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[Zakatak757]

Miniscule possibility that Bioware is changing sexuality of digital characters whose sexuality isn't fully revealed?

F*CK THIS COMPANY AND F*CK THIS GAME, I'm done!

[Xilizhra]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...
Let's see... is this particular idiot educable or incurable? Scanning post now...

The people who want this "everybody is bisexual" BS calling others idiots? Something's wrong with this picture.

Of course something's wrong: nowadays, when you aren't romantically involved with someone of your gender or don't fanatically support gay "equality", you're automatically a homophobe.

I suppose that means the game is xenophobic as well, seeing how not all human characters are black and/or asian...

I think this is the second time you've said something like this, and I think it's sounding like you're being deliberately obtuse. You don't have to be an activist about it, you just can't dislike it.

[FoxHound109]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Of course something's wrong: nowadays, when you aren't romantically involved with someone of your gender or don't fanatically support gay "equality", you're automatically a homophobe.

Oh look, it's that non-existent argument that resembles "reverse racism!"

Visual aid time!



You are the baby. The spoon is the principle of equality. See how he fails to grasp it?

[Golden Owl]

Zakatak757 wrote...

Miniscule possibility that Bioware is changing sexuality of digital characters whose sexuality isn't fully revealed?

F*CK THIS COMPANY AND F*CK THIS GAME, I'm done!

Zak...you cool?....Don't leave......Kasumi will miss you....

[FoxHound109]

Zakatak757 wrote...

Miniscule possibility that Bioware is changing sexuality of digital characters whose sexuality isn't fully revealed?

F*CK THIS COMPANY AND F*CK THIS GAME, I'm done!

LOL!

[Kathleen321]

zingro wrote...

This thread is awesome sauce, will Kaiden get a sex change in ME3?

oh gawd
 

[Kaiser Shepard]

Xilizhra wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...
Let's see... is this particular idiot educable or incurable? Scanning post now...

The people who want this "everybody is bisexual" BS calling others idiots? Something's wrong with this picture.

Of course something's wrong: nowadays, when you aren't romantically involved with someone of your gender or don't fanatically support gay "equality", you're automatically a homophobe.

I suppose that means the game is xenophobic as well, seeing how not all human characters are black and/or asian...

I think this is the second time you've said something like this, and I think it's sounding like you're being deliberately obtuse. You don't have to be an activist about it, you just can't dislike it.

True, but it isn't the first time you guys approach someone of a contrary opinion by simply being overzealous bigots either.

[Xilizhra]

True, but it isn't the first time you guys approach someone of a contrary opinion by simply being overzealous bigots either.

See an overzealous bigot, reply with zeal. I don't believe it counts as bigotry, as I'm only ever speaking in regards to an opinion they've expressed.

[FoxHound109]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

True, but it isn't the first time you guys approach someone of a contrary opinion by simply being overzealous bigots either.

It's less of approaching someone of a contrary opinion with too much zeal and approaching it with the furstration that this has been discussed to death. This isn't just beating a dead horse: this is like Sarah Jessica Parker beating ANOTHER dead horse and then having to sit there and watch as her attack spirals out of control. All over again. For the millionth time. While we're at it, why don't we just start the endless complaining about James Vega, just to kill two birds with a single stone. It would save a lot of time for everybody involved.

[Lucky Thirteen]

The safe thing is to make them not hit on Shepard. Let Shepard initiate it, make sure it's clear as friggen day that the option you are selecting is hitting on them, and you can play the entire game really never knowing their sexual preferences.

That's what people keep bringing up, I don't want such and such a character hitting on me.

Otherwise, I say deal with it. I have to deal with Shiala suddenly finding my straight femShep attractive and hitting on her. You don't understand how hard I face palmed when she did her little shoulder stroke thing. What happened to that awesome wise asari from the first game? Why couldn't she just have said, thanks Shepard *hand shake.*

But noooooooooooo, asari are genderless and go any which way on the swing. I don't care, any woman into an asari has to be at least bisexual if not full out lesbian. It is a homosexual relationship.

[Lenimph]

The only thing this thread has accomplished is that I now I want to see Kaidan in drag....

[FoxHound109]

Lucky Thirteen wrote...

The safe thing is to make them not hit on Shepard. Let Shepard initiate it, make sure it's clear as friggen day that the option you are selecting is hitting on them, and you can play the entire game really never knowing their sexual preferences.

They will STILL complain. Dragon Age 2 has a massive red HEART icon telling you which dialogue options are romance related and which ones are not, and people still found useless reasons to complain. 

[Rekkampum]

The_REPORT wrote...

I'm done with Bioware. Sacrificing story or character integrity for the sake of appeasing a handful of fans doesn't sit well with me.

If they were gay or bisexual from the start, then whatever. In fact, go ahead and make more NEW gay characters if you feel that your games need more gays or bisexuals. But the last thing I need is having a character like Garrus turn around and hit on me simply because a bunch of random dudes wanted him to be gay.

All I ask for is consistency, and to have Bioware learn from their "loleveryoneisbi" mistake in DA2.
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 Oh and to preemptively address a few common arguments:

"They never explicitly state they're NOT bi/gay!"

That's about as valid as saying that it would be legitimate to have Harry Potter defeat Voldemort with Ninjutsu because it never explicitly states that he's not a ninja earlier in the series.

"You can make lots of choices with character decisions and personalities!"

Many of the characters are written to have conflicting character traits that you can foster in the game. Being straight or gay isn't a personality trait. May as well ask the developers to allow the choice to turn Miranda black. None of the straight characters have so much of a hint that they're bisexual, except Jack who apparently tried it and is now done with it. Making any of them bisexual is both unnecessary and jarring. Make good gay characters for the gays instead of caving in to ridiculous requests to alter characters.

"Tali was maybe going to be bisexual during development of ME2!"

And she's not in the official game. Plenty of things get cut during development.

Inb4 homophobe/beatingdeadhorse.

trollolo

[Kathleen321]

Lucky Thirteen wrote...

The safe thing is to make them not hit on Shepard. Let Shepard initiate it, make sure it's clear as friggen day that the option you are selecting is hitting on them, and you can play the entire game really never knowing their sexual preferences.

That's what people keep bringing up, I don't want such and such a character hitting on me.

Otherwise, I say deal with it. I have to deal with Shiala suddenly finding my straight femShep attractive and hitting on her. You don't understand how hard I face palmed when she did her little shoulder stroke thing. What happened to that awesome wise asari from the first game? Why couldn't she just have said, thanks Shepard *hand shake.*

But noooooooooooo, asari are genderless and go any which way on the swing. I don't care, any woman into an asari has to be at least bisexual if not full out lesbian. It is a homosexual relationship.

I agree with the whole- player initiates it deal. It should be the players choice otherwise it just gets awkward. But I'm totally for it being there and I don't see why the mere idea of these characters being gay makes people so angry. 

[Lucky Thirteen]

Lenimph wrote...

The only thing this thread has accomplished is that I now I want to see Kaidan in drag....

squidbreath.deviantart.com/art/Kaidan-that-ME3-Outfit-221341201

Modifié par Lucky Thirteen, 19 septembre 2011 - 04:24 .

[ladyvader]

Lucky Thirteen wrote...

The safe thing is to make them not hit on Shepard. Let Shepard initiate it, make sure it's clear as friggen day that the option you are selecting is hitting on them, and you can play the entire game really never knowing their sexual preferences.

That's what people keep bringing up, I don't want such and such a character hitting on me.

Otherwise, I say deal with it. I have to deal with Shiala suddenly finding my straight femShep attractive and hitting on her. You don't understand how hard I face palmed when she did her little shoulder stroke thing. What happened to that awesome wise asari from the first game? Why couldn't she just have said, thanks Shepard *hand shake.*

But noooooooooooo, asari are genderless and go any which way on the swing. I don't care, any woman into an asari has to be at least bisexual if not full out lesbian. It is a homosexual relationship.

Don't tell that to Leia Shepard.  She isn't into human females at all and isn't bi.  She is very much hetrosexual that happen to fall in love with an asari.  That does NOT make her bi nor a lesbian.

[Darth Krytie]

Kathleen321 wrote...

I agree with the whole- player initiates it deal. It should be the players choice otherwise it just gets awkward. But I'm totally for it being there and I don't see why the mere idea of these characters being gay makes people so angry. 

I like player-initates it, too. It was hella awkward for my lesbian Shep to try to get Jacob's personal quest, especially because she basically says "hey, baby, let's get personal...in my bed" every time you greet him.

For those who dislike being accused of being homophobes, this is probably why you are. That you're angry at the even hint that a character is gay. (Regardless if he or she wasn't out before). That's what people are reacting too. The vehemence of oh noe gay reaction.

It's off-putting, to say the least. Especially to those of us who are gay/bi.

Modifié par Darth Krytie, 19 septembre 2011 - 04:29 .

[Xilizhra]

ladyvader wrote...

Lucky Thirteen wrote...

The safe thing is to make them not hit on Shepard. Let Shepard initiate it, make sure it's clear as friggen day that the option you are selecting is hitting on them, and you can play the entire game really never knowing their sexual preferences.

That's what people keep bringing up, I don't want such and such a character hitting on me.

Otherwise, I say deal with it. I have to deal with Shiala suddenly finding my straight femShep attractive and hitting on her. You don't understand how hard I face palmed when she did her little shoulder stroke thing. What happened to that awesome wise asari from the first game? Why couldn't she just have said, thanks Shepard *hand shake.*

But noooooooooooo, asari are genderless and go any which way on the swing. I don't care, any woman into an asari has to be at least bisexual if not full out lesbian. It is a homosexual relationship.

Don't tell that to Leia Shepard.  She isn't into human females at all and isn't bi.  She is very much hetrosexual that happen to fall in love with an asari.  That does NOT make her bi nor a lesbian.

Wait, wut?

[Mr.House]

There is no sexuality to alter since no sexuality has been established except for Liara.

/get's the homophobeshield

[Kathleen321]

Is this the pic Lucky Thirteen?

[Mr.House]

ladyvader wrote...

Lucky Thirteen wrote...

The safe thing is to make them not hit on Shepard. Let Shepard initiate it, make sure it's clear as friggen day that the option you are selecting is hitting on them, and you can play the entire game really never knowing their sexual preferences.

That's what people keep bringing up, I don't want such and such a character hitting on me.

Otherwise, I say deal with it. I have to deal with Shiala suddenly finding my straight femShep attractive and hitting on her. You don't understand how hard I face palmed when she did her little shoulder stroke thing. What happened to that awesome wise asari from the first game? Why couldn't she just have said, thanks Shepard *hand shake.*

But noooooooooooo, asari are genderless and go any which way on the swing. I don't care, any woman into an asari has to be at least bisexual if not full out lesbian. It is a homosexual relationship.

Don't tell that to Leia Shepard.  She isn't into human females at all and isn't bi.  She is very much hetrosexual that happen to fall in love with an asari.  That does NOT make her bi nor a lesbian.

Your femshep is dating a person with a body similar to a female human, she is a lesbian.

[ladyvader]

Xilizhra wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

Lucky Thirteen wrote...

The safe thing is to make them not hit on Shepard. Let Shepard initiate it, make sure it's clear as friggen day that the option you are selecting is hitting on them, and you can play the entire game really never knowing their sexual preferences.

That's what people keep bringing up, I don't want such and such a character hitting on me.

Otherwise, I say deal with it. I have to deal with Shiala suddenly finding my straight femShep attractive and hitting on her. You don't understand how hard I face palmed when she did her little shoulder stroke thing. What happened to that awesome wise asari from the first game? Why couldn't she just have said, thanks Shepard *hand shake.*

But noooooooooooo, asari are genderless and go any which way on the swing. I don't care, any woman into an asari has to be at least bisexual if not full out lesbian. It is a homosexual relationship.

Don't tell that to Leia Shepard.  She isn't into human females at all and isn't bi.  She is very much hetrosexual that happen to fall in love with an asari.  That does NOT make her bi nor a lesbian.

Wait, wut?

What was hard to understand?

[jwalker]

The_REPORT wrote...

I'm done with Bioware.
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[bla bla bla]

Joined last friday and already done. Okay. That was fast...
But not fast enough though.

Anyway, bye :happy: