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[ReaperRain]

I'm not sure if this is where I stick this, but 'General' seemed the most appropriate. Spoilers ahoy.

Okay so it's way early for this, but let's talk about Dragon Age 3 (if it gets made, I assume it will.) I think I read somewhere that it'll be set in Orlais, which is where we know Bodahn and Sandal are heading. I'm pretty sure Morrigan is going to make an appearance, and Cassandra Pentaghast will probably show up as well. But is there anyone else you'd like to see, as a cameo or a companion?

Personally I want to see Orsino and Meredith make an appearance. I know about the endgame events, but if Anders can miraculously survive the bleaker epilogues of Awakenings, it's not too far-fetched to say Orsino and Meredith weren't permanently killed. Maybe they instead went back to being 'normal' (as normal as those two can get anyway) and then promptly marched over to Orlais to try and persuade the Divine to their respective sides.

...I know, I know. It's about as likely as hell freezing over or Fenris frolicking. But c'mon, they'd be AWESOME party members. It'd give players the chance to get to know them better, plus it could be a redemption for... well, you know. Endgame. It felt like there was much more to them than First Enchanter and Knight Commander, but we never really got to see it.

Anyway, enough of my unfounded hope. Would you like to see Orsino and Meredith return? And/or anyone else from the other games?

Modifié par ReaperRain, 19 septembre 2011 - 09:05 .

[chunkyman]

Teh Warden!!!1!!1!!1

[TheReignmaker]

Given that the direction of this series probably isn't going to return to its roots (Baldur's Gate), I'd actually prefer that former characters not to be used as party members again. References are cool and maybe a couple cameos, but I think DA3 needs to be a standalone experience.

Here's the scenario I dream of: God-Child = your character

Modifié par TheReignmaker, 19 septembre 2011 - 08:26 .

[ReaperRain]

Problem is though, what if the Warden sacrificed himself, or someone else? It's as legitimate an ending as the Morrigan one.

[TheReignmaker]

ReaperRain wrote...

Problem is though, what if the Warden sacrificed himself, or someone else? It's as legitimate an ending as the Morrigan one.

Who's to say who the father is?

[Brockololly]

TheReignmaker wrote...

Given that the direction of this series probably isn't going to return to its roots (Baldur's Gate), I'd actually prefer that former characters not to be used as party members again. References are cool and maybe a couple cameos, but I think DA3 needs to be a standalone experience.

I agree that so long as BioWare is intent on not bringing back existing PCs for sequels, they need to cut the **** with the terribly hokey cliffhanger/ "The Hero vanished!" endings Provide closure for the relevent storylines involving that PC in the game they're in, or provide for a Throne of Bhaal style expansion where it can be done justice and wrapped up before moving on.

If they're just going to have a new PC every game, I don't want cameos shoved in which end up crapping all over the choices made by prior PCs. Some references are fine, but if you're going to make a new game with new PC, leave it at that and have all new companions too.

ReaperRain wrote...

Problem is though, what if the Warden
sacrificed himself, or someone else? It's as legitimate an ending as the
Morrigan one.

Here is the issue- according to Laidlaw, player agency is supposedly one of their big things they're working on going forward. Well, the whole DR choice is one of the biggest moments of player agency in all of DA- either doing the US or creating the OGB.

For those that killed themselves off, you have the Orlesian Warden and you've seen the consequences. Yet, for anyone that took up Morrigan and created the OGB, we haven't seen jack **** from that yet. And thats a totally player driven choice- one which I'm going to guess a good number of people chose. Same goes with going through the Eluvian with Morrigan. Why offer these choices which are presented as super important in the moment, only to never have any consequences from them or to have them barely mentioned in the future or to never have them concluded by the PC who has the most emotional connection to them? Thats just lackluster storytelling IMO.

The OGB choice in particular- it would be like ending Game of Thrones where Dany has the dragon eggs hatch, only to never see them again or to never get another POV chapter with Dany- wasted potential. The OGB in particular is an interesting plot point for tons of reasons and it just provides for more future story potential than comitting suicide does. In that moment where the Warden can choose to do the DR, its a moment of player agency where the setup of ending the Blight without dying and creating a child with the soul of an Old God is presented as a game changing event. Something which would not return the world to the status quo.

So if BioWare is intent on respecting player agency in DA, then they can start by reacting to the DR choice in a way which not only shows the consequences first hand, but also keeps it emotionally engaging by keeping the people who made that choice (The Warden & Morrigan) involved.

[ReaperRain]

TheReignmaker wrote...

ReaperRain wrote...

Problem is though, what if the Warden sacrificed himself, or someone else? It's as legitimate an ending as the Morrigan one.

Who's to say who the father is?

But the sacrifice still dies. Though there's alwas the chance she found another Warden to father the child and killed off with the sacrifice off herself. It's not impossible, if a little far-fetched.

I'm quite sure Morrigan will turn up (what with the DA:O epilogue), and the child seems too good of a plot device to throw away. I just wonder how they'll make it work.

Modifié par ReaperRain, 19 septembre 2011 - 10:50 .

[Freckle Face]

Brockololly wrote...

In that moment where the Warden can choose to do the DR, its a moment of player agency where the setup of ending the Blight without dying and creating a child with the soul of an Old God is presented as a game changing event. Something which would not return the world to the status quo.

This. There was also a lot of foreshadowing in Alistair's dialogue when asked to make that choice, and in the Warden's choices too ("Nothing comes without a price..." damn that could be DA3's tagline).


Anyhoo, I would love to see Alistair, Morrigan, her god-baby (not as the PC but I would LOVE him to be a party member), Flemeth (what happened to her after she met Hawke, and after she was killed by my Warden?), and FIONA (from the novels)!!! If we're going to be in Orlais, we might as well see this important character, or at least hear about her!!

[Morty Smith]

Mr. tactical Overview, he was the most helpful of them all. Poor fellow was lost due to an import bug.

[tanarri23]

Tevinter.

Also Flemeth, the Architect and many new and varied environments that don't repeat themselves. But most of all Tevinter.

[Iberius]

Morrigan, Lelianna, Oghren, the Architect, Flemeth, Isabella, and many more that probably won't show up

[Tainan7509]

I want to see the Maker and have a face to face conversation.

[whykikyouwhy]

Who do I want to see? 

Other than myself...*points to avatar*...the person who has been making all of those insidious cheese wheels. I know the Cheese Man is out there, somewhere!

[element eater]

SIgrun

[jlb524]

Stuff that won't be in the game so this post is futile.

[Lenimph]

 Orlesian Noble women fighting boredom.  

[Zjarcal]

Lenimph wrote...

 Orlesian Noble women fighting boredom.  

Being taught by Leliana of course. 

[Hagspawn]

Flemeth, Morri, The Architect and Varric to tell us all about em.

[Tommy6860]

Brockololly wrote...

Here is the issue- according to Laidlaw, player agency is supposedly one of their big things they're working on going forward. Well, the whole DR choice is one of the biggest moments of player agency in all of DA- either doing the US or creating the OGB.

For those that killed themselves off, you have the Orlesian Warden and you've seen the consequences. Yet, for anyone that took up Morrigan and created the OGB, we haven't seen jack **** from that yet. And thats a totally player driven choice- one which I'm going to guess a good number of people chose. Same goes with going through the Eluvian with Morrigan. Why offer these choices which are presented as super important in the moment, only to never have any consequences from them or to have them barely mentioned in the future or to never have them concluded by the PC who has the most emotional connection to them? Thats just lackluster storytelling IMO.

The OGB choice in particular- it would be like ending Game of Thrones where Dany has the dragon eggs hatch, only to never see them again or to never get another POV chapter with Dany- wasted potential. The OGB in particular is an interesting plot point for tons of reasons and it just provides for more future story potential than comitting suicide does. In that moment where the Warden can choose to do the DR, its a moment of player agency where the setup of ending the Blight without dying and creating a child with the soul of an Old God is presented as a game changing event. Something which would not return the world to the status quo.

So if BioWare is intent on respecting player agency in DA, then they can start by reacting to the DR choice in a way which not only shows the consequences first hand, but also keeps it emotionally engaging by keeping the people who made that choice (The Warden & Morrigan) involved.

This^ so much, otherwise, create a whole new IP and forget the DA series.

[ydaraishy]

Brockololly wrote...
So if BioWare is intent on respecting player agency in DA, then they can start by reacting to the DR choice in a way which not only shows the consequences first hand, but also keeps it emotionally engaging by keeping the people who made that choice (The Warden & Morrigan) involved.

My Warden got Alistair to off the archdemon and refused Morrigan. So where does that fit in?

[Alicia Keys]

I want to see Lelianna, Morrigan, Shale, Zevren, and Isabella in Dragon Age 3. They were the best characters in the series!!!

I love the Dragon Age series just like the Mass Effect series I hope we get sequel after sequel of both series. I don't want Mass Effect to end cuz I know it's a trilogy so it better continue. they didn't say that Dragon Age series was a trilogy though so I hope that continues until the day vidoegames die out.

[DoNotIngest]

Merrill... Hawke... Varric... Every companion from DA2...


Yep, that's about it, in that order. Not that it will happen. Which will mean I probably won't get DA3 =/

[mesmerizedish]

As many gays and lesbians as possible. A trans character that isn't played for laughs like Serendipity.

[Willybot]

Our ME crew Planet Scanning

Modifié par Willybot, 20 septembre 2011 - 01:53 .