck in the suit her entire life this would surely still be pretty special. Rather than antibiotics + herbs (really, herbs?) = snogging and implied sex.

That's why I think it would've been better if there was an option to limit the physical contact, and a consequence to not doing so, like Tali being out of commission for the suicide mission.

I'm also somewhat nervous about ME3 in that regard. The sappy romantic in me would like it if Tali and Shep can settle down on Rannoch and fix the immune system problem somehow, but the writer in me is going to yell  "cop-out!" if that happens, especially on repeated playthroughs (please: no spoilers! I'll see what happens when the game comes out). The same thing is true for Thane: a happy ending is nice, but any LI resolution that involves a cure is going to feel like a cop-out.

[Mathias]

Calinstel wrote...

Disillusional? Not really. At least no more so than any other fan group that argues, sometimes fanatically, about their own pixel LI.

That said, Tali stated, in the game, that her reaction could be anywhere from a mild reaction up to and including death. It appears the writers decided to make a quarian/human reaction mild. And, as stated above, the quarians adapt to their partners. Granted, with a human it may take longer but it may actually take less time as well. They do deserve the chance to find out though.

So, in conclusion, deal with it. You have your LI's, we have ours. Time to grow up and let others be and just enjoy what you have.

I think you're taking what I said a little too personally and seriously.

[witchee2woman]

tali said she had unfinished business with shephard. makes ya think what that could mean?