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[Locutus_of_BORG]

:tempted to run a PT to see how many squeezes Shep can snag for ME3:

Modifié par Locutus_of_BORG, 19 janvier 2012 - 04:35 .

[Random citizen]

LaurenShepard-N7 wrote...

Juggling multiple LIs and having it blow up in a fight between your squad mates could be fun, but having an entire alien harem for a squad would be kind of ridiculous and best left for crazy anime dating sims...

Missing the point, but dont worry, its not easy reading through all the relevant posts in this thread.
In short: Its about how to reconcile feelings and solve conflicts that might arise from jealousy and possessive behaviour, as well as acknowledging how people really feel and taking that into consideration. To communicate the value of creating relations that suits those involved instead of using a predefined model- within the framework of the narrative of the ME story and setting.

Its not about having a harem, as addressing the needs of many tend to be harder, not only in real life, but it would be overly complex writing if quality is a goal

Modifié par Random citizen, 22 janvier 2012 - 02:50 .

[ThePuppetWithNoStrings]

Only *if* it matches the character's personality. The only person I can think of who wouldn't mind a polyamorous relationship would be Liara, but I get the feeling she's past that stage and would just want Shepard to herself now. She might be open to threesomes but an actual three/four-way relationship? Can't see it happening. The rest of the LIs - Ashley, Kaidan, Miranda, Jacob, Garrus, Tali, Thane and Jack, all make it clear that they want to be the only ones with Shepard's attention and will not share. And I get the feeling James, Steve and Samantha are the same way. So since none of the LIs would be open to such a thing, I don't really think it's a good idea to include it.

[Random citizen]

ThePuppetWithNoStrings wrote...

Only *if* it matches the character's personality. The only person I can think of who wouldn't mind a polyamorous relationship would be Liara, but I get the feeling she's past that stage and would just want Shepard to herself now. She might be open to threesomes but an actual three/four-way relationship? Can't see it happening. The rest of the LIs - Ashley, Kaidan, Miranda, Jacob, Garrus, Tali, Thane and Jack, all make it clear that they want to be the only ones with Shepard's attention and will not share. And I get the feeling James, Steve and Samantha are the same way. So since none of the LIs would be open to such a thing, I don't really think it's a good idea to include it.

Almost everyone starts out with a possessive attitude/personality because its easiest so. We automatically hope that we are the only one that the one we love loves, but sometimes its simply not true.

We have a possessive instinct that is nurtured by culture. Some people would logically have easier to change given both circumstances (either you share or you miss out on what is possibly the love of your life) and culture.
(I am speaking of personal experience here).

The ones I dont see as impossible is Ash and Kaiden, because they are both so conservative and "stuck in their values". Miranda, jacob and Garrus could probably rationalize it and get used to it if it was handles right  and they did not dislike the other person. Tali comes from a culture where they have learned to think about the need of others and given how much she seem to like male Shep, I dont think there should be much of a problem unless it, as above, involves someone she dislikes. Thane is probably relieving good times with his wife every day, so I dont think he might understand, Jack might be hard or impossible though, given her bad three way experiences. I know nothing about James, Steve and Samantha. I recommend reading the thread. 

Liara is of course the easiest "other woman" Garrus is possibly the easiest "other man".

Modifié par Random citizen, 22 janvier 2012 - 03:34 .

[Peer of the Empire]

LaurenShepard-N7 wrote...

Juggling multiple LIs and having it blow up in a fight between your squad mates could be fun, but having an entire alien harem for a squad would be kind of ridiculous and best left for crazy anime dating sims...

Shephard is the savior of the galaxy and will have no problem handling such and making it look good.

[Ice Cold J]

50/50

On the one hand, it would TOTALLY solve my Tali/Liara problem.

But, I wouldn't do it in real life so...
...deal breaker?

My renegade Shep would be ALL over THAT, though.



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[Random citizen]

Ice Cold J wrote...

50/50

On the one hand, it would TOTALLY solve my Tali/Liara problem.

But, I wouldn't do it in real life so...
...deal breaker?

My renegade Shep would be ALL over THAT, though.



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Ah, yes, back to the orgy...

Deal breaker? I dunno. What I do know is that is has nothing to do with paragon/renegade.

[seirhart]

I most definitly would support multiple girlfriends or wifes for Alexander Shepard my cannon shepard. I'd have one girl for each day of the week. The girls would be for me

1.) liara
2.) Tali
3.) Kasumi
4.) Miranda
5.) Ashley
6.) Mrs Parsinni
7.) Jack

[Random citizen]

seirhart wrote...

I most definitly would support multiple girlfriends or wifes for Alexander Shepard my cannon shepard. I'd have one girl for each day of the week. The girls would be for me

1.) liara
2.) Tali
3.) Kasumi
4.) Miranda
5.) Ashley
6.) Mrs Parsinni
7.) Jack

That would both be extremely hard to successfully juggle rpg-wise and write dialogue for IMHO. (managing and sorting out jealousy, dialogue referring to other partners of your LI and so on.

Two different LIs (three  might be too complex) would possibly be realistic if the writers where good, especially if th LIs are themselves also exploring others relations (like Feron for Liara and Kal'Reegar for Tali etc).

[android654]

Random citizen wrote...

seirhart wrote...

I most definitly would support multiple girlfriends or wifes for Alexander Shepard my cannon shepard. I'd have one girl for each day of the week. The girls would be for me

1.) liara
2.) Tali
3.) Kasumi
4.) Miranda
5.) Ashley
6.) Mrs Parsinni
7.) Jack

That would both be extremely hard to successfully juggle rpg-wise and write dialogue for IMHO. (managing and sorting out jealousy, dialogue referring to other partners of your LI and so on.

Two different LIs (three  might be too complex) would possibly be realistic if the writers where good, especially if th LIs are themselves also exploring others relations (like Feron for Liara and Kal'Reegar for Tali etc).

That's why I think so many people are against it. People are jealous and greedy by nature. Suggest ot someone that they can have copious amounts of sex with two people but theose two people each have two other sex partners of their own and they can't cope with such a fair proposition. A lot of people are all or nothing, and can't take a relationship with seemingly new conditiions. Every relationship has conditions, the difference is what their jealousy and need will allow them to cope with.

[Eclipse_9990]

Nah. I'm strictly monogamous, and I tend to subconsciously look down on people who aren't. I know I have zero right to dictate what others do in their lives, especially in that of a game, and I admit that stance might make some people see me as a narrow minded, and judgmental ****.

But to be quite frank. I OK with that.

[Random citizen]

android654 wrote...

Random citizen wrote...

seirhart wrote...

I most definitly would support multiple girlfriends or wifes for Alexander Shepard my cannon shepard. I'd have one girl for each day of the week. The girls would be for me

1.) liara
2.) Tali
3.) Kasumi
4.) Miranda
5.) Ashley
6.) Mrs Parsinni
7.) Jack

That would both be extremely hard to successfully juggle rpg-wise and write dialogue for IMHO. (managing and sorting out jealousy, dialogue referring to other partners of your LI and so on.

Two different LIs (three  might be too complex) would possibly be realistic if the writers where good, especially if th LIs are themselves also exploring others relations (like Feron for Liara and Kal'Reegar for Tali etc).

That's why I think so many people are against it. People are jealous and greedy by nature. Suggest ot someone that they can have copious amounts of sex with two people but theose two people each have two other sex partners of their own and they can't cope with such a fair proposition. A lot of people are all or nothing, and can't take a relationship with seemingly new conditiions. Every relationship has conditions, the difference is what their jealousy and need will allow them to cope with.

Of course we all have certain disposition that comes from evolutionary factors and environmental conditioning.
While not all might be capable with such "fair" arrangements, and those who did needed time to "break out of the monogamous mold" they have been brought up in, my experience that less people then one might think are exclusivly bound to this "all or nothing" mentality - if things are handled right. Some people are simply to ontresting to miss out on, even if it means sharing. Settling for substitutes to fill the void of what one has missed will rarely make one happy.

[Random citizen]

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

Nah. I'm strictly monogamous, and I tend to subconsciously look down on people who aren't. I know I have zero right to dictate what others do in their lives, especially in that of a game, and I admit that stance might make some people see me as a narrow minded, and judgmental ****.

But to be quite frank. I OK with that.

I understand. Everyone has their comfort zone. Some people are no doubt better of as monogamous or following a certain established practice when it comes to relationships.

[android654]

Random citizen wrote...

android654 wrote...

Random citizen wrote...

seirhart wrote...

I most definitly would support multiple girlfriends or wifes for Alexander Shepard my cannon shepard. I'd have one girl for each day of the week. The girls would be for me

1.) liara
2.) Tali
3.) Kasumi
4.) Miranda
5.) Ashley
6.) Mrs Parsinni
7.) Jack

That would both be extremely hard to successfully juggle rpg-wise and write dialogue for IMHO. (managing and sorting out jealousy, dialogue referring to other partners of your LI and so on.

Two different LIs (three  might be too complex) would possibly be realistic if the writers where good, especially if th LIs are themselves also exploring others relations (like Feron for Liara and Kal'Reegar for Tali etc).

That's why I think so many people are against it. People are jealous and greedy by nature. Suggest ot someone that they can have copious amounts of sex with two people but theose two people each have two other sex partners of their own and they can't cope with such a fair proposition. A lot of people are all or nothing, and can't take a relationship with seemingly new conditiions. Every relationship has conditions, the difference is what their jealousy and need will allow them to cope with.

Of course we all have certain disposition that comes from evolutionary factors and environmental conditioning.
While not all might be capable with such "fair" arrangements, and those who did needed time to "break out of the monogamous mold" they have been brought up in, my experience that less people then one might think are exclusivly bound to this "all or nothing" mentality - if things are handled right. Some people are simply to ontresting to miss out on, even if it means sharing. Settling for substitutes to fill the void of what one has missed will rarely make one happy.

That could very well be the reason why so many relationships aren't what many people expect them to be or what they were in the beginning. Few people have the ability to articulate what they want or to know what they need.

[Sashimi_taco]

In game? For sure. I will keep a harem of all my LIs and visit them when I am in need of hot loving.

Whats that Kaiden? You aren't that type of guy? Well you are now! Don't disobey your superior.

Oh Thane thats really sad about your dead wife but you know she's all like... dead and stuff. I'm alive! Lets do it.

Hey Garrus let--- Oh yeah i was about to say lets do it, ok cool. *Now we are doing "it"*

[Phate Phoenix]

In a perfect world with a perfect game, yes, I would support such an option. That said, I have such severe doubts about the quality of a poly-romance that I'd really be wary about giving it the go-ahead. The amount of time and resources that would have to go into it, to make sure that it make sense, and is emotionally fulfilling to the player (and not just a threesome disguised as a poly-relationship), makes it almost infeasable at this time and for this game. You'd have to script, voice, and animate each LI for a friendship, a mono-relationship, and then for a poly-relationship, and, within the poly-relationship, how the LI's involved react to one another. If Mass Effect were less about the space war and more about the inner lives of the people Shepard works with (becoming an actual dating simulation, or closer to it) then I would have more faith.

It's the same reason why I'll never hold my breath to see an actual asexual romance in a video game. Asexuality and Polyamory are so very different from Monoamory that they require different build-ups, different conversations, and different reactions. Adding same-sex relationships to the game was easy in comparison. XD I just don't think either could be done well in ME3. Not to say they can never be done well in a game, but just not in this one.

[The Love Runner]

capn233 wrote...

When they said the Normandy was a swingin' ship, I didn't realize that was what they were talking about.

Oh my god, this statement reminded me of the Shag Carpet Thread. Oh, man...good times.

On-Topic: I DO NOT support this, because, like others have said, it wouldn't portray real consequences

Modifié par Galactic Runner, 28 janvier 2012 - 05:56 .

[Bundalings]

I have no interest in a a Shepard harem, but if they decided to include it it wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. I'd just ignore it completely.

[HolyJellyfish]

Since I consider monogamous relationships to be mostly a fantasy ideal, I think I would prefer that fantasy ideal to stay in the sci fi fictional

game.

I play these games to escape reality. And what better escape than to watch the perfect monogamous relationship unfold with with humans, four aliens, and a crush on mordin

[Xilizhra]

SkyeHawk89 wrote...

No just no.

That is wrong, I hate hate hate hate people like that. It too will hurt one or the other. People that do it in RL what in hell is wrong with you?

You need help, period.

Er, isn't it their own choice, given that everyone is consenting?

[Volus Warlord]

Xilizhra wrote...

SkyeHawk89 wrote...

No just no.

That is wrong, I hate hate hate hate people like that. It too will hurt one or the other. People that do it in RL what in hell is wrong with you?

You need help, period.

Er, isn't it their own choice, given that everyone is consenting?

No.

[Doctalen]

Xilizhra wrote...

SkyeHawk89 wrote...

No just no.

That is wrong, I hate hate hate hate people like that. It too will hurt one or the other. People that do it in RL what in hell is wrong with you?

You need help, period.

Er, isn't it their own choice, given that everyone is consenting?

Some people can't be tolerate of others. Personally I don't think it would make sense In-game but in real life IDGAF what people do with their private lives as long as everyone is Ok that is involved 

Modifié par Doctalen, 28 janvier 2012 - 02:47 .

[D.Kain]

SkyeHawk89 wrote...

No just no.

That is wrong, I hate hate hate hate people like that. It too will hurt one or the other. People that do it in RL what in hell is wrong with you?

You need help, period.

There is nothing wrong with people doing this in real life, it is a part of nature that drives people to breed more. Though I like you have come far away from nature, and would never have such things in my own life, it is still natural. 

[Volus Warlord]

D.Kain wrote...

SkyeHawk89 wrote...

No just no.

That is wrong, I hate hate hate hate people like that. It too will hurt one or the other. People that do it in RL what in hell is wrong with you?

You need help, period.

There is nothing wrong with people doing this in real life, it is a part of nature that drives people to breed more. Though I like you have come far away from nature, and would never have such things in my own life, it is still natural. 

In some situations it's more "cultural.."

Some societies in the past have had a rather lopsided male:female population..