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Actually, why don't you just play a video game marketed to a different demographic?


Why don't you take your own advice and go play the Sims or some Japanese dating sim or whatever?

Because I'm winning.

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And for the love of flip, the DA2 companions are not all bi. Isabela is the only openly bisexual character, the only one who says "I love women and men!" regardless of Hawke's gender / if Hawke pursues a romance. Everyone else has ambiguous sexuality.

"Ambiguous", hah! Give me a break: everyone is obviously Hawkesexual, just to accomodate the whiners.

Funny, seems like all the whiners these days are the anti-s/s people... imagine that!

Hilarious even, seeing the bigots nowadays are the non-heterosexuals... a case of looking into the abyss, I guess.

And I'm not anti-s/s, I'm opposed to retcons and bad design decisions.

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Because we are human, the same as you. The only difference between you and a gay person is your phobia of what someone else does in the bedroom. Stop being such a self entitled ass.


It's your group that has behaved like over-entitled, arrogant children for the longest time. Do what you want in your bedroom but you ought to keep it there rather than making this huge deal out of it and expecting everybody to become bisexual in a video game.


Bisexual and homosexual relationships happen outside the bedroom too, y'know...

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I wonder how you'd feel if straight was the hated option. And being straight meant being in the closet. And everyone in games were gay except for like...THREE GAMES. And in those very few games, everyone told you to go away because they wanted no straight in any games at all because they were selfish ****s. I wonder. I doubt you'd be so sanguine about it.


Time for crazy hypothetical scenarios eh? If everybody was gay in the world I'd think humanity would have far greater worries.

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Hilarious even, seeing the bigots nowadays are the non-heterosexuals... a case of looking into the abyss, I guess.

And I'm not anti-s/s, I'm opposed to retcons and bad design decisions.

You talk an awful lot about the depravities of the homosexual community for that to really be the case...

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ReconTeam wrote...

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Because we are human, the same as you. The only difference between you and a gay person is your phobia of what someone else does in the bedroom. Stop being such a self entitled ass.


It's your group that has behaved like over-entitled, arrogant children for the longest time. Do what you want in your bedroom but you ought to keep it there rather than making this huge deal out of it and expecting everybody to become bisexual in a video game.


... I admit that the word "homophobe" does get slung around a lot, but what you just said is exactly that. Extremely so.

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Sabariel wrote...

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Because we are human, the same as you. The only difference between you and a gay person is your phobia of what someone else does in the bedroom. Stop being such a self entitled ass.


It's your group that has behaved like over-entitled, arrogant children for the longest time. Do what you want in your bedroom but you ought to keep it there rather than making this huge deal out of it and expecting everybody to become bisexual in a video game.


Bisexual and homosexual relationships happen outside the bedroom too, y'know...


You'll ruin zie's worldview. How cruel.

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ElitePinecone wrote...

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So... this sort of romance is badwrongfun why, exactly?

Because it detracts from the actual gameplay, that's why.


That's a matter of perception and opinion, surely. 

Some people enjoy the character interaction more than the gameplay. 

Can it wait for a bit, I'm in the middle of some... oh wait, what was I thinking? Exclusive optional romance content obviously supercedes content everyone should be able to access regardless of gender or sexuality.

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I wonder how you'd feel if straight was the hated option. And being straight meant being in the closet. And everyone in games were gay except for like...THREE GAMES. And in those very few games, everyone told you to go away because they wanted no straight in any games at all because they were selfish ****s. I wonder. I doubt you'd be so sanguine about it.


Time for crazy hypothetical scenarios eh? If everybody was gay in the world I'd think humanity would have far greater worries.


I believe in Mpreg.

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Xilizhra wrote...
Because I'm winning.


By pretending you are so superior that you don't have to actually respond to an argument? Yeah, you're winning, whatever helps you sleep at night kid...

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Kaiser Shepard wrote...

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And for the love of flip, the DA2 companions are not all bi. Isabela is the only openly bisexual character, the only one who says "I love women and men!" regardless of Hawke's gender / if Hawke pursues a romance. Everyone else has ambiguous sexuality.

"Ambiguous", hah! Give me a break: everyone is obviously Hawkesexual, just to accomodate the whiners.

Funny, seems like all the whiners these days are the anti-s/s people... imagine that!

Hilarious even, seeing the bigots nowadays are the non-heterosexuals... a case of looking into the abyss, I guess.

And I'm not anti-s/s, I'm opposed to retcons and bad design decisions.

Also funny, a lot of us thought the lack of choice was the bad design decisions. And if you are so opposed to retcons, why are you even arguing about this game, as it's full of retcons all over he place.

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ReconTeam wrote...

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Because I'm winning.


By pretending you are so superior that you don't have to actually respond to an argument? Yeah, you're winning, whatever helps you sleep at night kid...

No, you misunderstand. I'm winning in that homosexual relationships are becoming more accepted, which is why I'll continue playing these games because I can reasonably expect that I'll enjoy the content in them.

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Xilizhra wrote...

Hilarious even, seeing the bigots nowadays are the non-heterosexuals... a case of looking into the abyss, I guess.

And I'm not anti-s/s, I'm opposed to retcons and bad design decisions.

You talk an awful lot about the depravities of the homosexual community for that to really be the case...

I think I'm missing something here.  If you somehow proved Reconteam was a bigot, how would that prove the nonexistence of gay bigots?

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Darth Krytie wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...

Darth Krytie wrote...
I wonder how you'd feel if straight was the hated option. And being straight meant being in the closet. And everyone in games were gay except for like...THREE GAMES. And in those very few games, everyone told you to go away because they wanted no straight in any games at all because they were selfish ****s. I wonder. I doubt you'd be so sanguine about it.


Time for crazy hypothetical scenarios eh? If everybody was gay in the world I'd think humanity would have far greater worries.


I believe in Mpreg.


IVF. Problem solved. :D

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Also funny, a lot of us thought the lack of choice was the bad design decisions. And if you are so opposed to retcons, why are you even arguing about this game, as it's full of retcons all over he place.


Again, more of this backwards logic. 'Some poor design/plot descisions justify more retcons to suit my tastes'

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Xilizhra wrote...

Hilarious even, seeing the bigots nowadays are the non-heterosexuals... a case of looking into the abyss, I guess.

And I'm not anti-s/s, I'm opposed to retcons and bad design decisions.

You talk an awful lot about the depravities of the homosexual community for that to really be the case...

I merely complain about the attitude of entitlement everyone round these parts seems so keen to excibit, whereas the only time I've used the word "depravities" on here was in reference to all the -mancers on the forums.

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I merely complain about the attitude of entitlement everyone round these parts seems so keen to excibit, whereas the only time I've used the word "depravities" on here was in reference to all the -mancers on the forums.

And I believe that there's a lot of entitlement, probably more, going in the other direction, though I don't believe all of it is deliberate. Though there's one specific person whom you'd do well to disavow if you want me to believe that you're only concerned about game design.

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No, you misunderstand. I'm winning in that homosexual relationships are becoming more accepted, which is why I'll continue playing these games because I can reasonably expect that I'll enjoy the content in them.


You honestly couldn't enjoy the games without homosexual content? Sounds like this is your problem, not mine, nor the industry's.

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Also funny, a lot of us thought the lack of choice was the bad design decisions. And if you are so opposed to retcons, why are you even arguing about this game, as it's full of retcons all over he place.

And I complain about those as well. I do, however, feel that realising the initial premise on which the series was built takes precedence over some shallow virtual "romances".

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No, you misunderstand. I'm winning in that homosexual relationships are becoming more accepted, which is why I'll continue playing these games because I can reasonably expect that I'll enjoy the content in them.


You honestly couldn't enjoy the games without homosexual content? Sounds like this is your problem, not mine, nor the industry's.

I'm pleased to say that the industry is displaying a growing lack of problems in that regard.

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This thread is getting warm.

Waiting for someone to insert image *you mad?* any minute now..

So tempted lol

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Pro S/S
ZOMG! everyones es entolreantz and homophobz! I jus wantz hot lesbinz in mi game so I canz jack off! Equalty for all!

I like to ruin already established characters so I can get horny instead of just playing a male or female character to appropriately experience the romances as the writers intended them to be experienced.

Anti S/S
ZOMG! I hate teh feggetz they all vocolz mionrties and ruin writing n stuff!

I don't want my character tampered with or touched by anyone even by writers who created the characters in the first place. I instantly reject anyone who comes forth with a S/S idea because my character should be special to me and custom tailored to my preferences because I'm a selfish a**hole.[/i]

Reasonable People
I don't give a F**k.


Trolls (90% of the people hear according to a national study that I made up)
U mad?

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#348
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ReconTeam wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...
No, you misunderstand. I'm winning in that homosexual relationships are becoming more accepted, which is why I'll continue playing these games because I can reasonably expect that I'll enjoy the content in them.


You honestly couldn't enjoy the games without homosexual content? Sounds like this is your problem, not mine, nor the industry's.


And you honestly couldn't enjoy games WITH homosexual content?

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It'd be awesome if everyone ended up being bisexual. I really liked that about Dragon Age 2. I mean that's what rpgs are all about, more choices. Having them all bi doesn't give anyone less choice everyone can play their own playthrough to how they'd like.

It's a video game after all, not real life. Honestly if I can suspend belief about aliens, technology that can bring people back to life, and all that crazy stuff, its really not that much of a stretch to assume everyone on the ship can easily be bi.

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ReconTeam wrote...

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Also funny, a lot of us thought the lack of choice was the bad design decisions. And if you are so opposed to retcons, why are you even arguing about this game, as it's full of retcons all over he place.


Again, more of this backwards logic. 'Some poor design/plot descisions justify more retcons to suit my tastes'


You want what you want, we want want we want. So sad that you aren't going to get what you want going forward. BioWare isn't going to back away from s/s content now just because of a handful of very vocal people screaming about m/m content. Make a statement, don't buy the next game.. but thats not likely to happen.