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Sabariel wrote...

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Except Mordin, but nobody gets to sleep with him.


And that upsets me so :(


He totally rejected Shepard.

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makenzieshepard wrote...

Your female Shepard is in a lesbian relationship if they are with an asari, you deal with it.

Technically, you're not correct.

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I've recently discovered that I'm bad at detecting some jokes...so just saying, he wasn't married either...and if that was sarcasm/joke, please tell me.

It wasn't a joke. I'm fairly sure he was married (I do know he had at least one brother), as nearly all men of that age and that time period were.

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What if they're characters that were supposed to be bisexual options? Such as Miranda or Jack?

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Sabariel wrote...

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I wouldn't rage quit.

But I do agree with the OP that Bioware shouldn't retcon characters who have only expressed an interest in the opposite sex for two games. My issue isn't with there being bi or gay characters in game, but with characters being retconned to fill the gay/bi romance quota. I would also facepalm if Bioware went the Dragon Age 2 route and just had practically your entire squad be bisexual.

Bioware's best bet would be to have new characters like Vega, who are a blank slate, be the bi or gay romance options. The only exceptions to this should be characters from previous games who have expressed an interest in the same sex (Jack) or characters who never expressed an interest in either sex, one way or the other.


I have known gay men who have dated women, even married women, to hide their sexuality. Outwardly, yes, they appeared quite straight... until they came out of the closet. Not talking about blokes does not equal "he isn't gay".

And the only truly bisexual companion in DA2, as in the only one who openly expresses an interest in women and men despite Hawke's gender / if Hawke romances them or not, is Isabela. The other companions' sexuality is ambiguous, they do not openly express an interest in both genders.



Sure. In the real world people sometimes hide their sexuality and pretend to be heterosexual, when in fact they are secretly gay or bisexual.

But should that be the case in game as well? Here is the problem with that:

If you decide to define a character's sexuality as ambiguous unless he or she has expressed an interest in the same sex, you've just taken heterosexual characters out of the game. Now every character is either gay, bi, or an unknown.

So for simplicity's sake I think a character's sexuality should be defined by their expressed interests over the last two games. Characters that have previously only expressed an interest in Sheps of the opposite sex, and who have only mentioned previous heterosexual romances, should return in ME3 as heterosexual.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 19 septembre 2011 - 06:05 .


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jreezy wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

Your female Shepard is in a lesbian relationship if they are with an asari, you deal with it.

Technically, you're not correct.

Is that a retcon? Because in ME1 they were technically all female.

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Explain to me your point because I've only read anything you've ever said to me in sarcasm.

um... do you think that you could rephrase that?


Perhaps we could discuss our confusion with each other via PM but last I knew, I was blocked by you. 

not anymore, just the spambots now.

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Quole wrote...

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makenzieshepard wrote...

Your female Shepard is in a lesbian relationship if they are with an asari, you deal with it.

Technically, you're not correct.

Is that a retcon? Because in ME1 they were technically all female.

No, in ME1 humanity says their female.

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If you decide to define a character's sexuality as ambiguous unless he or she has expressed an interest in the same sex, you've just taken heterosexual characters out of the game. Now every character is either gay, bi, or an unknown who is possibily gay or bi but in the closet.

There are no know gay characters in the game at all...

So for simplicity's sake I think a character's sexuality should be defined by their expressed interests over the last two games. Characters that have previously only expressed an interest in Sheps of the opposite sex, and who have only mentioned previous heterosexual romances, should return in ME3 as heterosexual.

Why do you need to have explicit heterosexuals exist so much?

Modifié par Xilizhra, 19 septembre 2011 - 06:05 .


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jreezy wrote...

Quole wrote...

jreezy wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

Your female Shepard is in a lesbian relationship if they are with an asari, you deal with it.

Technically, you're not correct.

Is that a retcon? Because in ME1 they were technically all female.

No, in ME1 humanity says their female.

So you are saying the codex is wrong?

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Xilizhra wrote...

Let's see... is this particular idiot educable or incurable? Scanning post now...

Actually, I give up. In fact, yes. I advocate that Garrus ask, outright and repeatedly, for buttsex from male Shepard. And have the sex scene show the effects of barbed turian genitalia as graphically as possible.

"Can it wait for a bit? I'm in the middle of some anal sex."

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Quole wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Quole wrote...

jreezy wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

Your female Shepard is in a lesbian relationship if they are with an asari, you deal with it.

Technically, you're not correct.

Is that a retcon? Because in ME1 they were technically all female.

No, in ME1 humanity says their female.

So you are saying the codex is wrong?


Sex is not the same as gender. Being sexually female does not mean you identify as a woman. They are monogendered.

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Xilizhra wrote...
Why do you need to have explicit heterosexuals exist so much?


Why do you need to have bisexuals everywhere?

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Rekkampum wrote...

Quole wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Quole wrote...

jreezy wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

Your female Shepard is in a lesbian relationship if they are with an asari, you deal with it.

Technically, you're not correct.

Is that a retcon? Because in ME1 they were technically all female.

No, in ME1 humanity says their female.

So you are saying the codex is wrong?


Sex is not the same as gender. Being sexually female does not mean you identify as a woman. They are monogendered.

Yes. monogendered means one gender. Female.

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Xilizhra wrote...

I've recently discovered that I'm bad at detecting some jokes...so just saying, he wasn't married either...and if that was sarcasm/joke, please tell me.

It wasn't a joke. I'm fairly sure he was married (I do know he had at least one brother), as nearly all men of that age and that time period were.


Well, going by the Bible, he wasn't. That's a whole 'nother topic though.



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Quole wrote...

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Your female Shepard is in a lesbian relationship if they are with an asari, you deal with it.

Technically, you're not correct.

Is that a retcon? Because in ME1 they were technically all female.

No, in ME1 humanity says their female.

So you are saying the codex is wrong?

Maybe? Anyway Liara says gender has no meaning to her species so technically they aren't female, especially as humans understand it.

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Quole wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Quole wrote...

jreezy wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

Your female Shepard is in a lesbian relationship if they are with an asari, you deal with it.

Technically, you're not correct.

Is that a retcon? Because in ME1 they were technically all female.

No, in ME1 humanity says their female.

So you are saying the codex is wrong?

There have been inconsistencies within the codex, but this is not one of them. The Codex says "female", the characters say "female", and the creators have said "female". I think that about covers it. They are a race a females, both by description and biologically (as this fiction goes, at any rate).

Modifié par Sunnie22, 19 septembre 2011 - 06:10 .


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Asari are female It's within the first 30 seconds of the video on Asari so don't be lazy and watch it.

/this part of the thread

ETA: Jesus Christ I left it running in the background, women this and female that...forgot it's such a goldmine against this stupid argument.

Modifié par makenzieshepard, 19 septembre 2011 - 06:10 .