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[Tenauri]

So, by the end of Mass Effect 2, you can have a pretty hefty death-toll wracked up, depending on how the suicide mission went. Bioware has said that every character in ME1&2 will be coming back in 3 in a meaningful way - provided they survived. Well, what if they didn't survive? How do you imagine the deaths in your play-throughs will effect how ME3 turns out? I sincerely hope they aren't just scrubbed out of the script, I'd like to see new storylines and side-quests revolving around the fact that they didn't survive, since we obviously can't have the storylines and side-quests that involve them being alive.

My canon playthrough:

Wrex - Shepard tried to talk down Wrex on Virmire, but before they could come to an accord, he was shot and killed by Ashley. Angered at the betrayel (and a bit xenophobic towards Krogan in general), Shepard left his body to rot. In ME2, we see a new Urdnot, Wreav, took his place, and is far less open to new ideas about how to run things than Wrex was - making me feel that the Krogan will become more difficult to rely on in ME3 then if Wrex had been left in charge. Unless Shepard can headbutt his way to a leadership position amongst the Krogan.

Kaidan - As one of the characters who "has" to die, I don't see too much revolving around his departure, aside from perhaps a few lines about him between Shepard and Ashley.

Legion - In my canon playthrough, Shepard gladly gave Legion over to Cerberus for research purposes, sure as hell not wanting to keep a geth on his ship any longer than necessary. I'm sure this will prove to have adverse affects when trying to deal with the Geth on the Quarian homeworld.

Garrus - Garrus was sent through the ventilation shaft in the Collector Base, and ended up with a rocket to the face. Shepard and Garrus were very close - renegade brothers in arms - and I imagine this death will weigh heavily on Shepard's mind. Particularly when we go to the Turian homeworld; while Garrus may not have been too noteworthy politically, Lair of the Shadow Broker seems to hint that Garrus has an ailing mother and several exasperated siblings waiting for him back up. Having to drop by and deliver the news that Garrus was killed in action is a scene I really hope we get to see, and that it's done poignantly.

Miranda - Miranda was the other death at the Collector Base, killed right before the end. While she and Shepard never got along, I like to think she did something heroic before the end - probably something along the lines of stopping Jacob from getting himself killed, and ushering everyone else onto the Normandy while she held the line.  In ME3 we know that Cerberus is an antagonist - which already would've been a given for me, since my Shepard blew up the Collector base and not-so-subtly told the Illusive Man where he could shove it. I'm not sure which side Miranda would've landed on, but that may prove to be a hurtle if there's the possibility of reasoning with Cerberus.

So, what about you guys? How do you think character deaths from ME1&2 will be dealt with and integrated into the story in ME3?

[Arokel]

Kaidan: obviously died on Virmire. my Shep is in love with Ash and thus couldn't leave her. He still feels alot of guilt over Kaidans death. I would agree with you OP on how it will affect the story

Jack: killed by seeker swarms

Samara: died saving Normandy's crew.

Zaeed: died just before baby reaper.

If I had to guess they may have an impact on the missions they were supposed to be a part of. It may mean that their mission will be harder or have a worse ending.

edit: YOU GOT GARRUS KILLED! I HOPE YOUR SHEPARD DIES* IN A FIRE!






*I dont want the real you to die of course

Modifié par Arokel, 19 septembre 2011 - 07:07 .

[FoxHound109]

Ashley: Died in Virmire.

Jack: Lost her loyalty because I didn't have enough Paragon points. Chose Miranda instead in the argument. She died on the battlefield.

[BatmanPWNS]

Kaidan- Sadly nuked

Wrex- I like my Shep to have some faults in his life and being unable to convince Wrex is one of them

Jacob- Because I always kill the main male Human

Kasumi- Gotta keep the graybox a secret.

Zaeed- Badass characters with the best humour usually have to die.

Thane- I only killed him so my Shep could actually feel sorry for someones death though I don't know how this will effect Kolyat.

Modifié par BatmanPWNS, 19 septembre 2011 - 07:24 .

[Siansonea]

I have lots of playthroughs with lots of variation in who lives/dies. I have my über-Paragon playthrough, where everyone who can survive, does survive, with Kaidan as Virmire Survivor, and I have my psycho Renegade playthrough where everyone who can die, does die, with only Morinth and Kasumi surviving the Suicide Mission. And I have four other playthroughs with various characters dead at the end. I want to see as many different permutations in ME3 as possible, so I made sure to have lots of different saves.

[Xilizhra]

I have only one corpse in my wake, and I'm not even sure who it is. I plan on keeping the body count at that level too.

[ladyvader]

I've been killing off people in my play through lately just to see what the difference is. NOT because I don't like certain characters.

I think losing Tali and Mordin which I did in my first play through will be the most problematic. I don't see losing anyone else as that big of an issue except for maybe Miranda. BW seems quite mum on her and Jacob, because they don't want to spoil anything.

Modifié par ladyvader, 19 septembre 2011 - 07:27 .

[Siansonea]

ladyvader wrote...

I've been killing off people in my play through lately just to see what the difference is. NOT because I don't like certain characters.

I think losing Tali and Mordin which I did in my first play through will be the most problematic. I don't see losing anyone else as that big of an issue except for maybe Miranda. BW seems quite mum on her and Jacob, because they don't want to spoil anything.

I tailored my saves so that the deaths "make sense" from a story perspective. In my Sentinel playthrough, I made sure most of the biotic characters survived, while in my Engineer playthrough, I went for the tech types mostly. My ladies' man Infiltrator saved most of the females, and my psycho Soldier killed everybody but the thief and the serial killer.

[Eyeshield21]

All of my squad and crew survived, but if it happened, Jack should die. she is crazy as hell. Just my opinion though.

Modifié par Eyeshield21, 19 septembre 2011 - 07:36 .

[ammyretsu]

In my most recent playthrough and the only I want to import first, only Jack isn't coming back. She died at some point during the SM (tripped over or something idk).

Also Ashley on Virmire. Was romancing Kaidan so clearly thought with my loins and left her to die.

[RGC_Ines]

For me it will be:
-Ashley and I doubt there will be a big difference between ME3 with her or Kaidan
-Jacob-thanks to SM...I killed him becouse I didn't want to have Cerberus agent behind my back. Effect? Probably he will not have a chance to betray Shepard in ME3
-Miranda-this same like Jacob.
And that's all...I got everyone but Cerberus Agents alive at the end of ME2.

[Zakatak757]

Kaidan died.

And...

Uh...

Ya, just Kaidan. My other 15 squadmates are just fine. 13 of which are Loyal.

Get on my level.

[Eyeshield21]

Zakatak757 wrote...

Kaidan died.

And...

Uh...

Ya, just Kaidan. My other 15 squadmates are just fine. 13 of which are Loyal.

Get on my level.

me and you both buddy.
All of my squad with the exception of Kaidon are alive and surviving for ME3!

[Fault Girl]

I have only lost Ashley. If you look at my picture you can guess why.

Wasn't done half-heartingly. Ashley was my FemShep's best friend.

[Eyeshield21]

ZombieGeisha wrote...

I have only lost Ashley. If you look at my picture you can guess why.

Wasn't done half-heartingly. Ashley was my FemShep's best friend.

I let Ashley die in another playthrough to see what would happen in ME3( I romanced Liara in that one to keep the love alive in the LotSB DLC.).

[Tenauri]

Preston Violent wrote...

Kaidan didn't have to die at all. He is a very useful biotic. Ashley was meant to, she was just a light version of Wrex (skill wise) and in ME 3, we'll have Vega, then that vigilante chick...one more soldier (Ashley) will be plain excessive 

I meant "has" as in, either he or Ashley has to. It's not like in ME2 where every character could be alive and well - the game canon knows that either Kaidan or Ashley is dead, so there situation in ME3 is a bit different from anyone who might've died in 2.

Preston Violent wrote...

Gave Legion to TIM? Helped your future enemy some more?

killed off Garrus?

You're very mistaken if you think BW will replace them with equally developed and interesting characters. They simply won't bother that much.

Not even close to anything I ever thought or said. All I'm hoping for is acknowledgment of their deaths in the story rather than a complete scrubbing of their existance. For example, say there is a storyline on the Turian homewolrd where we go and meet Garrus' family. My hope is that the storyline is still in there, only involving having to tell them about Garrus' death, with totally different dialogue options and conversations based on this fact, as opposed to the storyline being taken out altogether. At no point did I express interest in a 'new' companion to replace Garrus for me.

Preston Violent wrote...
So your canon playthrough ain't good enough! Start with Virmire  

Not the point of this thread at all. Besides, I would never go for a 'perfect' playthrough - it'd be a snooze-fest! I try not to treat this as just any other game where I need to get the high score. I'm crafting the most believable and compelling story possible, and that means Shepard makes mistakes and good people die.

[sesheta255]

Ashley died in all of my ME1 playthroughs - don't think this will make a difference in ME3
Garrus - killed in the SM in one playthrough, though I doubt it will affect much
Tali - killed in the SM in one playthrough
Samara - killed in the SM in one playthrough

It could cause some problems in terms of co-operation/trust with the quarians and asari in particular.

[raziel1980]

Eyeshield21 wrote...

Zakatak757 wrote...

Kaidan died.

And...

Uh...

Ya, just Kaidan. My other 15 squadmates are just fine. 13 of which are Loyal.

Get on my level.

me and you both buddy.
All of my squad with the exception of Kaidon are alive and surviving for ME3!

Same as well...even on my femshep files( one of which actually romances/flirts with Kaiden in ME 1), Kaiden gets nuked on Virmire...mostly because they all found him to be extremely boring not their type of characters...besides Ash proved more useful in my playthroughs n style of play....

[Ravensword]

My Shepards are too cool to let anyone die when they don't have to.

[happy_daiz]

Ashley has the honor of being the only squadmate of any of my femSheps to bite the bullet, throughout ME1 and ME2.

There was no way I'd let Kaidan take that one for the team.
That sounded naughty.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 21 septembre 2011 - 04:37 .

[Quole]

You killed Garrus? Sold Legion? You bastard!

Anyway, I lost Ashley and Wrex. No idea how Ashley dying will affect ME3, but I am curious how the krogan will change in ME3 without Wrex. In ME2, I lost no one because Im not bad.

Modifié par Quole, 21 septembre 2011 - 05:34 .

[SilentK]

I'm still working through with my FemShep's but plan to have every crewmember dead for one FemShep just so I can see the changes that comes from this in ME3. Hmm... and one in which Tali and Garrus are dead, one in which Jacob and Miranda are dead. And I'll most likely have a few FemSheps with the entire crew alive and well. It's fun when you can change it up a little. Play one round of ME3 with a Shepard who lost many people and the next time I play it perhaps the one who kept everyone alive. Aim to have every PT a bit different from the previous ones in regards to LI, faithful or cheating, people alive or dead, Udina and Andersson and so forth. Hoping that this will make it possible to see something new in every PT of ME3

[Labrev]

Troll Shepard career =

Alive:

Ashley (human nationalist)
Liara (... plot armor)
Miranda (did not help move her sister to safety)
Samara (will have to fight her if they meet again)
Morinth (on the loose)
Jacob (flirted, turned down before SM, messy break-up after SM)


Should be fun!