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[ForteSJGR]

I know Liara's up for it...maybe a volus...Either or I'd probably do it for the lolz then revert to an earlier save.

[Xilizhra]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Random citizen wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

They could fix it... but then it would be ME3: Romance Simulator (With Reapers Somewhere).

Romance can only be so much of a small part of the ME experience, and quality requires depth and breadth. It's hard, but possible, to do so in voluntary bi-amorous relationships. Once you get bigger, however, much of the dynamic has to be scripted from the start, taking away from player choice, or else must be much, much bigger.

Well I am quite aware that it the complexity could get out of hand if the relation involved more then three individuals.
Three might be doable without it getting out of hand or have quality suffering though. You know, sometimes (quite often when it comes to storytelling) craftmenship is best (IMHO) seen when the craftsman works with challanging material.

About the only characters who would work well as a third-wing would be Liara and/or Kelly. In part because they're about the only character to ever express any interest in multiple species, and because most of the other characters have 'marks' against them.

Jacob and Miranda are Cerberus, with Jacob not getting along with Thane in particular and Miranda not getting especially well with, almost everyone. Thane's dying, Tali's Shepard-centric and not just experimental in general, Kaiden and Ashley are mono-e-mono, Jack's trust only goes so far and is pretty 'exlcusive' in outlook, and Garrus...

Well, Garrus might go for a third.

So, Shepard, Garrus, Kelly, and Liara.

Garrus's harem, for fem!Sheps.

I'm only thinking of it as a possiblity for Liara/Kelly.

[Dean_the_Young]

D.Kain wrote...

Regarding what Dead_the_young said and a little of topic. Was there EVER a strong female romance option in ANY bioware game? You know a character that has everything fine and doesn't need fixing at all.

Ashley Williams.

Who would be my canon love interest, if canon Shepard didn't put the mission (protecting the nuke) above love.

[Xilizhra]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Regarding what Dead_the_young said and a little of topic. Was there EVER a strong female romance option in ANY bioware game? You know a character that has everything fine and doesn't need fixing at all.

Ashley Williams.

Who would be my canon love interest, if canon Shepard didn't put the mission (protecting the nuke) above love.

Wasn't there some line about how it couldn't be stopped once it was set?

[D.Kain]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Regarding what Dead_the_young said and a little of topic. Was there EVER a strong female romance option in ANY bioware game? You know a character that has everything fine and doesn't need fixing at all.

Ashley Williams.

Who would be my canon love interest, if canon Shepard didn't put the mission (protecting the nuke) above love.

Or it could just be Kaidan in that position, then protecting the nuke would be saving Ashley.

[Dean_the_Young]

Xilizhra wrote...

Wasn't there some line about how it couldn't be stopped once it was set?

Yes. And maybe it's true. Maybe it's not. The Geth are engineering experts, after all.

Will a responsible person risk the genophage been broken in the favor of the Reapers for a chance at booty-call?

[Dean_the_Young]

D.Kain wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Regarding what Dead_the_young said and a little of topic. Was there EVER a strong female romance option in ANY bioware game? You know a character that has everything fine and doesn't need fixing at all.

Ashley Williams.

Who would be my canon love interest, if canon Shepard didn't put the mission (protecting the nuke) above love.

Or it could just be Kaidan in that position, then protecting the nuke would be saving Ashley.

Kaiden was a technical expert, and I needed the best expertise to help ensure the jury-rigged device would work. I had no meta-gaming knoweldge there would be an either-or delimma.

[Xilizhra]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Wasn't there some line about how it couldn't be stopped once it was set?

Yes. And maybe it's true. Maybe it's not. The Geth are engineering experts, after all.

Will a responsible person risk the genophage been broken in the favor of the Reapers for a chance at booty-call?

It's a good thing that all of my booty is blue...

[Dean_the_Young]

Xilizhra wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Wasn't there some line about how it couldn't be stopped once it was set?

Yes. And maybe it's true. Maybe it's not. The Geth are engineering experts, after all.

Will a responsible person risk the genophage been broken in the favor of the Reapers for a chance at booty-call?

It's a good thing that all of my booty is blue...

Liara was also left behind on the Normandy, where I assumed she would help with the bomb setup.

[Dean_the_Young]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Why would Liara be helpful with the bomb setup? In terms of tech expertise, Tali and Garrus are the strong ones of the squad.

Because Tali and Garrus were coming with me to quickly cut a swarth through the Geth to relieve Williams, of course.

I needed their tech skill more than Alenko did, but Alenko could still have used Liara for tech-backup (and Wrex for defense backup). Liara was an accessory player to provide redundancy to Alenko.

Modifié par Dean_the_Young, 07 décembre 2011 - 06:45 .

[Dean_the_Young]

Thank you.

[DiebytheSword]

FoxHound109 wrote...

Short Answer: Yes.

Long Answer: Only If it fits with the personality of the characters in question.

This so much, but it would have to be extraordinary circumstances, an all three would need to love eachother, not just two people loving Shep and tolerating eachother.

[PauseforEffect]

[quote]Dean_the_Young wrote...

[/quote]About the only characters who would work well as a third-wing would be Liara and/or Kelly. In part because they're about the only character to ever express any interest in multiple species, and because most of the other characters have 'marks' against them.

Jacob and Miranda are Cerberus, with Jacob not getting along with Thane in particular and Miranda not getting especially well with, almost everyone. Thane's dying, Tali's Shepard-centric and not just experimental in general, Kaiden and Ashley are mono-e-mono, Jack's trust only goes so far and is pretty 'exlcusive' in outlook, and Garrus...

Well, Garrus might go for a third.

So, Shepard, Garrus, Kelly, and Liara.

Garrus's harem, for fem!Sheps.

[/quote]

That....was hilarious, Dean. I think that's the first time I've laughed so hard at a post of yours.

[Random citizen]

Xilizhra wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Random citizen wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

They could fix it... but then it would be ME3: Romance Simulator (With Reapers Somewhere).

Romance can only be so much of a small part of the ME experience, and quality requires depth and breadth. It's hard, but possible, to do so in voluntary bi-amorous relationships. Once you get bigger, however, much of the dynamic has to be scripted from the start, taking away from player choice, or else must be much, much bigger.

Well I am quite aware that it the complexity could get out of hand if the relation involved more then three individuals.
Three might be doable without it getting out of hand or have quality suffering though. You know, sometimes (quite often when it comes to storytelling) craftmenship is best (IMHO) seen when the craftsman works with challanging material.

About the only characters who would work well as a third-wing would be Liara and/or Kelly. In part because they're about the only character to ever express any interest in multiple species, and because most of the other characters have 'marks' against them.

Jacob and Miranda are Cerberus, with Jacob not getting along with Thane in particular and Miranda not getting especially well with, almost everyone. Thane's dying, Tali's Shepard-centric and not just experimental in general, Kaiden and Ashley are mono-e-mono, Jack's trust only goes so far and is pretty 'exlcusive' in outlook, and Garrus...

Well, Garrus might go for a third.

So, Shepard, Garrus, Kelly, and Liara.

Garrus's harem, for fem!Sheps.

I'm only thinking of it as a possiblity for Liara/Kelly.

If we are to treat or analyse these characters a people, we need to go a bit beyond whats on the surface.
Jacob and miranda are (ex) cerberus. As detailed out by Dean_the_Young they both have problems with other people, true. But they both have the ability to see the bigger picture. That being said, they would probably only have a possibility to "come around" if something dramatic happened.

If Thane is not dead, he is probably in a bad shape and its probably not the time to ask him what he thinks about seeing others.

True Tali is very "shepard-centric" and probably prefers to keep him for herself. But then there is the quarian mindset of thinking about the needs of everyone. She might possible come around if the conditons are right.
(think of it like it requires a value of 5 to have her accepting Shepard seeing Lira and 1 point is given for ME1 Liara romance, 1 point for completing her loylaty mission in ME2, 1 point for romancing her, 1 point for rekindeling the romance with Liara in LOTSB and 1 point must be Earned in ME3, all poly stuff could work like this for all characters )

Jack, (if she is in M3) well unless she has gotten a bit more stable she is probably not that interested in a poly-relationship or is she? Here the import from ME2 could play a central role. If you did not casual romance her in that unfortunate way (given the outcome) she might be up for some casual f-buddy stuff. In any way, Jack seems pretty much a character who can turn out as either positive or very negative to these types of arangements.

Kaiden and Ashley, yes they made it very clear they are very monogamous. It might feel a bit like betraying their characters to alter that unless its made in a very skillful way.

I agree that garrus comes across as open for suggestions if its handled right and its not some blue sun or eclipse thug . If it is someone he respects I can see it happening.

Legion, well he can calculate pi when Shepard is with someone else.

Joker is an exclusve guy. ..I think.

Modifié par Random citizen, 07 décembre 2011 - 07:08 .

[Dean_the_Young]

PrimalEden wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...
About the only characters who would work well as a third-wing would be Liara and/or Kelly. In part because they're about the only character to ever express any interest in multiple species, and because most of the other characters have 'marks' against them.

Jacob and Miranda are Cerberus, with Jacob not getting along with Thane in particular and Miranda not getting especially well with, almost everyone. Thane's dying, Tali's Shepard-centric and not just experimental in general, Kaiden and Ashley are mono-e-mono, Jack's trust only goes so far and is pretty 'exlcusive' in outlook, and Garrus...

Well, Garrus might go for a third.

So, Shepard, Garrus, Kelly, and Liara.

Garrus's harem, for fem!Sheps.

That....was hilarious, Dean. I think that's the first time I've laughed so hard at a post of yours.

Well, that's insulting.

[Random citizen]

DiebytheSword wrote...

FoxHound109 wrote...

Short Answer: Yes.

Long Answer: Only If it fits with the personality of the characters in question.

This
so much, but it would have to be extraordinary circumstances, an all
three would need to love eachother, not just two people loving Shep and
tolerating eachother.

To clearify, if you are refering to a scenario where "three persons are sharing bed"
We are not exclusivly talking about a three-way here. Not all poly-relationships are three ways ("orgies") even if the word might conjure up such images for a lot of people. As far as I know, such arrangements are in minority.
That being said, poly relationships are often regulated by clearly defined agreements on what is ok and what is not when it comes to seeing others (who, how etc)

Modifié par Random citizen, 07 décembre 2011 - 07:16 .

[Dean_the_Young]

In case the internet is immune to sarcasm, that was a joke.

[PauseforEffect]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

In case the internet is immune to sarcasm, that was a joke.

Nah, the internet's not immune to sarcasm, but people, like Sheldon Cooper, can be clueless when it hits.
....Did that last post seem like I was trying to be mean to you?

[Dean_the_Young]

I don't know any Sheldon Coopers, so no.

[Dean_the_Young]

Though if you meant the post before that, I fake-thought that it was insulting that you hadn't laughed at other posts of mine just as much.

[AdmiralCheez]

FoxHound109 wrote...

Short Answer: Yes.

Long Answer: Only If it fits with the personality of the characters in question.

Yeah, sure, why not?

I mean, hell, if nobody's got STDs or having a baby...

[DiebytheSword]

Random citizen wrote...

DiebytheSword wrote...

FoxHound109 wrote...

Short Answer: Yes.

Long Answer: Only If it fits with the personality of the characters in question.

This
so much, but it would have to be extraordinary circumstances, an all
three would need to love eachother, not just two people loving Shep and
tolerating eachother.

To clearify, if you are refering to a scenario where "three persons are sharing bed"
We are not exclusivly talking about a three-way here. Not all poly-relationships are three ways ("orgies") even if the word might conjure up such images for a lot of people. As far as I know, such arrangements are in minority.
That being said, poly relationships are often regulated by clearly defined agreements on what is ok and what is not when it comes to seeing others (who, how etc)

These things can only work in a situation as I described, I think Jealousy becomes too much of a factor for a situation where one person loves two and that love is not shared between the two objects of affection.  A tightrope walk indeed.