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[Nashiktal]

greengoron89 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...
...pull an "Obsidian".

What the heck does that mean?

I was wondering the exact same thing. LOL. Does he mean "to be forced to meet an impossible deadline by the publisher"? That's the only way to pull an "Obsidian" that I can think of.

Maybe he means release a game half finished? I don't know.

[Nashiktal]

jreezy wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...
...pull an "Obsidian".

What the heck does that mean?

I was wondering the exact same thing. LOL. Does he mean "to be forced to meet an impossible deadline by the publisher"? That's the only way to pull an "Obsidian" that I can think of.

The crazy thing is, despite all the limitations, Obsidian managed to create a pretty good game in my opinion.

No denying that, but its still usally half finished. It might be the publishers fault, but its still terrible.

[Quole]

Nashiktal wrote...

jreezy wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...
...pull an "Obsidian".

What the heck does that mean?

I was wondering the exact same thing. LOL. Does he mean "to be forced to meet an impossible deadline by the publisher"? That's the only way to pull an "Obsidian" that I can think of.

The crazy thing is, despite all the limitations, Obsidian managed to create a pretty good game in my opinion.

No denying that, but its still usally half finished. It might be the publishers fault, but its still terrible.

terrible for the publisher.....

[Nashiktal]

greengoron89 wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...
...pull an "Obsidian".

What the heck does that mean?

I was wondering the exact same thing. LOL. Does he mean "to be forced to meet an impossible deadline by the publisher"? That's the only way to pull an "Obsidian" that I can think of.

Maybe he means release a game half finished? I don't know.

Isn't that what people were already accusing DA2 of being? Seems like a redundant thing for him to say, if so.

I wouldn't say DA2 is half finished, but it definitely needed more time in the oven. So many areas felt unifished, and so many resources were reused way too obviously. Bioware did a great job in general concept and direction, but the game was definitely unfinished.

[Kaiser Shepard]

greengoron89 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...
...pull an "Obsidian".

What the heck does that mean?

I was wondering the exact same thing. LOL. Does he mean "to be forced to meet an impossible deadline by the publisher"? That's the only way to pull an "Obsidian" that I can think of.

Do what Obsidian often does when it comes to making sequels: leave the engine and other vital stuff as they are, add some new stuff to make it feel "fresh" and simply create a new story/game with what you have. You know, the obvious thing to do when the previous game is both commercially and critically acclaimed.

Quole wrote...

Kaiser is kind of an idiot.

And here I thought you were a decent guy for a talimancer... 

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 19 septembre 2011 - 08:38 .

[Quole]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...
...pull an "Obsidian".

What the heck does that mean?

I was wondering the exact same thing. LOL. Does he mean "to be forced to meet an impossible deadline by the publisher"? That's the only way to pull an "Obsidian" that I can think of.

Do what Obsidian often does when it comes to making sequels: leave the engine and other vital stuff as they are, add some new stuff to make it feel "fresh" and simply create a new story/game with what you have. You know, the obvious thing to do when the previous game is both commercially and critically acclaimed.

Quole wrote...

Kaiser is kind of an idiot.

And here I thought you were a decent guy for a talimancer... 

Just telling it like it is.

[Nashiktal]

Jek Romano Shavo wrote...

re: KOTOR 2 being half-finishd; download the Restoration mod.

Doesn't mean kotor 2 isn't half finished though. It took fans to restore most of its functionality, and even they can't completely finish it. They just worked with what obsidian left behind in the code.

Damn fine work, doesn't excuse the fubar.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Nashiktal wrote...
 
No good things? The game was an underfunded, rushed mess, but saying no good came out of it is not fair.

'"No good things" as in nothing ME3 could learn from.

[Nashiktal]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...
 
No good things? The game was an underfunded, rushed mess, but saying no good came out of it is not fair.

'"No good things" as in nothing ME3 could learn from.

There is plenty ME3 could learn from. Like how to handle characters. Varric didn't just sit at home waiting for hawke to summon him, he and the other companions had lives and lived them with or without hawke. DA2 also did a much better job at character animations in my opinion.

And although their system was still limited, I dare say DA2s method of handling conversations was better than ME;s silly morality bars.

[Quole]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...
 
No good things? The game was an underfunded, rushed mess, but saying no good came out of it is not fair.

'"No good things" as in nothing ME3 could learn from.

Theres the stupidity I was talking about.

[Quole]

jreezy wrote...

Quole wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...
 
No good things? The game was an underfunded, rushed mess, but saying no good came out of it is not fair.

'"No good things" as in nothing ME3 could learn from.

Theres the stupidity I was talking about.

Yes because that's definitely not true.

More stupidity.

[AnAccountWithNoName]

I don't see anything wrong with not wanting all the LI's to be Bi.

[Izhalezan]

AnAccountWithNoName wrote...

I don't see anything wrong with not wanting all the LI's to be Bi.

Now you done it, you gonna get called stupid.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Meh, fair enough, although there are better alternatives for morality meters.

As far as the general design choices go, however, my point still stands.

Nashiktal wrote...

And although their system was still limited, I dare say DA2s method of handling conversations was better than ME;s silly morality bars.

Restricting your conversation options - or rather, them succeeding or not - based upon an invisible one wasn't much better than ye usual Persuasion and Intimidation.

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 19 septembre 2011 - 09:08 .

[AnAccountWithNoName]

Izhalezan wrote...

AnAccountWithNoName wrote...

I don't see anything wrong with not wanting all the LI's to be Bi.

Now you done it, you gonna get called stupid.

That's ok, it won't be the first time

[ElitePinecone]

I think this thread has run its course when the participants are discussing the merits of two different games that aren't Mass Effect and debating the definition of stupidity.

[Aeowyn]

Quole wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Quole wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...
 
No good things? The game was an underfunded, rushed mess, but saying no good came out of it is not fair.

'"No good things" as in nothing ME3 could learn from.

Theres the stupidity I was talking about.

Yes because that's definitely not true.

More stupidity.

So anyone who disagrees with you is stupid?

[Kaiser Shepard]

Aeowyn wrote...

So anyone who disagrees with you is stupid?

Of course, that's what people do when they can't think of a proper argument.

ElitePinecone wrote...

I think this thread has run its course when the participants are discussing the merits of two different games that aren't Mass Effect and debating the definition of stupidity.

Agreed, there'll be another topic tomorrow anyway.